Quotes & Sayings


We, and creation itself, actualize the possibilities of the God who sustains the world, towards becoming in the world in a fuller, more deeper way. - R.E. Slater

There is urgency in coming to see the world as a web of interrelated processes of which we are integral parts, so that all of our choices and actions have [consequential effects upon] the world around us. - Process Metaphysician Alfred North Whitehead

Kurt Gödel's Incompleteness Theorem says (i) all closed systems are unprovable within themselves and, that (ii) all open systems are rightly understood as incomplete. - R.E. Slater

The most true thing about you is what God has said to you in Christ, "You are My Beloved." - Tripp Fuller

The God among us is the God who refuses to be God without us, so great is God's Love. - Tripp Fuller

According to some Christian outlooks we were made for another world. Perhaps, rather, we were made for this world to recreate, reclaim, redeem, and renew unto God's future aspiration by the power of His Spirit. - R.E. Slater

Our eschatological ethos is to love. To stand with those who are oppressed. To stand against those who are oppressing. It is that simple. Love is our only calling and Christian Hope. - R.E. Slater

Secularization theory has been massively falsified. We don't live in an age of secularity. We live in an age of explosive, pervasive religiosity... an age of religious pluralism. - Peter L. Berger

Exploring the edge of life and faith in a post-everything world. - Todd Littleton

I don't need another reason to believe, your love is all around for me to see. – Anon

Thou art our need; and in giving us more of thyself thou givest us all. - Khalil Gibran, Prayer XXIII

Be careful what you pretend to be. You become what you pretend to be. - Kurt Vonnegut

Religious beliefs, far from being primary, are often shaped and adjusted by our social goals. - Jim Forest

We become who we are by what we believe and can justify. - R.E. Slater

People, even more than things, need to be restored, renewed, revived, reclaimed, and redeemed; never throw out anyone. – Anon

Certainly, God's love has made fools of us all. - R.E. Slater

An apocalyptic Christian faith doesn't wait for Jesus to come, but for Jesus to become in our midst. - R.E. Slater

Christian belief in God begins with the cross and resurrection of Jesus, not with rational apologetics. - Eberhard Jüngel, Jürgen Moltmann

Our knowledge of God is through the 'I-Thou' encounter, not in finding God at the end of a syllogism or argument. There is a grave danger in any Christian treatment of God as an object. The God of Jesus Christ and Scripture is irreducibly subject and never made as an object, a force, a power, or a principle that can be manipulated. - Emil Brunner

“Ehyeh Asher Ehyeh” means "I will be that who I have yet to become." - God (Ex 3.14) or, conversely, “I AM who I AM Becoming.”

Our job is to love others without stopping to inquire whether or not they are worthy. - Thomas Merton

The church is God's world-changing social experiment of bringing unlikes and differents to the Eucharist/Communion table to share life with one another as a new kind of family. When this happens, we show to the world what love, justice, peace, reconciliation, and life together is designed by God to be. The church is God's show-and-tell for the world to see how God wants us to live as a blended, global, polypluralistic family united with one will, by one Lord, and baptized by one Spirit. – Anon

The cross that is planted at the heart of the history of the world cannot be uprooted. - Jacques Ellul

The Unity in whose loving presence the universe unfolds is inside each person as a call to welcome the stranger, protect animals and the earth, respect the dignity of each person, think new thoughts, and help bring about ecological civilizations. - John Cobb & Farhan A. Shah

If you board the wrong train it is of no use running along the corridors of the train in the other direction. - Dietrich Bonhoeffer

God's justice is restorative rather than punitive; His discipline is merciful rather than punishing; His power is made perfect in weakness; and His grace is sufficient for all. – Anon

Our little [biblical] systems have their day; they have their day and cease to be. They are but broken lights of Thee, and Thou, O God art more than they. - Alfred Lord Tennyson

We can’t control God; God is uncontrollable. God can’t control us; God’s love is uncontrolling! - Thomas Jay Oord

Life in perspective but always in process... as we are relational beings in process to one another, so life events are in process in relation to each event... as God is to Self, is to world, is to us... like Father, like sons and daughters, like events... life in process yet always in perspective. - R.E. Slater

To promote societal transition to sustainable ways of living and a global society founded on a shared ethical framework which includes respect and care for the community of life, ecological integrity, universal human rights, respect for diversity, economic justice, democracy, and a culture of peace. - The Earth Charter Mission Statement

Christian humanism is the belief that human freedom, individual conscience, and unencumbered rational inquiry are compatible with the practice of Christianity or even intrinsic in its doctrine. It represents a philosophical union of Christian faith and classical humanist principles. - Scott Postma

It is never wise to have a self-appointed religious institution determine a nation's moral code. The opportunities for moral compromise and failure are high; the moral codes and creeds assuredly racist, discriminatory, or subjectively and religiously defined; and the pronouncement of inhumanitarian political objectives quite predictable. - R.E. Slater

God's love must both center and define the Christian faith and all religious or human faiths seeking human and ecological balance in worlds of subtraction, harm, tragedy, and evil. - R.E. Slater

In Whitehead’s process ontology, we can think of the experiential ground of reality as an eternal pulse whereby what is objectively public in one moment becomes subjectively prehended in the next, and whereby the subject that emerges from its feelings then perishes into public expression as an object (or “superject”) aiming for novelty. There is a rhythm of Being between object and subject, not an ontological division. This rhythm powers the creative growth of the universe from one occasion of experience to the next. This is the Whiteheadian mantra: “The many become one and are increased by one.” - Matthew Segall

Without Love there is no Truth. And True Truth is always Loving. There is no dichotomy between these terms but only seamless integration. This is the premier centering focus of a Processual Theology of Love. - R.E. Slater

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Note: Generally I do not respond to commentary. I may read the comments but wish to reserve my time to write (or write from the comments I read). Instead, I'd like to see our community help one another and in the helping encourage and exhort each of us towards Christian love in Christ Jesus our Lord and Savior. - re slater

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Saturday, March 22, 2025

The Importance of Torah and Community vs. Maga Anarchy and Imperialism



The Importance of Torah and Community
vs. Maga Anarchy and Imperialism

On the whole I have understood the term anarchy as a violent reaction to legal authority which has more recently been applied to maga-evangelicalism's activist rejection of America's Constitutional authority as evidenced in it's severe reaction to Donald Trump's presidential loss in 2020 to President Biden on January 6, 2021, in it's mass violent demonstrations in Washington, D.C.

I am also of the firm belief that America's conceived liberal democracy adjudicating for legal fairness and equality within its form of liberal democracy for all races and religions is the gold standard for any society wishing to pursue peaceful policies for cooperative and humane society building.

Today I am including an article which advocates for these same ideas by "radicalizing" or "twisting" the term "anarchy" away from it's violent connotations to a non-violent form of response to unfair governance and rule.

Which is ironic when applied to America's Constitutional political process... and yet imaginable in that America's Republican party has failed in its leadership role and guidance towards societal fairness and equality:
Presently, under President Trump, Maga-Republicans are actively advancing maga-majority white rule via maga-based Hillsdale (Christian) College's Project 2025 which advocates the resurrection of the bad-old days of Colonial Western-European rule over non-whites and non-white religion.
In my idealism of America's Civil Right's for women, gays, non-whites, and non-Christians it seems that the nation's white Christian population is not as benevolent nor societally-minded as its originating Constitutional contract put in place in 1776.

In my naivete I had thought that rightness would displace wrongness but maga-evangelicalisim's societal response to color and difference has shown to me only my misguided idealism for the Christian church.
An idealism which I had held within my white evangelical church setting until lately coming to the new maga-reality under the Trump-era commencing in c. 2015 to the present day.... How very wrong I was.... Nor do I suspect the evangelist Billy Graham could have foreseen the church's deep misapprehension of Jesus' Gospel by today's maga-church.
The Middle-Eastern Jesus I had come to love and preach has unfortunately been historically aligned over the centuries with the bloody Christian Crusades against all non-Christian races and beliefs. Rather than preaching a non-assimilating, non-white gospel of love, peace, and harmony in the Abrahamic God of Jesus (who Christians believe to be God Incarnate on Earth) the church's missional God has been politicized to reflect non-Christian injustice and inequality currently held by its majority maga-congregants.

Under Maga's political influence we are witnessing once again another form of White Western "Christianized" Crusading that is Constitutionally illegal, unjust, oppressive, harming, and persecuting.

Maga has brought a new kind of religious violence into American society and is justifying it under its errant theologies of church dominionism which I have described in the past as New Covenant-based Reconstructionism. That is, under Jesus' atoning redemption today's maga-church wishes to overthrow American Constitutionalism for it's own beliefs in the rightness of Church-led, Kingdom-based, rule via institutionalized monarchy.

Thus and thus the plethora of lies and propaganda which we witness daily from the mouths of Trumpian maga'ites who no longer can lawfully abide under the American Constitution but wish to overthrow it's legal document and imports so that white anarchal rule might reign supreme.

This then is how I have used and understood the word "anarchy" in my white church setting over the years when reflecting politically on my church's most recent misguided teachings and doctrines begun under Jerry Falwell's "Moral Majority." Once centered in Jesus and not politics my Christian faith has now been displaced by political revisionism and oppression:
Thus I decry the maga-church's misappropriation of its religious beliefs in overthrowing America's Constitution for its own incongruous rule of Christian injustice upon race, color, and difference.
Maga has determined not to learn how to apply Christian love and harmony into our Constitutional spaces but to act illegally and treasonously against America's 300 year-old experiment of imperfect democracy.

Hence my departure from the maga-Church and my own personal advocacy for a process-based understanding of the Christian religion and its faith practices beginning with the firm belief that God is love and that all faith - and faith practices - including the ethical / moral political rule of society - must be grounded in loving response to God and to our fellow man in ethical / moral policies, behaviours, and endeavors.

R.E. Slater
March 22, 2025


Reflections on peace and faith

Is there such a thing as a
Christian political philosophy?

by Ted Grimsrud
April 22, 2023

[reformatting and edits are mine. - re slater]


As long as I have cared about Christianity and politics, which is about as long as I have been a pacifist, I have thought that we need a political philosophy that captures key elements of the biblical vision of human social life. None of the main options one encounters in a political theory class (such as liberal democracy, communism, or monarchy) seem to come close to doing that. That leaves pacifist Christians with a kind of disembodied political philosophy—which is surely part the reason that pacifism seems too unrealistic. To try to fit pacifism into a philosophy of liberal democracy where a core principle is that the meaning of the state rests on its monopoly on legitimate violence is like trying to fit the proverbial round peg into a square hole.

Not long after I embraced pacifism, I learned to know a couple of anarchists. They helped open my eyes to a possible option. Then, when I took a class on the history of political theory in graduate school, I was pleased that the professor treated anarchism as a legitimate theory within the cacophony of theories that have been articulated in the western tradition. He didn’t spend much time on anarchism in the class, but that recognition of anarchism as a serious political philosophy planted a seed for me. I am still trying to make sense of Christian pacifism as a realistic and important set of convictions for people of good will. In this post, I want to reflect on the possibility that something like anarchism (or, more precisely what I will call an “anarchistic sensibility”) actually may help us imagine better the political relevance of pacifism.

What is anarchism?

The term “anarchism,” similarly to “nonviolence,” is a negative term that in its most profound sense speaks of a positive approach to human social life. Though the term “anarchism” literally means against “authority” (arché), it is at its heart—as I understand it—not mainly against something. It is for freedom and for decentralized ways of organizing social life that enhance human well-being. Anarchism has an unfair, though not totally unfounded, reputation for being violent, even terrorist. There indeed have been numerous acts of violence in the name of anarchism, perhaps most notably in the US the 1901 assassination of President McKinley at the hand of a self-proclaimed anarchist (though one who had few links with other anarchists).

The great thinkers in the anarchist tradition, however, generally were not people of violence nor advocates of terrorist tactics. Late 19th and early 20th century writers and visionaries such as Pierre-Joseph Proudhon, Michael Bakunin (perhaps the most pro-violence of the lot), Peter Kropotkin, and Emma Goldman had ambivalent feelings about violence, but for all of them, the main concern was imagining how human life might be organized in ways that enhance human freedom and self-determination. Still, what probably united classical anarchists as much as anything was a strong antipathy toward the state. There is a sense that the spirit of anarchism is not unfairly described as a spirit of rebellion versus centralized nation states as much as any one commitment. To achieve [a] political life that is genuinely free and self-determined, the state must go—root and branch.

However, it could be that the anarchism represented by these thinkers is too state-centered. Maybe we would do better with a political philosophy that has anarchistic sensibilites if we did not equate politics with state-politics. This may be the key to developing a Christian political philosophy as well—to imagine it as having not simply to do with how we might run the state. In several articles and a PhD dissertation, political thinker Ted Troxell has helpfully brought together Christian theology, anarchist thought, and what he calls “postanarchism.”

Postanarchism

“Postanarchism” is a term that has arisen in the 21st century to refer to attempts to apply postmodern or poststructuralist thought to anarchism. This is not a way to be finished with anarchism but rather to apply these new styles of thought to anarchist theory in order to make it more relevant to our contemporary context. Troxell mentions one important postanarchist thinker, Todd May, who differentiates between what he calls “strategic” and “tactical” thinking. Strategic-thinking-oriented anarchism focuses on one particular theme, the state, while a more tactical-thinking-oriented approach questions that unitary focus and seek to broaden the scope of applying anarchist thought.

One especially important theme, according to Troxell, where this increased flexibility becomes key is our response to macroeconomic issues related to the dominant neoliberal regime we live in that is not strictly state-centered. In general, a more tactical approach creates possibilities of heightened creativity in navigating the particular issues facing people seeking a more humane politics in the contemporary world. Postanarchism, as presented by Troxell, also makes a closer link between Christianity and anarchism seem more possible. 

Christian anarchism

As a rule, not without reason, anarchists have seen Christianity as part of the problem. However, ever since the rise of Christendom in the early Middle Ages, a few Christians have joined the resistance to the domination system:

Note, the early Franciscans’ voluntary poverty; the Anabaptists’ radical anti-Christendom witness; the pro-labor and antiwar activism and unconditional hospitality of the Catholic Workers, and the overtly Christian influences on the Civil Rights Movement.

Troxell suggests it is even possible to talk about “Christian anarchism.” However, this is an anarchism that agrees with postanarchism in not focusing on overthrowing the state. Christian Anarchism instead will seek to find ways to live out an alternative witness [for] a peaceable world as a way to anticipate the hoped-for kingdom of God

Contemporary theologian, Alexandre Christoyannopoulos, has written a book, Christian Anarchism: A Political Commentary on the Gospel, that articulates a vision that has in mind not the overthrow of present structures so much [as] the subversion of them. This subversion emphasizes creating alternative communities that embody the way of life that is to come. The hoped-for revolution will lead to social transformation, but through love, forgiveness, and patience not violence and terror. For Christian anarchism, radical living in the present is made possible by trust in God’s guidance of history that will lead to an authentically [peaceable] anarchist social reality. 

The Anabaptist contribution

The Anabaptist tradition has been occasionally recognized as a kind of prefiguring of anarchism, though rarely have there ever been overt connections between anarchists and Anabaptists. In recent years, especially in light of a decentering of the idea of overthrowing the state, it has become more common for Christian anarchism to see Anabaptist emphases as relevant.

An Anabaptist critique of the state would not include a call to abolish the state, though the state indeed is all too often characterized by Jesus’s charge of tyranny. However, even so, it plays a necessary restraining role in protecting people from the resultant destructive chaos likely to ensue were the state abolished before people were truly ready for the self-determination anarchism hopes for. Recognizing that abolishing the state is not an immediately desirable outcome is thus a common stance that Anabaptistic and a postanarchistic sensibilities share. 

As part of the decentering of the state and state power, we could see a point of contact in thinking about power more generally. An Anabaptist reading of the New Testament notes the use of power in the plural—the “powers and principalities”—with the sense that it is appropriate to reject the notion of power in the modern world that sees it as centralized and univocal and rather recognize that power should be seen as multifaceted [sic, "empowering" others vs. "powering-over" others]. Postanarchists also understand power to arise “from many different sites” in ways that interact to form our social world. 

To recognize power’s decentralized manifestation in the world supports seeing social action as oriented toward efforts to construct humane spaces for creativity and peaceable living more than to directly overthrow the existing order. The efforts of the Anabaptists over the centuries have been focused on creating alternative faith communities and in the context of those communities to develop strategies for meeting human needs and express human creativity and, in a sense, letting the state take care of itself. 

Troxell calls this positive focus on creating space to be human [and humane] outside the domination of the state “a structural indifference to the state.” With this, the state is not necessarily rejected as unimportant on a practical level so much as it is not the central emphasis for the community’s political involvements. In a parallel manner, postanarchism is uninterested in typical anarchist strategies of creating a “vanguard movement” to take down the state. Instead, since there is no centralized source of power that must be taken control of, the focus may be turned toward the decentralized politics of direct involvement in the day-to-day work of humane engagement. The goal is to construct a politics that embodies decentralized power all the way down.

When the focus is to construct decentralized spaces to be humane more than concentrated efforts to overthrow the state, the emphasis will be on the practices to sustain that humaneness—another point of close connection between Anabaptist thought and postanarchism. Anabaptist peaceable practices are similar to what some postanarchists call “micropolitics.” A central practice is that of patient listening to various points of view. This listening is a key element in processing conflicts. Inspired by the Anabaptist emphasis on the importance of the Bible, we may seek a reading of scripture that highlights ways that the Bible actually might support an anarchistic sensibility. The points of congruence between Anabaptism and postanarchism may be linked with such a reading.

The Bible’s “anarchistic” politics: Old Testament

The Bible provides much material for idealistic hopes, and we should take that material seriously. One of the main functions of the Bible is to hold before us a vision of genuine healing and shalom. At the same time, the Bible does give us pictures of human fallenness, of imperfect communities, of power politics. The tension between the imperfect and the ideal remains very much in place.

From the start, the story expresses a deep suspicion of centralized political power. At first this is a bit subtle. Only if we notice what is missing in the creation story will we recognize its subversive tenor. The creative force and center of power in the universe is not anything hinting of human kingship or empires. It is a free, humane, relational God whose creative energies stem from love not domination. The human politics in the rest of Genesis are familial, decentralized, local, and often surprising. Younger sons at times take priority. Injustices at times are forgiven. The God at times sides with the weaker and more vulnerable members of the community.

In Exodus, the Bible’s anti-imperial sensibility becomes explicit. The paragon of power politics, the god-emperor Pharaoh of Egypt is shown to be corrupt and overtly opposed to the God of the Hebrews (that is, according to the story, the God who is the Creator of the Universe—so this is a cosmological statement). God intervenes to liberate the Hebrews from slavery in Egypt and gifts them with a blueprint for a just and humane society—the law codes (Torah). Though Torah certainly contains many ambiguities and reflects its own time and place of origin, as a whole, it may fruitfully be read as an exercise in anti-imperial politics. The vision of communal life in Torah is a counter-vision to the notion of life expressed in Egypt’s ways of domination. So, the exodus story includes both a critique of centralized, unjust power and a vision for an alternative community of freed slaves, an alternative vision for human life.

The community is meant to operate in a way that prevents a return to slavery. The anti-slavery dynamics of Torah include both a rejection of centralized power (initially, no human king and no permanent military; when allowance for the possibility of human kingship is made, precautions are still provided to prevent aggrandizement of power and wealth) and an affirmation of the center of power being the community and not some kind of small elite.

Along with Egypt, later empires are also critiqued throughout the Bible. Assyria, Babylon, Persia, and Rome are often presented as God’s enemies, as oppressors of the Hebrew people (and so many others), and as the sources of most of the world’s violence and injustice. The entire project of the exodus, Torah, and the sustenance of the community of God’s people is framed from the beginning in terms of God’s work of blessing all the families of the earth. Resistance to power politics is one of the main aspects of this work, along with constructing communities that model genuine justice and empower the vulnerable.

One of the most politically significant parts of the Bible is the account of the post-exodus community. Though gifted with Torah as guidance to just living, it struggles from the beginning to actually embody such just living. They end up with a homeland, gained by morally ambiguous means, including a great deal of violence. What’s not ambiguous is that in time, this territorial kingdom departs from Torah’s guidance for just living:

As the kings and power elite imitate the ways of the nations and exploit the vulnerable, prophets arise who reemphasize the perennial relevance of Torah and the politics of decentralized power and empowered self-determination. In the end, the territorial kingdom is destroyed, and with it that model as a channel for God’s promise is ended.

 So, the relevance of Torah is multifaceted, in many ways hinting at an anarchistic sensibility—especially in its critique of centralized power, attention to the needs of the vulnerable, providing guidance for shared power in the community, and empowerment of the prophets as a source of insight and direction from leaders outside the elite establishment.

The Bible’s “anarchistic” politics: New Testament

It is possible to read New Testament politics as being in continuity with the Old Testament when we recognize how central to the story is the failure of the territorial kingdom as the locus for God’s work among human beings:

The Hebrews were given the Land as a place to embody Torah and fulfill their vocation to bless all the families of the earth. For various reasons, they failed to do so. The leadership class became corrupt, and Torah was disregarded. Ultimately, the territorial kingdoms were destroyed by a couple of the great empires, Assyria and Babylon. The key message of this tragic story, though, was that the destruction of the territorial kingdoms was not actually a defeat for Yahweh, the God of the Hebrews. This destruction was actually a vindication of Torah and of the warning God gave the people back when they entered the Land in the time of Joshua: Disregard Torah and your kingdom will fall.
When the territorial kingdom had been established the people gradually turned from Torah. At the last minute of this kingdom’s existence, the law books were rediscovered. With Torah back in hand, the community managed to find sustenance for their peoplehood. They didn’t need a king nor a territorial kingdom to witness to the truth of Torah and to bless all the families of the earth. The political message of the Old Testament thus ends up being an affirmation of peoplehood and politics apart from existing as a territorial kingdom.

With that anti-territorial kingdom message in mind, the political dynamics of the New Testament make more senseand it’s easier to see continuity between the two testaments:

Jesus framed his ministry as an expression of the kingdom of God. But politics of the kingdom of God as presented by Jesus has to do not with a territorial kingdom but with embodying Torah in decentralized, shalom-focused “assemblies.” The common life and witness of these assemblies was about politics in the same ways that the original Torah-centered community following the exodus was—practice generosity, justice for the vulnerable, non-acquisitive economics, no centralized power elite, reconciliation rather than retaliation when there is conflict.

Both testaments show optimism that the dictates of Torah that especially empower vulnerable people are followable. Certainly, we read of many failures to embody the way of Torah consistently, but the main responsibility for such failures generally lies with the powers-that-be in the community and with the impact of the great empires on the people (from Egypt to Rome). Human nature is not the problem so much as the imposition of power politics from the top down. The Bible, as a whole, undermines the domination of hierarchies in human communities. Do not be like the tyrants of the nations, Jesus insisted.

Transforming politics

An Anabaptist reading of biblical politics has much to gain from a conversation with postanarchists. The potential of useful connections with postanarchists may also be present with other anarchist thinkers as well. Anabaptists suggest a line of continuity from the formation of the people of God around the liberating work of Yahweh (with the prophetic word and not human power politics at the center) through the failure of the geographically bounded kingdom option through the continuation of peoplehood based on Torah and not the sword culminating in Jesus as king, reinforcing a politics of servanthood. Many of the classic anarchist thinkers and practitioners (maybe most especially Peter Kropotkin) have sought a similar kind of politics.

My concern is not so much with converting anarchists to Christianity or to convert Christians to anarchists. I don’t even know yet if I want to call myself a full-fledged anarchist. More so, I want to work at a way of reading the Bible that would challenge Christians to embody a radical political philosophy. And with that, I suspect more awareness of the anarchist tradition, including the recent thought of postanarchists, would be very helpful for that task. And if doing so would make biblical and theological resources more available to anarchists and other activists, so much the better.

Sunday, March 9, 2025

Jesus' Empire of Love v Maga's Empire of Hate


America's Dream of a Fair and Equitable Democracy is unwanted by Maga-Evangelicals
wishing to destroy it's civil government to be replaced by a religious empire of their own making

Jesus' Empire of Love
v
Maga's Empire of Hate

Process Theology v. Maga-Evangelical Theology

by ChatGPT 4.0 & R.E. Slater
March 9, 2025

These past several weeks we've been looking at how the messages of Israel and the Church have been similar - and similarly different - from one another when it comes to preaching God's Story in the life of Men and Nature.

We've looked at the Bible as "Revelation in Transition," Judaism, Hellenism, Stoicism, the Church Fathers, and have peeked at the state of the Jewish and Christian faiths in light of their Trumpian/Maga fears, mistrustful words, straying beliefs, and harming actions.

Today we'll look at Maga-Evangelicalism's message of God having done the same in our last article using the passages of Ezekiel 25-32 from the bible. In that previous article we utilized the historical critical method to show Israel's religious beliefs to be a faith in transitional process during its late Monoarchy and Exilic periods.

Below are the most previous articles along with today's newest critical examination of the American Christian faith gone wrong under evangelicalism's maga influence as infecting both the traditional Protestant and Catholic faiths....

R.E. Slater
March 9, 2025

A History of Christian Governance


A History of Christian Governance <-- the capstone to all below (esp read part III)




The Evolution of God: From Polytheism to Monotheism <-- Divine Revelation in Process









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Maga-Evangelical Christianity wants to replace American Decmocracy
with it's own Christian Empire of Hate and Oppression


Hi. Let's talk about Jesus' God of love as put forth in Process theology vs maga-evangelicalismi's God of evil.
  • First, is this a fair assessment as historic evangelicalism has always had trouble with explaining its doctrine of theodicy. (sic, how good and evil can exist in the same divine space)
  • And secondly, as demonstrated by maga over the past twenty years, it is quick to oppression and violence towards those of difference.

ChatGPT said:

Yes, your framing of the contrast between the God of love in Process Theology and the God of power (even evil) in MAGA-influenced evangelicalism is fair in terms of broad theological and historical trends.

Evangelicalism and Theocracy:
Historically, evangelicalism has struggled with theocracy because of its tension between personal salvation and societal control. Early evangelicals, such as those in the First and Second Great Awakenings, focused on personal conversion and moral reform but were not always tied to state power. However, as evangelicalism became more entangled with American nationalism—especially in the late 20th century—some factions began advocating for a form of theocracy, or at least Christian dominionism, which prioritizes political power over theological nuance.

MAGA Evangelicalism:
The modern MAGA evangelical movement has demonstrated a clear tendency toward authoritarianism, exclusion, and even violence against those who do not conform to its vision. This shift has been fueled by apocalyptic narratives, resentment politics, and a belief that American identity is inherently Christian (and by extension, white, patriarchal, and nationalist). This vision of God is often portrayed as a wrathful warrior defending "true believers" and punishing outsiders—whether they be immigrants, LGBTQ+ individuals, or political opponents. The theological justification for this comes from a selective reading of scripture, often emphasizing Old Testament conquest narratives while downplaying the radical love and inclusivity of Jesus.

Process Theology's Alternative:
In contrast, Process Theology, influenced by thinkers like Alfred North Whitehead and John Cobb, sees God as persuasive rather than coercive, working through love rather than domination. God, in this view, does not unilaterally control the world but instead lures creation toward goodness, beauty, and truth. This makes Process Theology inherently opposed to the kind of theocratic, authoritarian impulse found in MAGA evangelicalism. Instead of a God who demands submission and punishes enemies, Process Theology presents a God who suffers with creation and seeks cooperative transformation.

Would you like to explore how these theological differences shape political and social ethics?

You said:
Yes, but first let's begin by comparing how process theology v maga theology would interpret Ezekiel 25-32.

ChatGPT said:

Great starting point. Ezekiel 25–32 contains oracles against various nations—Ammon, Moab, Edom, Philistia, Tyre, Sidon, and Egypt—pronouncing divine judgment for their sins, often through war, conquest, and destruction.

Process Theology Interpretation:

Process Theology, with its focus on a God of love and persuasion rather than coercion, would not take these chapters as literal divine commands for violence. Instead, it would see them as ancient Israel’s theological reflection on suffering and justice. In this view:

  1. Symbolic Justice: These judgments symbolize the consequences of nations acting unjustly towards their own people and to those nations around them, rather than God directly inflicting punishment.
  2. Human Freedom & Responsibility: The destruction described would be seen as the natural result of oppressive and evil human choices rather than divine wrath.
  3. God’s Relational Nature: God works within history, seeking to guide nations toward justice and peace, but does not unilaterally impose it.

In short, Process Theology would interpret these passages as reflections of Israel’s struggle with imperial domination and suffering, rather than endorsements of divine violence.

MAGA Evangelical Interpretation:

MAGA-influenced evangelicalism, with its emphasis on divine power, judgment, and nationalism, might read these passages more literally and through a political lens:

  1. God as a Warrior: These chapters would reinforce the idea that God actively punishes enemies of His chosen people, legitimizing strong nationalistic policies.
  2. Moral Retribution: The destruction of foreign nations would be seen as a warning against secularism, liberalism, or opposition to what they view as God’s will.
  3. End-Times Lens: Many MAGA evangelicals, influenced by dispensationalism, might read these judgments as foreshadowing modern geopolitical struggles, seeing America (or Christian nationalism) as the new chosen people.

Thus, while Process Theology would emphasize divine persuasion and moral consequence, MAGA evangelicalism would likely use these texts to justify authoritarian power, retributive justice, and nationalistic fervor.

Would you like to go deeper into any of these interpretations, or apply them to modern events?

Maga-Evangelicalism wants it's own Empire. Could this be the
Roman/Babylon Empire spoken of in the book of Revelation?

You said:
The latter please...

ChatGPT said:

MAGA Evangelical Interpretation of Ezekiel 25–32

MAGA-influenced evangelicalism, which blends nationalism, dominionism, and apocalyptic thinking, would likely interpret these passages in the following ways:

  1. Divine Retribution & Nationalism – These chapters would be read as a justification for God's direct intervention against enemies. Just as God punished Israel’s historical enemies, many in the MAGA movement see divine judgment as coming upon America’s perceived adversaries—whether liberals, secularists, immigrants, or foreign nations that oppose American dominance.

  2. America as the New Israel – MAGA evangelicals often equate America with biblical Israel, seeing it as uniquely chosen by God. They might read Ezekiel’s condemnations of foreign nations as a prophetic parallel to America’s struggles against perceived external and internal enemies (e.g., China, Islam, LGBTQ+ movements, or the "deep state").

  3. Militarism & End-Times Thinking – Ezekiel’s judgments, often involving destruction by foreign conquerors, fit well with MAGA evangelicalism’s embrace of military strength and apocalyptic rhetoric. They might see modern wars (or even domestic political struggles) as part of a cosmic battle between God’s people (conservative Christians) and the forces of evil (any opposition).

  4. Prosperity & Dominion – The destruction of Tyre (Ezekiel 26–28) could be interpreted as God’s judgment against economic arrogance, but MAGA theology might instead read it as a warning against secular globalism. Conversely, Ezekiel’s promises of Israel’s restoration would reinforce their belief that America must be restored to its supposed Christian foundations through political power and cultural dominance.

How This Differs from Traditional Evangelicalism

While historic evangelicalism has always had an eschatological dimension, it has not always been tied so explicitly to American nationalism or the embrace of political power. MAGA evangelicalism, however, sees these biblical judgments as templates for modern political warfare—where cultural and political opponents must be defeated, not converted. This shift away from personal faith toward nationalistic theocracy makes Ezekiel’s violent imagery particularly appealing to Maga's worldview.

Would you like to explore how these interpretations influence practical policies or cultural attitudes?

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You said:

No. Rather, let's explore the historical and theological development of these contrasting views of God...

ChatGPT said:

1. The Shift Toward a God of Control & Retribution

In some forms of MAGA-influenced evangelicalism, God is portrayed as a powerful ruler who demands absolute obedience, punishes enemies, and blesses those who uphold a specific nationalist or theocratic vision. This idea did not emerge in a vacuum but developed over time through various theological and political influences:

  • Puritan Theocracy (1600s-1700s) – Early American Puritans saw themselves as a "city on a hill," believing in a God who blessed their obedience and punished disobedience. This laid the groundwork for a covenantal nationalism where America was seen as a chosen nation.
  • Manifest Destiny & Civil Religion (1800s) – The belief that God ordained American expansion fueled a sense of divine mission, often at the expense of indigenous peoples and others. This reinforced the idea that God works through military and political dominance.
  • Cold War Evangelicalism (1950s-1980s) – Evangelical leaders aligned with political power, framing America as a bulwark against godlessness (communism, secularism). The idea of a God who fights culture wars became deeply ingrained.
  • Post-9/11 & MAGA Nationalism (2000s-Present) – Evangelical nationalism intensified, with some leaders portraying God as backing a militant, authoritarian approach to culture. This God demands dominance over pluralistic society and is often invoked to justify oppression of difference.

2. The Relational & Loving God in Process Theology & Jesus' Teachings

In contrast, Process Theology and Jesus' own teachings emphasize relational power, persuasion, and love rather than coercion and violence. This view sees God as:

  • Persuasive, Not Coercive – God influences creation through love and relational engagement rather than raw power (John 1:14, Philippians 2:5-8).
  • Committed to Redemption, Not Domination – Jesus' ministry was one of healing, reconciliation, and suffering alongside humanity (Luke 4:18-19, Matthew 11:28-30).
  • Honoring Difference – The early church was radically inclusive, bringing Jews, Gentiles, and outsiders into a new spiritual family (Galatians 3:28, Acts 10:34-35).

3. The Theological Conflict: Power vs. Love

At its core, MAGA-influenced evangelicalism skews toward a theology of power and retribution, whereas Process Theology and Jesus' message focus on love, relational healing, and peacemaking. The MAGA view often projects its own political ambitions onto God, seeing divine blessing as tied to national or ideological supremacy, which contradicts:

  • Jesus’ rejection of worldly power (John 18:36, Matthew 4:8-10).
  • The Beatitudes, which bless peacemakers and the meek (Matthew 5:5,9).
  • Paul’s vision of Christ’s power as self-giving love (Philippians 2:6-8).

Conclusion: A Choice Between Two Theological Paths

The current theological divide is not just about culture or politics—it is about the very nature of God. Is God a violent enforcer of power, as some MAGA evangelicals portray, or is God the loving, relational force seen in Jesus' life and Process Theology? This question has profound implications for how faith interacts with society, justice, and the future of religious thought.

Would you like to explore specific biblical passages or historical examples that further highlight this contrast?

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You said:

Yes, but also in the sense of not forsaking the middle ground of cultural difference.

ChatGPT said:

Good point. MAGA-influenced evangelicalism often interprets Ezekiel 25–32 in a way that forsakes any middle ground regarding cultural difference, seeing divine judgment as a model for how nations (or political movements) should respond to outsiders or those who do not conform.

No Middle Ground: The MAGA Approach to Cultural Difference

  1. Binary Thinking (God’s Side vs. the Enemy’s Side) – MAGA evangelicalism tends to see culture through an us-vs-them lens. Just as Ezekiel condemns Israel’s neighbors without much room for reconciliation, MAGA theology often portrays America’s cultural "enemies"—immigrants, LGBTQ+ people, progressives, or even moderate Christians—as inherently opposed to God's will. There is no room for pluralism or peaceful coexistence, only domination or exclusion.

  2. Theocracy and Divine Favor – The underlying assumption is that America, like ancient Israel, is uniquely chosen by God. This fuels a belief that those who oppose Christian nationalism are modern-day Moabites, Edomites, or Egyptians—deserving of judgment. Diversity is not seen as enriching but as a threat to purity.

  3. Militarized and Apocalyptic Thinking – Ezekiel's visions of conquest and destruction can reinforce the idea that cultural conflicts must be fought with the same intensity as spiritual warfare. Some MAGA adherents frame political battles as a fight for survival, justifying rhetoric and policies that suppress difference rather than engage with it.

In this reading, Ezekiel 25–32 becomes less about ancient historical events and more about justifying a cultural war where only one side—MAGA Christianity—can be legitimate. The middle ground is abandoned, and any attempt at cultural co-existence is viewed as weakness or compromise with evil.

Jesus explains how a theology of love
works in life and religion

You said:
Whereas Jesus addressed relational failing and atoning redemption by offering his own atoning work as the rock on which the church is built (Matthew 16.18). This is a far different approach to societal renewal than a religious burnt-earth war upon difference.

ChatGPT said:

Yes, exactly. Jesus' approach to societal renewal, as seen in Matthew 16:18, is built on relational transformation and redemption, not the violent destruction of difference.

Jesus’ Approach vs. MAGA’s Burnt-Earth War on Difference

  1. Building on Redemption vs. Destroying the "Other"Jesus calls for a community founded on love, forgiveness, and reconciliation. His "rock" is not political conquest but his own atoning work and the transformed relationships of his followers. In contrast, MAGA evangelicalism often sees cultural renewal as a war—where difference must be eliminated, not redeemed.

  2. Open Invitation vs. Rigid TheocracyJesus' church is open to all who follow him, transcending ethnic, national, and social boundaries (e.g., the Samaritan woman in John 4). MAGA evangelicalism, however, often operates as a theocratic exclusionary movement, defining Christianity in narrow, nationalistic, and ideological terms that reject outsiders.

  3. The Cross vs. the Sword – In Matthew 26:52, Jesus rebukes Peter for using violence, stating, "all who draw the sword will die by the sword." Yet, MAGA theology often embraces militant rhetoric, seeing itself as carrying out God’s judgment, rather than embracing Jesus’ call to self-sacrificial love.

  4. Prophetic Challenge vs. Political ControlJesus challenged religious and political leaders who used God’s name for power, while MAGA theology often fuses religion with state control, demanding cultural dominance rather than calling society to authentic repentance and justice.

In short, Jesus builds a church on transformed hearts, not a crusade against cultural difference, whereas MAGA evangelicalism often mirrors the violent, nationalistic worldview found in Ezekiel 25–32 rather than the relational renewal Jesus offers.

You said:
Matthew 28.19, Making disciples is God's loving approach to spiritual renewal... not religious jihadism.

ChatGPT said:

Yes, Matthew 28:19 ("Go therefore and make disciples of all nations...") presents God's approach to spiritual renewal through invitation and transformation, not coercion and destruction.

Discipleship vs. Religious Jihadism

  1. Invitation vs. Domination – Jesus commissions his followers to make disciples, not conquer nations. This process is relational, grounded in love, patience, and the Spirit’s work in human hearts. MAGA-influenced evangelicalism, however, often shifts toward coercion, where cultural and political dominance become substitutes for true spiritual renewal.

  2. Spiritual Authority vs. Political PowerIn Jesus’ model, renewal comes from teaching, baptizing, and walking with others in faith. It does not involve forcing conformity through legislation, violence, or exclusion. The MAGA approach, however, often mirrors religious jihadism—demanding external obedience, punishing dissent, and wielding state power to enforce a narrow vision of Christianity.

  3. Love of Enemies vs. Eradication of OppositionJesus taught to love and pray for enemies (Matthew 5:44), a stark contrast to the MAGA mindset that often seeks to crush political, religious, and cultural opponents. The Great Commission is an act of grace, not holy war.

Process Theology's View

Process Theology would emphasize that God’s love is persuasive, not coercive. Discipleship aligns with this because it involves freedom, relational growth, and ongoing transformation, not a one-time forced conversion or nationalist religious agenda.

Would you say this difference in approach explains why MAGA Christianity is so quick to demonize and attack "the other"?

You said:
Yes. Civil Constitutions are to ensure religious and cultural difference where civil dialogue and cooperative society building can proceed peaceably. Maga jihadism believe civil protections of difference is godless, pagan, forsaking Jesus' philosophy to be burden bearers and peacemakers. Please address further.

ChatGPT said:

You're absolutely right. Civil constitutions, especially in democratic societies, are designed to protect religious and cultural differences, fostering peace through dialogue and cooperation. However, MAGA-influenced evangelicalism often rejects these civil protections, seeing them as obstacles to establishing a so-called "Christian nation." This ironically betrays Jesus' own teachings on bearing burdens and making peace.

Jesus’ Call to Burden-Bearing and Peacemaking (Matthew 5:9, Galatians 6:2)

  1. Burden Bearers, Not Culture Warriors – Jesus and the early church emphasized serving others (Galatians 6:2, “Bear one another’s burdens”) rather than dominating them. The Sermon on the Mount (Matthew 5) calls for peacemakers, the meek, and those who suffer for righteousness—not those waging a holy war. MAGA’s approach, by contrast, sees secularism, multiculturalism, and pluralism as enemies, demanding dominance rather than dialogue.

  2. Peaceful Coexistence vs. Theocratic Control – Civil constitutions ensure that religious freedom applies to all, not just one group. This aligns with Jesus’ ethic of voluntary faith and moral persuasion, rather than state-enforced religion. MAGA theology, however, often rejects these principles, equating religious difference with moral decay and demanding the government impose Christian nationalism—a contradiction to Christ’s model of persuasion and love.

  3. Jesus and the State: “My Kingdom Is Not of This World” (John 18:36) – Jesus refused political theocracy, telling Pilate that his kingdom operates differently. MAGA’s vision of a theocratic America contradicts this, seeking political power to enforce their version of Christianity rather than trusting in Christ’s example of non-coercive transformation.

  4. Forsaking the Good Samaritan Ethic – One of Jesus’ clearest teachings on cultural difference is the Good Samaritan (Luke 10:25-37), where compassion, not conquest, defines godliness. MAGA-influenced Christianity often ignores or outright rejects this ethic when it comes to immigrants, Muslims, LGBTQ+ people, or any "outsiders" they see as a threat. This is a complete departure from Jesus' model of engaging with difference through love, not war.

The Tragic Irony of MAGA’s Rejection of Jesus’ Ethics

By opposing civil protections for difference, MAGA evangelicalism ironically undermines its own claims to Christian faithfulness:

  • It demands religious supremacy while ignoring Christ’s way of suffering servanthood (Philippians 2:5-8).
  • It treats political power as the solution while rejecting Christ’s refusal of worldly dominance (Matthew 4:8-10).
  • It fosters division and hatred rather than reconciliation and sacrificial love (Romans 12:18).

Conclusion: A Call Back to Christ

Jesus’ vision for renewal is discipleship, not domination. The gospel thrives through persuasion, love, and moral example—not government coercion or religious warfare. MAGA’s jihadist approach to cultural difference is a direct rejection of Christ’s mission, replacing the cross with the sword and the Great Commission with political conquest.

Would you like to explore how different historical theocratic movements have made similar mistakes?

You said:
No. Not at this time. All for now. I'm am going to reposition some our dialogue. Peace. Please file under "Process v Maga Theology".

ChatGPT said:

Got it! I'll file this under Process vs. MAGA Theology for future reference. Looking forward to your rewrite. Peace!