Quotes & Sayings


We, and creation itself, actualize the possibilities of the God who sustains the world, towards becoming in the world in a fuller, more deeper way. - R.E. Slater

There is urgency in coming to see the world as a web of interrelated processes of which we are integral parts, so that all of our choices and actions have [consequential effects upon] the world around us. - Process Metaphysician Alfred North Whitehead

Kurt Gödel's Incompleteness Theorem says (i) all closed systems are unprovable within themselves and, that (ii) all open systems are rightly understood as incomplete. - R.E. Slater

The most true thing about you is what God has said to you in Christ, "You are My Beloved." - Tripp Fuller

The God among us is the God who refuses to be God without us, so great is God's Love. - Tripp Fuller

According to some Christian outlooks we were made for another world. Perhaps, rather, we were made for this world to recreate, reclaim, redeem, and renew unto God's future aspiration by the power of His Spirit. - R.E. Slater

Our eschatological ethos is to love. To stand with those who are oppressed. To stand against those who are oppressing. It is that simple. Love is our only calling and Christian Hope. - R.E. Slater

Secularization theory has been massively falsified. We don't live in an age of secularity. We live in an age of explosive, pervasive religiosity... an age of religious pluralism. - Peter L. Berger

Exploring the edge of life and faith in a post-everything world. - Todd Littleton

I don't need another reason to believe, your love is all around for me to see. – Anon

Thou art our need; and in giving us more of thyself thou givest us all. - Khalil Gibran, Prayer XXIII

Be careful what you pretend to be. You become what you pretend to be. - Kurt Vonnegut

Religious beliefs, far from being primary, are often shaped and adjusted by our social goals. - Jim Forest

We become who we are by what we believe and can justify. - R.E. Slater

People, even more than things, need to be restored, renewed, revived, reclaimed, and redeemed; never throw out anyone. – Anon

Certainly, God's love has made fools of us all. - R.E. Slater

An apocalyptic Christian faith doesn't wait for Jesus to come, but for Jesus to become in our midst. - R.E. Slater

Christian belief in God begins with the cross and resurrection of Jesus, not with rational apologetics. - Eberhard Jüngel, Jürgen Moltmann

Our knowledge of God is through the 'I-Thou' encounter, not in finding God at the end of a syllogism or argument. There is a grave danger in any Christian treatment of God as an object. The God of Jesus Christ and Scripture is irreducibly subject and never made as an object, a force, a power, or a principle that can be manipulated. - Emil Brunner

“Ehyeh Asher Ehyeh” means "I will be that who I have yet to become." - God (Ex 3.14) or, conversely, “I AM who I AM Becoming.”

Our job is to love others without stopping to inquire whether or not they are worthy. - Thomas Merton

The church is God's world-changing social experiment of bringing unlikes and differents to the Eucharist/Communion table to share life with one another as a new kind of family. When this happens, we show to the world what love, justice, peace, reconciliation, and life together is designed by God to be. The church is God's show-and-tell for the world to see how God wants us to live as a blended, global, polypluralistic family united with one will, by one Lord, and baptized by one Spirit. – Anon

The cross that is planted at the heart of the history of the world cannot be uprooted. - Jacques Ellul

The Unity in whose loving presence the universe unfolds is inside each person as a call to welcome the stranger, protect animals and the earth, respect the dignity of each person, think new thoughts, and help bring about ecological civilizations. - John Cobb & Farhan A. Shah

If you board the wrong train it is of no use running along the corridors of the train in the other direction. - Dietrich Bonhoeffer

God's justice is restorative rather than punitive; His discipline is merciful rather than punishing; His power is made perfect in weakness; and His grace is sufficient for all. – Anon

Our little [biblical] systems have their day; they have their day and cease to be. They are but broken lights of Thee, and Thou, O God art more than they. - Alfred Lord Tennyson

We can’t control God; God is uncontrollable. God can’t control us; God’s love is uncontrolling! - Thomas Jay Oord

Life in perspective but always in process... as we are relational beings in process to one another, so life events are in process in relation to each event... as God is to Self, is to world, is to us... like Father, like sons and daughters, like events... life in process yet always in perspective. - R.E. Slater

To promote societal transition to sustainable ways of living and a global society founded on a shared ethical framework which includes respect and care for the community of life, ecological integrity, universal human rights, respect for diversity, economic justice, democracy, and a culture of peace. - The Earth Charter Mission Statement

Christian humanism is the belief that human freedom, individual conscience, and unencumbered rational inquiry are compatible with the practice of Christianity or even intrinsic in its doctrine. It represents a philosophical union of Christian faith and classical humanist principles. - Scott Postma

It is never wise to have a self-appointed religious institution determine a nation's moral code. The opportunities for moral compromise and failure are high; the moral codes and creeds assuredly racist, discriminatory, or subjectively and religiously defined; and the pronouncement of inhumanitarian political objectives quite predictable. - R.E. Slater

God's love must both center and define the Christian faith and all religious or human faiths seeking human and ecological balance in worlds of subtraction, harm, tragedy, and evil. - R.E. Slater

In Whitehead’s process ontology, we can think of the experiential ground of reality as an eternal pulse whereby what is objectively public in one moment becomes subjectively prehended in the next, and whereby the subject that emerges from its feelings then perishes into public expression as an object (or “superject”) aiming for novelty. There is a rhythm of Being between object and subject, not an ontological division. This rhythm powers the creative growth of the universe from one occasion of experience to the next. This is the Whiteheadian mantra: “The many become one and are increased by one.” - Matthew Segall

Without Love there is no Truth. And True Truth is always Loving. There is no dichotomy between these terms but only seamless integration. This is the premier centering focus of a Processual Theology of Love. - R.E. Slater

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Note: Generally I do not respond to commentary. I may read the comments but wish to reserve my time to write (or write from the comments I read). Instead, I'd like to see our community help one another and in the helping encourage and exhort each of us towards Christian love in Christ Jesus our Lord and Savior. - re slater

Sunday, September 14, 2025

Do we reflect God or does God reflect us? Questions on Human v Divine Nature


Do We Reflect God or
Does God Reflect Us?

Questions on Human v Divine Nature

by R.E. Slater & ChatGPT-5

In every reflection, we seek the face of God,
only to find that God’s face is also seeking ours.

- re slater & chatgpt


INTRODUCTION

Do we reflect God or does God reflect us?

When coming to Christian theology this simple statement seems to be the heart of our question.
  • Positively, if we reflect God (part a), then human dignity is grounded in God's goodness and love;
  • Negatively, if God reflects us (part b), then God becomes little more than a mirror of human instability: fickled, wrathful, unreliable,and changeable. God is too much like us at our lowest (or, perhaps worst) than God's Self.

Too Often We Make God Into Our Image

Such concerns are not unique to Christianity. In Greek mythology, these observations always seems to be asked of the gods. The gods often appear less transcendent and more human - embodying passions, rivalries, and inconsistencies rather than divine perfection. One could say they reflected the very flaws of the people who worshiped them.

Similarly, in the Semitic pantheon which shaped the Hebrew imagination, deities were often depicted in human terms as well. The biblical narrative shows this evolution: from many gods (polytheism) to one God (monotheism); from a covenantal God of faithfulness and blessing (Abrahamic covenant), to a God of wrath and judgment (Mosaic/Sinaitic covenant), to a God dwelling among his people through kingly and priestly structures (Davidic covenant), culminating in the promised New Covenant in Christ and his church.

Across the centuries of church history, this tension has endured. Theologies of God’s apparent changeability - sometimes merciful, sometimes wrathful; sometimes loving, sometimes punishing - have shaped Christian belief, worship, and behavior. Too often, God has been portrayed as a binary being governed by emotions rather than as a purposeful, consistent presence moving history toward its intended goal (teleology and eschatology).

It is precisely here that process theology, grounded in process philosophy, offers a vital corrective. By re-envisioning God not as variable in character but as relationally constant in love, persuasion, and creative aim, process thought keeps Christian faith “close to the knitting” - centering God’s nature in steadfast goodness while also affirming God’s dynamic involvement in the unfolding of history.


I. THE HUMAN NATURE

Human nature can be understood as the composite of qualities that characterize humanity:
  • Rationality and creativity (our capacity for reason, imagination, and design)

  • Relationality and empathy (our need for community, love, and meaning)

  • Moral ambiguity (our ability to choose good, but also to inflict harm)

  • Finitude and variability (our mortality, limitations, and shifting desires)

It is this mixture - noble aspiration and flawed imperfection - that frames the reflection between God and man. It is also why the human nature may be seen as morally ambiguous.

Calling the human nature morally ambiguous captures the tension:

We are capable of remarkable acts of love, generosity, and creativity, yet are just as capable of cruelty, indifference, and destruction.

That ambiguity is precisely what makes the question “Who reflects whom?” so provocative: 

Does the divine explain our nobility, or does our brokenness distort the image we project onto God?


The Christian Assertion

Within much of Christian tradition, human nature is described as fallen. Rooted in the Genesis story of Adam and Eve. The doctrine of the Fall asserts that humanity has turned away from God, resulting in a distortion of our will, desires, and actions. Rather than simply being morally mixed, this view emphasizes a corruption of the good creation, whereby sin infiltrates every aspect of human life.

Hence, the problem is not ambiguity but an inherited brokenness: our nature is bent away from God’s goodness, needing redemption.


A Cultural/Societal Redress to Christian Assertion

From another perspective, the human nature may be seen not so much as fallen but as morally ambiguous - a tension produced by the interplay of biology, culture, and circumstance. Societies shape moral codes, and cultures reinforce behaviors that can incline individuals toward compassion or cruelty, generosity or selfishness. What Christianity calls “fallen” could also be interpreted as the result of systemic forces, inherited traditions, and social conditioning that magnify our weaknesses as much as nurture our strengths.

In this sense, the human condition is less an ontological fall from perfection and more an ongoing struggle within a dynamic moral landscape.


So, we could frame it like this:

  • Christian assertion: Human beings are fallen, fundamentally needing grace and redemption.

  • Redressed view: Human beings are morally ambiguous, their nobility and depravity emerging within cultural, historical, and societal variables rather than from a primordial rupture alone.

But, is there another approach which we might use in describing the human condition and it's apparent reflection of God and of ourselves? Yes, I think there is... it's known as the Lacanian Lack.


Definition of “Lack” in the Philosophical / Psychoanalytic Tradition

“Lack” is a concept that appears especially in psychoanalysis, i) notably in Jacques Lacan, but also in ii) existential philosophy. Some key features:

  • Lacan’s Lack (manque): The idea that human desire is structured around something missing, some gap - not just an absence of a particular object, but a lack as such, often lack of being. There are different kinds of lack in Lacanian theory: e.g. lack of being (a fundamental existential gap), lack of having, etc. Desire arises because of lack: if we had full satisfaction, we’d have no reason to desire. Wikipedia

  • Existentialist notions similarly speak of alienation, finitude, or nothingness: humans are aware of limits (death, meaninglessness, contingency), and this awareness carries a sense of absence or insufficiency or incompletion.

So “lack” is more than simply “we want something” — it’s a structural absence, something that cannot be fully filled, that shapes human subjectivity, striving, longing.


Lacan's manque (lack)

The human nature is wholly possessed by a "lack of being." It is a fundamental, constitutive aspect of human subjectivity, arising from the inherent gap in our being and the inability of language or any single object to provide complete satisfaction. It is the lack of a stable, complete self and the fundamental lack-of-being (manque-à-être) that drives desire, as we perpetually search for something to fill this void. This lack is not merely an absence but the very condition for human desire and identity, a perpetual, metonymic journey that can never be fully satisfied.

The Source of Desire
  • Not a deficiency, but a condition - Manque is not a simple lack of a thing or object; rather, it is a structuring absence that makes us who we are (our identity is our lack or absence which would fulfill us;  as human, we can never feel complete or fulfilled).
  • The desire of the Other - Our desires originate from the Other, and we seek to answer what the Other desires, creating a space of lack and desire within ourselves.
  • Desire is a surplus - Desire is not the desire for a specific object but the surplus created when need is transformed into demand by the Other.

Key Aspects of Manque
  • Lack of Being (Manque-à-être) - This is the fundamental lack of a complete, self-present self. We are "wanting-to-be" because we never fully "are".
  • The objet petit a - While not a thing, this is the elusive object-cause of desire that represents the ultimate, unfillable void, forever promising but never delivering satisfaction.
  • Metonymy - Desire is caught in metonymy, constantly moving from one signifier to another in an endless pursuit of something that can never be fully grasped or found.
Consequences of Manque
  • Unending Quest - Because desire is the difference between what we demand and what we truly need, it can never be fully satisfied.
  • Subjectivity - The awareness and expression of this lack are crucial for a subject to truly articulate their history and achieve a form of self-knowledge.
  • Psychoanalytic Practice - Understanding manque is central to psychoanalysis, which involves helping subjects confront the irreconcilable nature of their desire and lack, rather than seeking to eliminate it.

Bringing “Lack” into Human Nature: Christian and Cultural Perspectives

Christian View (with Lack)

In Christian theology, you might see this “lack” as tied to the Fall:

  • Recognition/Confession - Because of sin, human nature becomes aware of something missing: communion with God, moral righteousness, fullness of joy, etc. We experience spiritual emptiness, guilt, alienation.

  • Redemption/Act - In Christ's atonement is presented the way to address that lack: the promise of restoration, of being filled (with grace, the Holy Spirit), and ultimately, reconnection not only with self but with God.

In Christian terms, the lack is not only descriptive (what we are missing) but normative and teleological (there can be fulfillment, and Christ's salvation provides it).

Cultural / Societal Lens on Lack

From the cultural or societal angle, “lack” might also be shaped by:

  • Social structures: Inequality, injustice, poverty can produce lack (lack of resources, lack of opportunity) that becomes internalized as part of persons’ sense of identity.

  • Cultural expectations / alienation: Sometimes what is “lacking” is recognition, meaning, belonging, purpose. Modern societies often produce disconnection or fragmentation, making people aware of missing connections or missing meaningful narratives.

  • Consumer culture: Persistent advertising and social media can amplify sense of lack: “If only I had X, then I would be fulfilled,” but in fact every acquisition proves partial and temporary.

So then, culturally, “lack” may refer less to a metaphysical condition of sin, more to structural or existential deficits embedded in living.


Comparison: "Christian Fallen Nature + Lack" vs. "Morally Ambiguous View + Lack"

Putting these together gives us sharper contrasts:

AspectChristian Fallen + LackMorally Ambiguous + Lack (Cultural View)
Nature of LackRooted in sin and separation from God; spiritual emptiness; moral brokenness; lack that needs divine remedy.Rooted in social, psychological, existential dynamics; lack of community, of dignity, of meaning.
ScopeUniversal (all human nature is affected by Fall).Varies by cultural, social, historical context; some people less affected, others more.
Possibility of FulfillmentThrough grace, redemption, spiritual transformation; ultimate fulfillment in Christian hope.Through societal reform, psychological healing, cultural renewal, meaning-making; but may never be fully resolved.
Moral ImplicationsResponsibility, repentance, moral striving, dependence on God.Responsibility too (structures, empathy, institutions), but more emphasis on systemic change and relationality.

A More Complete Statement of Human Nature Including “Lack”

Here’s how we might incorporate lack into a revised definition:

Human nature comprises a human being created for relationship, moral goodness, and meaning - but is also a condition fundamentally marked by lack of wholeness, incompleteness, or felt lack of identity: it is not only a spiritual, existential, or moral gap or condition but also structurally concrete in its signifying felt-identifiers and self-expressions.

In Christian theology - this lack arises from the Fall and results in alienation, sin, and separation from God;

In cultural and societal terms - this lack often takes shape as unmet needs (of recognition, justice, belonging), structural injustice, and inner yearning.

Therefore, the human condition is not simply ambiguous or fallen, but always in search - seeking fulfillment of something beyond what is immediately given. 



II. WHO REFLECTS WHOM?

Let's again provide a descriptive statement of the human nature as we did at the outset. That the human nature can be understood as the composite of qualities that characterize humanity:

  • Rationality and creativity (our capacity for reason, imagination, and design)

  • Relationality and empathy (our need for community, love, and meaning)

  • Moral ambiguity (our ability to choose good, but also to inflict harm)

  • Finitude and variability (our mortality, limitations, and shifting desires)

It is this mixture - noble aspiration and flawed imperfection - that frames the reflection between God and man.


Four Statements (2+2)

(a) Man reflects God

  • Positive: If we reflect God, then our best qualities - creativity, compassion, and love - are expressions of divine goodness shining through us. Human dignity and worth are grounded in God’s own being.

  • Negative: If we reflect God, then why are we also violent, selfish, and destructive? Either God bears responsibility for our flaws, or our reflection is cracked and distorted.


(b) God reflects us
  • Positive: If God reflects us, then divine imagery becomes accessible - we see God in human struggle, yearning, and history. God becomes relatable, sharing in our joys and sorrows.

  • Negative: If God reflects us, then why isn’t God as fickle, contradictory, and inconsistent as we are? A God who merely mirrors humanity risks shrinking into a projection of our shifting moods and biases.

These four statements illustrate the paradox: either we reflect God or God reflects us. Both possibilities expose the depth of human dignity and the danger of projection.
  • If we reflect God, our highest virtues testify to divine goodness, though our vices raise troubling questions.
  • If God reflects us, divine imagery becomes accessible and human, though it risks collapsing into mere projection.

(c) Who's in Whose Image?

The mystery remains: are we made in God’s image, or do we continually remake God in ours?

Practically, we see the Christian Bible written in very human terms of God - both in projection of who God is and how God acts, as well as in justification for our own acts of sin and evil upon ourselves and others. The texts bear witness to a God of love and covenant, yet they also echo humanity’s own fears, biases, and violent impulses. Scripture becomes both revelation and mirror: it discloses divine faithfulness and compassion, but it also reflects the limits of the cultures and communities that produced those theologies as verity and assertion.

This tension invites us to read the Bible with discernment:
  • If the image of God presented is sometimes shaped by human projection, then interpretation must distinguish between the voice of divine love and the echoes of human distortion.
  • To confess that we are made in God’s image is to affirm our dignity and capacity for goodness; to recognize that we remake God in our image is to remain vigilant against turning our fears, hatreds, or ambitions into idols clothed in divine language.
Thus, the paradox remains unresolved. To say we reflect God honors the divine imprint within us, but to say God reflects us cautions against confusing our projections with divine reality. Perhaps the truth lies not in choosing one or the other, but in acknowledging the tension itself - living within it with humility, discernment, and hope.


III. A PROCESS THEOLOGY MINDSET


Process theology offers a third way. Instead of asking whether i) man reflects God or ii) God reflects mans, process thought sees reflection as mutual and dynamic. God is not fixed and unyielding, nor merely a projection of human frailty. Rather, God and humanity are bound together in a relationship of ongoing becoming.

In this view, God’s eternal character is love, while God’s concrete experience includes the world’s suffering, joys, and struggles. Humanity reflects God by participating in creativity, compassion, and moral striving. At the same time, God reflects us by taking the world into the divine life, feeling our pain and weaving it into the divine memory and experience. Reflection, then, is not one-sided but reciprocal: God influences us toward greater beauty, truth, and goodness, and we in turn contribute to the very texture of God’s ongoing life.

The four statements then leave us with a paradox: to say i) that we reflect God elevates our nobility, but to say ii) that God reflects us explains divine variability. Yet neither option on its own satisfies the depth of the question. Process theology offers a more holistic view. Instead of “either/or,” it suggests a both/and:
  • Cosmic grounding and divine experience - God and humanity reflect one another in an ongoing dialogue of becoming. God’s eternal love grounds the world, while God’s relational nature means the world genuinely shapes God through the lived experience of creation’s dynamic life.
  • Divine/Human nature and Reciprocity - Similarly, humanity reflects God’s creative image, even as God reflects humanity’s struggles, joys, and longings by taking them into the divine life.
In this mutual reflection, the mystery is not reduced but deepened: God and humanity are co-participants in the unfolding story of creation, joined together in the pursuit of greater wholeness.


CONCLUSION

Process theology offers a more holistic view. Instead of “either/or,” it suggests a both/and: God and humanity reflect one another in an ongoing dialogue of becoming. God’s eternal love grounds the world, while God’s relational nature means the world genuinely shapes God in God's experience of creation. Which is a plus as it means that our cries for help, our prayers for completion, our daily interactions in a dynamically changing world, all can be heard and met by a God that is near and not far; who hears and acts in response to our changing conditions; who is as much companion as eternal God.

Further, humanity reflects God’s creative image, even as God reflects our human struggle by taking our human experience into the divine life. In this mutual reflection, the mystery is not reduced but deepened: God and humanity are co-participants in the unfolding story of creation, joined in the pursuit of greater wholeness.

Process theology therefore reframes the paradox. Rather than asking whether man reflects God or God reflects man, it sees the relationship as mutual and dynamic. Humanity reflects God in its creativity, love, and striving, while God reflects humanity by taking our experiences - our hopes and dreams, joys and sorrows - into the divine life. In this way, the cosmic mirrored reflection is not one-sided but relational: God and humanity co-shape one another in the unfolding drama of creation, bound together by the constancy of divine love.


May we live as co-creators in the divine dialogue of becoming;
reflecting God’s love, even as God reflects our lives,
until all creation is joined in wholeness.

- re slater & chatgpt

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