Quotes & Sayings


We, and creation itself, actualize the possibilities of the God who sustains the world, towards becoming in the world in a fuller, more deeper way. - R.E. Slater

There is urgency in coming to see the world as a web of interrelated processes of which we are integral parts, so that all of our choices and actions have [consequential effects upon] the world around us. - Process Metaphysician Alfred North Whitehead

Kurt Gödel's Incompleteness Theorem says (i) all closed systems are unprovable within themselves and, that (ii) all open systems are rightly understood as incomplete. - R.E. Slater

The most true thing about you is what God has said to you in Christ, "You are My Beloved." - Tripp Fuller

The God among us is the God who refuses to be God without us, so great is God's Love. - Tripp Fuller

According to some Christian outlooks we were made for another world. Perhaps, rather, we were made for this world to recreate, reclaim, redeem, and renew unto God's future aspiration by the power of His Spirit. - R.E. Slater

Our eschatological ethos is to love. To stand with those who are oppressed. To stand against those who are oppressing. It is that simple. Love is our only calling and Christian Hope. - R.E. Slater

Secularization theory has been massively falsified. We don't live in an age of secularity. We live in an age of explosive, pervasive religiosity... an age of religious pluralism. - Peter L. Berger

Exploring the edge of life and faith in a post-everything world. - Todd Littleton

I don't need another reason to believe, your love is all around for me to see. – Anon

Thou art our need; and in giving us more of thyself thou givest us all. - Khalil Gibran, Prayer XXIII

Be careful what you pretend to be. You become what you pretend to be. - Kurt Vonnegut

Religious beliefs, far from being primary, are often shaped and adjusted by our social goals. - Jim Forest

We become who we are by what we believe and can justify. - R.E. Slater

People, even more than things, need to be restored, renewed, revived, reclaimed, and redeemed; never throw out anyone. – Anon

Certainly, God's love has made fools of us all. - R.E. Slater

An apocalyptic Christian faith doesn't wait for Jesus to come, but for Jesus to become in our midst. - R.E. Slater

Christian belief in God begins with the cross and resurrection of Jesus, not with rational apologetics. - Eberhard Jüngel, Jürgen Moltmann

Our knowledge of God is through the 'I-Thou' encounter, not in finding God at the end of a syllogism or argument. There is a grave danger in any Christian treatment of God as an object. The God of Jesus Christ and Scripture is irreducibly subject and never made as an object, a force, a power, or a principle that can be manipulated. - Emil Brunner

“Ehyeh Asher Ehyeh” means "I will be that who I have yet to become." - God (Ex 3.14) or, conversely, “I AM who I AM Becoming.”

Our job is to love others without stopping to inquire whether or not they are worthy. - Thomas Merton

The church is God's world-changing social experiment of bringing unlikes and differents to the Eucharist/Communion table to share life with one another as a new kind of family. When this happens, we show to the world what love, justice, peace, reconciliation, and life together is designed by God to be. The church is God's show-and-tell for the world to see how God wants us to live as a blended, global, polypluralistic family united with one will, by one Lord, and baptized by one Spirit. – Anon

The cross that is planted at the heart of the history of the world cannot be uprooted. - Jacques Ellul

The Unity in whose loving presence the universe unfolds is inside each person as a call to welcome the stranger, protect animals and the earth, respect the dignity of each person, think new thoughts, and help bring about ecological civilizations. - John Cobb & Farhan A. Shah

If you board the wrong train it is of no use running along the corridors of the train in the other direction. - Dietrich Bonhoeffer

God's justice is restorative rather than punitive; His discipline is merciful rather than punishing; His power is made perfect in weakness; and His grace is sufficient for all. – Anon

Our little [biblical] systems have their day; they have their day and cease to be. They are but broken lights of Thee, and Thou, O God art more than they. - Alfred Lord Tennyson

We can’t control God; God is uncontrollable. God can’t control us; God’s love is uncontrolling! - Thomas Jay Oord

Life in perspective but always in process... as we are relational beings in process to one another, so life events are in process in relation to each event... as God is to Self, is to world, is to us... like Father, like sons and daughters, like events... life in process yet always in perspective. - R.E. Slater

To promote societal transition to sustainable ways of living and a global society founded on a shared ethical framework which includes respect and care for the community of life, ecological integrity, universal human rights, respect for diversity, economic justice, democracy, and a culture of peace. - The Earth Charter Mission Statement

Christian humanism is the belief that human freedom, individual conscience, and unencumbered rational inquiry are compatible with the practice of Christianity or even intrinsic in its doctrine. It represents a philosophical union of Christian faith and classical humanist principles. - Scott Postma

It is never wise to have a self-appointed religious institution determine a nation's moral code. The opportunities for moral compromise and failure are high; the moral codes and creeds assuredly racist, discriminatory, or subjectively and religiously defined; and the pronouncement of inhumanitarian political objectives quite predictable. - R.E. Slater

God's love must both center and define the Christian faith and all religious or human faiths seeking human and ecological balance in worlds of subtraction, harm, tragedy, and evil. - R.E. Slater

In Whitehead’s process ontology, we can think of the experiential ground of reality as an eternal pulse whereby what is objectively public in one moment becomes subjectively prehended in the next, and whereby the subject that emerges from its feelings then perishes into public expression as an object (or “superject”) aiming for novelty. There is a rhythm of Being between object and subject, not an ontological division. This rhythm powers the creative growth of the universe from one occasion of experience to the next. This is the Whiteheadian mantra: “The many become one and are increased by one.” - Matthew Segall

Without Love there is no Truth. And True Truth is always Loving. There is no dichotomy between these terms but only seamless integration. This is the premier centering focus of a Processual Theology of Love. - R.E. Slater

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Note: Generally I do not respond to commentary. I may read the comments but wish to reserve my time to write (or write from the comments I read). Instead, I'd like to see our community help one another and in the helping encourage and exhort each of us towards Christian love in Christ Jesus our Lord and Savior. - re slater

Saturday, March 8, 2025

Maga-Evangelicalism's Unloving Doctrines of God and People


A Study on the Profundity of
Maga-Evangelicalism

by R.E. Slater

"Religious beliefs, far from being primary, are often
shaped and adjusted by our social goals." - Jim Forest

A Study on the Profundity of Maga-Evangelicalism showing why it's style of Christianity naively handles the bible in its doctrines and interpretations. Consequently, it holds to an evil god rather than a Loving God because maga has no loving God theology. Only a god of war, wrath and judgment.

One can easily make the argument that the historic traditional church used societal outcome beliefs to shape civil laws as we are again seeing repeated by today's evangelical maga church under their applauded leader Donald Trump who is purposely destroying America.


The result? Maga civil law is showing itself to be religiously oppressive, brainwashing, harmful, and deadly. And all of this is based upon maga's misuse of biblical scriptures as seen in its Project 2025 contract produced by hyper-right maga counsel from a hyper-right bible which it purportly claims to understand - but doesn't when ignoring the bible's historical context and development.

More plainly, the bible maga preaches comes out in "cookie-cutter forms". Froms which removes a loving God theology for a wrathful and judging God found at the height of earlier syncretizing religious formations in ancient Israel's "prophetic" day.

R.E. Slater
March 7, 2025


The Evolution of God [from Polytheism to Monotheism]


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Naiviety in Maga-Evangelical Bible Circles

by R.E. Slater

When taking the Bible at face value by interpreting it literally and without serious critical engagement, naive hermenuetical interpretive traditions will always lead to unhelpful and personally, or societally, harmful conclusions.

I had mentioned this in an earlier post regarding the prophet Ezekiel's idea of a God which did evil and now inspires today's maga-evangelical church to do the same kind of evil upon society as it's imagined evil God had done evil in Israel's day.

However, contrary to evangelical dogma, a process view of God rejects evangelical teaching that God does evil by countering that God is always loving all the time and can do no evil.

If this is so, then maga beliefs must immediately stop, repent, and repair the harm and evil that it is doing.

Why? Because fundamentally, maga is misreading the Scriptures wrong-headedly - and then justifying it's misreadings by creating apologetic defenses for its purposeful naivety applied to the bible's collective narratives. Biblical narratives which at once are telling us how ancient peoples once thought of God and were trying to understand God's seemingly judgmental presence in their daily lives.

Often, ancient religious recitations about who and what God is have shown themselves to commonly agree to theologies of oppression and judgment predicated upon divine behaviour. Many an ancient cosmology has recanted it's national experiences as "walking a fine line" between fate or fortune at the hands of a god or gods. Israel's God seems little different in this respect.

But ancient wisdom may not necessarily be true as Jesus later told Israel's religious establishment. Jesus taught of a loving God as opposed to the priests and scribes who taught of a judging God. The years of Jesus' ministry were years of exampling and teaching a God of love. His theology is a loving God theology which center and content is now captured in a theology known as process theology. Process theology is contrary to maga evangelical theology fallen back upon Israel's older, errant theology of a God of evil, wrath and judgment.

R.E. Slater
March 7, 2025



Why feeding poor hungry children cannot be measured
by dollars but in healing societies of compassion.



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A Personal Soliloquy

by R.E. Slater

Perhaps Christians should remember that their part in doing evil is not something which can be so easily un-broken. Israel in its more recent modern history has shown itself to be highly unjust towards the people of Gaza for decades. And consequently, each ethnic group have reaped their sins upon their own heads for not loving and cooperating with one another.

We too easily forget that peacemaking and building healthy societies is extremely difficult. More so, that when doing evil things to innocents is first and foremost the breaking of societal trust with one another which can then quickly deform into lawlessness, evil and anarchy.

Being called to be Peacemakers has shown humanity to repeatedly defy, deny, and ignore its responsibilities... until the time comes when you and your tribe are oppressed, persecuted, harmed, murdered, and ruined.

Never take the calm of a peaceable society for granted. It's calm has come over decades and centuries of trying to find civil ways of living peaceably with difference with one another.

Difference is good if one begins on the basis that difference can be healthy and loving in a multiethnic, multi-pluralistic societal form.

However, individual oneness can be the subtractor to Peaceable Plurality unless it is tempered - tempered! - in peace and love.

R.E. Slater
March 8, 2025

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Maga-Christianity's Unloving
- and Unlovingly Applied -
Doctrines of God

by R.E. Slater

In the Book of Ezekiel, chapters 25-32 focus on God's judgment against the nations surrounding Israel. This would include Ammon, Moab, Edom, Philistia, Tyre, Sidon, and Egypt, for their actions against Israel and God's people. Pointedly, when maga-evangelical Christians read chapters and verses like these they believe themselves to be the persecuted instead of the persector oppressing and harming civil societies such as America's Constitutionally founded communities of unifying difference.  

Here's a more detailed outline of Ezekiel 25-32:

I. Judgment on the Nations (Ezekiel 25-32):

A. Prophecies Against Individual Nations:

1. Ammon (Ezekiel 25:1-7): Condemned for rejoicing over the destruction of Jerusalem and mocking the Israelites.

2. Moab (Ezekiel 25:8-11): Condemned for gloating over the destruction of Jerusalem.

3. Edom (Ezekiel 25:12-14): Condemned for rejoicing at Israel's misfortune and for their hatred of Israel.

4. Philistia (Ezekiel 25:15-17): Condemned for their actions against Israel.

5. Tyre (Ezekiel 26-28): Condemned for their pride, arrogance, and trade practices.
  • a. The Fall of Tyre (Ezekiel 26): God announces the destruction of Tyre by Nebuchadnezzar.
  • b. The Pride of Tyre (Ezekiel 27): Tyre's wealth and power are described, followed by God's judgment.
  • c. The Ruler of Tyre (Ezekiel 28:1-10): The king of Tyre is accused of arrogance and is compared to a fallen angel.
6. Sidon (Ezekiel 28:20-23): Sidon is condemned for its sins.

7. Egypt (Ezekiel 29-32): Condemned for its pride and idolatry, and its king is compared to a dragon.
  • a. The Fall of Egypt (Ezekiel 29): God announces the destruction of Egypt by Nebuchadnezzar.
  • b. The Death of the Pharaoh (Ezekiel 30): Egypt's king is described as a fallen leader.
  • c. The Destruction of Egypt (Ezekiel 31-32): Egypt's pride and downfall are described.

B. Themes of Judgment by God upon Israel's Enemies:

1. God's Sovereignty: God is the ultimate judge of all nations, not just Israel.

2. Justice: God will hold all nations accountable for their sins and actions.

3. Pride and Arrogance: God condemns the pride and arrogance of the nations, especially their rulers.

4. Rejoicing at Israel's Misfortune: God condemns those who rejoice at the destruction of Jerusalem and the suffering of God's people.

5. False Trust: God condemns those who place their trust in other nations rather than in Him.

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Expounding Ezekiel Properly

by R.E. Slater

Why Evangelical Maga Christianity is Naive - and Naively Misuses
the Bible  Regularly for It's Own Social Purposes and Faith-Causes

A processual view of God's judgment greatly alters what God is and does as ancient Israel believed about its God and how today's maga church similarly believes.

It also places the evangelical maga church, like that of the nation Israel, into the role of an evil doer when harming it's congregations and outsiders to itself by ungenerous, unjust and inequitable dogmatic beliefs and actions.

Why?

Because the controlling God of yesteryear's ancient beliefs - as ascribed in the bible - is statedly untrue of a loving God IF God is loving: "Murder, mayhem, and harm can never come from a loving God."

But by preaching a controlling God who purposely does evil - as seen in Israel's experience of God in Ezekiel - and as preached and believed in today's evangelical churches - tells us that a controlling church, just like it's controlling God, can and will do evil.

Ezekiel's message of divine vengeance doing evil simply tells us what Israel's beliefs were about God... BUT NOT WHAT OR WHO GOD ACTUALLY IS.

Why?

IF religious beliefs are evolving over time then the bible is a collection of those evolving beliefs about God... whether right or wrong.

Thusly, Israel's errant theology of God is statedly written in the bible for all to read... which doesn't mean that it is interpretively true of God but it does mean that it is experirntially true of ancient Israel's beliefs about God. Its the old story of one person experiencing evil misfortune while another experiences beneficial fate. How then might God be viewed between the two experiences?

Today, those beliefs about an evil God in the bible are insupportable under a loving God theology.

Examining Evil as Evil and Not of, or coming from, a loving God

If you do evil to others it can turn around and find you as well. In Processual Context this seems to be Ezekiel's belief. Thusly it can be said that evil cannot come by a loving God's redeeming hand but by humanity's own evil hand as processual human beings who are reaping the processual results for in-humane, unloving, behaviors, words and deeds.

Israel's God, like the evangelical church's God, can-and-will do evil because one suspects that evil was by Israel, or the church's, own hand. But a processual view of God using the same bible sees the error of that evangelical maga God theology.

We might more properly say, "Evil is its own reward." Similarly, love is IT's own reward.

Love does not do evil. Evil does not do love.

Which then is God?

And what kind of evil, controlling Sovereign inhabits this controlling God's Being?

If God is true by maga-evangelical standards of theology then the evil we see being done by the maga church to today's Constitutional societies of America - which also includes how the maga church treats the stranger, alien, and migrants of our lands - is also true of its own evil theology claiming to be loving but actually doing evil both to it's own congregations as well as its community neighbors around each maga-evangelical church campus.

Jesus told the Jews they got it backwards. Non-evangelical believers are telling maga'ites to cease their evil actions and to restore their evil actions back to love. 

The brokenness you've committed is very great and will be very difficult to now fix. Stop. Repent. Start loving. Cease the cycle of evil and become peacemakers.

God is love. God is not evil. Evil is evil. And doing evil is, well, evil.

R.E. Slater
March 8, 2025

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