Quotes & Sayings


We, and creation itself, actualize the possibilities of the God who sustains the world, towards becoming in the world in a fuller, more deeper way. - R.E. Slater

There is urgency in coming to see the world as a web of interrelated processes of which we are integral parts, so that all of our choices and actions have [consequential effects upon] the world around us. - Process Metaphysician Alfred North Whitehead

Kurt Gödel's Incompleteness Theorem says (i) all closed systems are unprovable within themselves and, that (ii) all open systems are rightly understood as incomplete. - R.E. Slater

The most true thing about you is what God has said to you in Christ, "You are My Beloved." - Tripp Fuller

The God among us is the God who refuses to be God without us, so great is God's Love. - Tripp Fuller

According to some Christian outlooks we were made for another world. Perhaps, rather, we were made for this world to recreate, reclaim, redeem, and renew unto God's future aspiration by the power of His Spirit. - R.E. Slater

Our eschatological ethos is to love. To stand with those who are oppressed. To stand against those who are oppressing. It is that simple. Love is our only calling and Christian Hope. - R.E. Slater

Secularization theory has been massively falsified. We don't live in an age of secularity. We live in an age of explosive, pervasive religiosity... an age of religious pluralism. - Peter L. Berger

Exploring the edge of life and faith in a post-everything world. - Todd Littleton

I don't need another reason to believe, your love is all around for me to see. – Anon

Thou art our need; and in giving us more of thyself thou givest us all. - Khalil Gibran, Prayer XXIII

Be careful what you pretend to be. You become what you pretend to be. - Kurt Vonnegut

Religious beliefs, far from being primary, are often shaped and adjusted by our social goals. - Jim Forest

We become who we are by what we believe and can justify. - R.E. Slater

People, even more than things, need to be restored, renewed, revived, reclaimed, and redeemed; never throw out anyone. – Anon

Certainly, God's love has made fools of us all. - R.E. Slater

An apocalyptic Christian faith doesn't wait for Jesus to come, but for Jesus to become in our midst. - R.E. Slater

Christian belief in God begins with the cross and resurrection of Jesus, not with rational apologetics. - Eberhard Jüngel, Jürgen Moltmann

Our knowledge of God is through the 'I-Thou' encounter, not in finding God at the end of a syllogism or argument. There is a grave danger in any Christian treatment of God as an object. The God of Jesus Christ and Scripture is irreducibly subject and never made as an object, a force, a power, or a principle that can be manipulated. - Emil Brunner

“Ehyeh Asher Ehyeh” means "I will be that who I have yet to become." - God (Ex 3.14) or, conversely, “I AM who I AM Becoming.”

Our job is to love others without stopping to inquire whether or not they are worthy. - Thomas Merton

The church is God's world-changing social experiment of bringing unlikes and differents to the Eucharist/Communion table to share life with one another as a new kind of family. When this happens, we show to the world what love, justice, peace, reconciliation, and life together is designed by God to be. The church is God's show-and-tell for the world to see how God wants us to live as a blended, global, polypluralistic family united with one will, by one Lord, and baptized by one Spirit. – Anon

The cross that is planted at the heart of the history of the world cannot be uprooted. - Jacques Ellul

The Unity in whose loving presence the universe unfolds is inside each person as a call to welcome the stranger, protect animals and the earth, respect the dignity of each person, think new thoughts, and help bring about ecological civilizations. - John Cobb & Farhan A. Shah

If you board the wrong train it is of no use running along the corridors of the train in the other direction. - Dietrich Bonhoeffer

God's justice is restorative rather than punitive; His discipline is merciful rather than punishing; His power is made perfect in weakness; and His grace is sufficient for all. – Anon

Our little [biblical] systems have their day; they have their day and cease to be. They are but broken lights of Thee, and Thou, O God art more than they. - Alfred Lord Tennyson

We can’t control God; God is uncontrollable. God can’t control us; God’s love is uncontrolling! - Thomas Jay Oord

Life in perspective but always in process... as we are relational beings in process to one another, so life events are in process in relation to each event... as God is to Self, is to world, is to us... like Father, like sons and daughters, like events... life in process yet always in perspective. - R.E. Slater

To promote societal transition to sustainable ways of living and a global society founded on a shared ethical framework which includes respect and care for the community of life, ecological integrity, universal human rights, respect for diversity, economic justice, democracy, and a culture of peace. - The Earth Charter Mission Statement

Christian humanism is the belief that human freedom, individual conscience, and unencumbered rational inquiry are compatible with the practice of Christianity or even intrinsic in its doctrine. It represents a philosophical union of Christian faith and classical humanist principles. - Scott Postma

It is never wise to have a self-appointed religious institution determine a nation's moral code. The opportunities for moral compromise and failure are high; the moral codes and creeds assuredly racist, discriminatory, or subjectively and religiously defined; and the pronouncement of inhumanitarian political objectives quite predictable. - R.E. Slater

God's love must both center and define the Christian faith and all religious or human faiths seeking human and ecological balance in worlds of subtraction, harm, tragedy, and evil. - R.E. Slater

In Whitehead’s process ontology, we can think of the experiential ground of reality as an eternal pulse whereby what is objectively public in one moment becomes subjectively prehended in the next, and whereby the subject that emerges from its feelings then perishes into public expression as an object (or “superject”) aiming for novelty. There is a rhythm of Being between object and subject, not an ontological division. This rhythm powers the creative growth of the universe from one occasion of experience to the next. This is the Whiteheadian mantra: “The many become one and are increased by one.” - Matthew Segall

Without Love there is no Truth. And True Truth is always Loving. There is no dichotomy between these terms but only seamless integration. This is the premier centering focus of a Processual Theology of Love. - R.E. Slater

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Note: Generally I do not respond to commentary. I may read the comments but wish to reserve my time to write (or write from the comments I read). Instead, I'd like to see our community help one another and in the helping encourage and exhort each of us towards Christian love in Christ Jesus our Lord and Savior. - re slater

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Friday, November 22, 2024

Reading the book of Revelation for Today




Reading the book of Revelation for Today

by R.E. Slater

I've been struggling lately with the too common reading of the book of Revelation by unwary and unwise Christians. Last week I had provided a number of voices waring of maga's full roar into neoliberalism which has taken bloom under our last 2024 election vouchsafing the wealthy's unmitigated control of the processes of democracy. A democracy corrupted to speak for the wealthy and not for the common man as it was intended in the early days of America's founding fathers.

Which is where the book of Revelation comes in to tell of the same occurrence in chapter 5 between the "Whore of Babylon" and the consequential evil disruption of justice for the people's of the earth. Moreover, this same wilful disruption has distorted the Genesis reading of man's "dominance" over the earth unto its prophesied usury and demise as any whoring nation might do when disputing it's complicity in the lack of healing of land and innocents. Not only then is neoliberalism's ugly rule abandoning just-ful public policy for all but it's same actions have been exacerbated under today's 21st century form of capitalism as it greedily devours the earth unto its own profane purposes.

Thus and thus is my process theological reading of the book of Revelation of it's dire eschatological warnings and assurance of doom if left unheeded coming fully due under maga-Christianity's blithe disregard for it's own biblical scriptures as well as it's disregard for it's own profane and culpable actions under "the man of sin."

Ironically, maga Christians seem always to place themselves as the "innocents" in the story of Revelation but it is exactly untrue as the bible points once again to the church's evil complicity in it's own disputed uncaring inactions to democracy's perjurious fall including its own overall deaf, dumb and blind "gospels" of hate and bigotry not only upon the people's of this earth but to it's very injustices waged against the earth itself (as attested to by Trumpian 2024 cabinet selections and maga's proposed propaganda 2025).

So then, as any good-willed process theological prophet will do, I have felt impelled by the Spirit of God to again forewarn of our cultural demise even as we leap into our own destruction with both feet unrealizing that we are the very people warned to not participate in revelational Armageddon bringing not only our nation, but the nations of the world, to their utter end (which war and shunned environmental policy certainly will do).

How curious then that we read of God's forewarnings in Revelation of our purposeful destruction underpaid by our blinded hearts thinking it is the wicked of the world being judged and not we ourselves for our own sins created by our wicked hands. It is the height of audacity that Christians always believe they are not complicit in the agony of others as seen throughout the centuries when the heathen church disregards Jesus' mission to love one another by bringing sword and famine, storm and flood, upon the innocents of the earth. From the dark Crusades to maga's own ruinous actions currently intended upon migrants, women, children, and the trans-sex, Christianity pretends to wash it's bloody hands of all guilt in the immediate portending injustices being wrought against humanity and the earth. It is as if the bible the church reads is like a foreign language mirroring our sin even as we look into that same unspeaking mirror with the hallowed eyes of the self-righteousness covered in overweening pride and falsified sallow agency.

Thus speaks the bible to those who would lift themselves up to rule this earth believing they are guiltless and without fault yet have become the very ones Jesus came to overthrow and teach another way of love, mercy, forgiveness, healing, and rebirth.

R.E. Slater
November 22, 2024




The Scroll with Seven Seals

5 I saw [a]in the right hand of Him who sat on the throne a [b]scroll written inside and on the back, sealed up with seven seals. 2 And I saw a strong angel proclaiming with a loud voice, “Who is worthy to open the scroll and to break its seals?” 3 And no one in heaven or on the earth or under the earth was able to open the scroll or to look into it. 4 Then I began to weep greatly because no one was found worthy to open the scroll or to look into it. 5 And one of the elders *said to me, “Stop weeping; behold, the Lion that is from the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, has overcome so as to be able to open the scroll and its seven seals.”

6 And I saw [c]between the throne (with the four living creatures) and the elders a Lamb standing, as if slaughtered, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are [d]the seven spirits of God sent out into all the earth. 7 And He came and took the scroll out of the right hand of Him who sat on the throne. 8 When He had taken the scroll, the four living creatures and the twenty-four elders fell down before the Lamb, each one holding a harp and golden bowls full of incense, which are the prayers of the [e]saints. 9 And they *sang a new song, saying,
“Worthy are You to take the scroll and to break its seals; for You were slaughtered, and You purchased people for God with Your blood from every tribe, language, people, and nation.

10 You have made them into a kingdom and priests to our God, and they will reign upon the earth.”
Angels Exalt the Lamb

11 Then I looked, and I heard the voices of many angels around the throne and the living creatures and the elders; and the number of them was [f]myriads of myriads, and thousands of thousands, 12 saying with a loud voice,
“Worthy is the Lamb that was slaughtered to receive power, wealth, wisdom, might, honor, glory, and blessing.”
13 And I heard every created thing which is in heaven, or on the earth, or under the earth, or on the sea, and all the things in them, saying,
“To Him who sits on the throne and to the Lamb be the blessing, the honor, the glory, and the dominion forever and ever.”
14 And the four living creatures were saying, “Amen.” And the elders fell down and worshiped.

 

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Drawing on John's prophetic Apocalypse, theologian Catherine Keller unveils a "dreamreading" of our current global crisis—particularly the threat of climate change and ecological devastation. She shows that John's gospel is not a foretelling of future events, but a parable of our present reality, which exposes the deep spiritual roots of these threats.
[Excerpt]
The political representatives elected to protect our democratic rights and assure social stability by checking the power of transnational corporations have failed to fulfill their duties. Under the neoliberal order which has held sway since the 1970s (when declining growth, growing inequality, and rising debt put an end to the post-war alliance between capital and democracy).... - CK

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“Facing Apocalypse: Climate, Democracy,
and Other Last Chances”

by Catherine Keller


Let us first recall why Keller has chosen to “dreamread” John of Patmos’ Book of Revelation. As a process theologian, it is no surprise that she would be interested in a Biblical text. But her purpose is not merely to read John’s missive back into its 1st century CE historical context. Nor is her intent to read it as a literal prediction of a divinely determined future. Her aim, rather, is to unveil the eternal patterns of history that reverberate through John’s day into our own. Keller is dreamreading the “ancient future” of humanity, imperiled by imperial excesses and injustices then as now. She turns to Revelation as a polysemic source of dis-closure, that is, as a reminder that the future remains open-ended, its promise or peril awaiting our response to the signs of the times. Keller reads the book’s many internal contradictions as a call to liberate ourselves, through the work of shared mourning and collective uplift, from any sense of scripts already written so that we may arrive fully in the potent present, capable of facing what MLK, Jr. called the “fierce urgency of now.” The book she dreamreads remains relevant to our situation today because, with both oppressive and progressive effects, it has inspired martyrs, emperors, and enslaved alike to shape and reshape the course of civilization for millennia.

In Chapter 5, Keller interprets John’s misogynistic vision of the luxuriously adorned “Whore of Babylon” astride a seven-headed, ten-horned scarlet beast as a metaphor (or “metaforce”) expressive of the unholy matrimony of imperial power and global economy. The beast is said to turn on the “Mother of Whores,” just as imperial superpowers have been known to contradict themselves by “devouring the very flesh, resources, [and] labor, [they] live from” (111). John details the commodities that the “merchants of the earth” of his day buy and sell along their Mediterranean sea routes. These include not only wine, pearls, silk, and spices, but “human bodies and souls” (Rev. 18:11-13). Keller reminds us that “Rome two thousand years ago operated the largest market in chattel slaves on the planet,” adding the disturbing facts that “civilization as we know it is based upon the labor of unthinkable numbers of slaves,” and, even today, long after the institution has been outlawed in most nations, tens of millions of mostly women and children remain in chains, with billions more stuck in what amounts to wage slavery (114).

Keller then turns to a critique, informed by Revelation, of our insatiable neoliberal/neo-imperial capitalist political economy. In our day, as in John’s, the power of unchecked consumerism does not simply fulfill desires, it produces them—or in terms of John’s pornographic metaforce, it “seduces”: “the graphic of the great whore signifies a commodification of self, body and soul, on the part of imperial subjectsnot just their objects” (117). In other words, the power of capitalism is not simply “out there,” imposed upon us as the will of an imperial army may be. The truly insidious thing about an economy of greed is how it infects our very selves, our sense of self-worth and well-being. The engine of our economy depends upon knowing no limits, on the feeling of lack, the constant need of more income, more land, more labor, more stuff. The political representatives elected to protect our democratic rights and assure social stability by checking the power of transnational corporations have failed to fulfill their duties. Under the neoliberal order which has held sway since the 1970s (when declining growth, growing inequality, and rising debt put an end to the post-war alliance between capital and democracy), the role of the state has been coopted, so that it now “[offers] political support, tax benefits, police and military backing for the economy, which in return rewards the politicians it rides” (121). Capital cannot help itself, it commodifies everything: land, labor, politicians, and like John’s Porn Queen, even itself, undermining its own conditions of continuance.

Building on the German economic sociologist Wolfgang Streek, Keller introduces the situation in present day Western democracies as a struggle between two constituencies, the “nation state people” and the “international market people” (122). Tensions are rising as inequality reaches levels not seen since ancient Rome (Keller cites studies showing that, within the US, the ratio between the richest 100 households and the bottom 90% is about 108,000 to 1, roughly equivalent to that between a senator and a slave at the height of the Roman empire). The rise of Trump and other demagogues around the world is symptomatic of income inequality and a growing rift between “nationalists” (who are mostly white and often rural) and “globalists” (often urban and somewhat more diverse). Rather than demonize the supporters of Trump (many of whom are evangelical Christians inspired by their own, albeit more spurious readings of Revelation), Keller acknowledges the ambiguities and contradictions of our times. Trump’s presidency was itself an outcome, and perhaps signals also the ending, of American neoliberalism (126). The anger that helped lift him into office stemmed from racist animosity but also the complete lack of concern shown by (neo)liberals for many working class people as the post-war industrial economy was dismantled and its jobs sent over seas. Keller admits that John’s visions are indeed suggestive of a great battle against the global elites who profit from such outsourcing. But the contradictions intensify, as Republicans blame wildfires in the Western US on environmentalists instead of climate change, while Democrats blame Trump’s election on Russian memes instead of acknowledging the impact of global trade on the lives of those Hillary Clinton dismissed as “deplorables.” Keller also warns against conflating jet-setting cosmopolitan neoliberalism with the radically intersectional cosmopolitics that resists with equal vigor both the “aspirational fascism” of nationalists and the insatiable extractivism of globalists (124).

In the end, Keller returns to the beginning, to the “dominion” clause in the Genesis creation narrative that has stirred so much debate among environmentalists and religious scholars. It is becoming increasingly clear to anyone paying attention that “the matter of the earth will not neatly reduce to the stuff of dollar signs…Matter Strikes Back” (130). In other words, all of humanity is beginning to experience the blowback from centuries of unchecked extraction and pollution. Witness “Gaia’s Revenge,” as James Lovelock put it. All of humanity suffers from this blowback, the conspicuously consuming and technologically insulated wealthy Western peoples as well as the Global South, where billions of people are eager for justice to be restored despite being first in line to face rising sea levels and changing climates.

The drive to dominate the Earth among the Biblical peoples has deep roots in a perhaps partial reading of the story of creation: “What a beastly irony: somehow human-godlikeness got taken as ‘go for it, godly world masters: use up the earth, waste its creatures” (131). Keller closes chapter five by offering a re-reading of the first book, reminding that Elohim creates not from nothing (creatio ex nihilo) but from “the deep” (creatio ex profundis). Further, God says that every creature, and creation itself, is good, indicating to Keller that we who are made in God’s image “are called to emulate that love of the material universe” (131). (For more on Keller’s theopoetic reading of Genesis, be sure to check out her book Face of the Deep: A Theology of Becoming).


In Chapter 6, Keller explores the “poetics of Hebrew hope” that shaped John’s 1st century religious context and that have continued to reverberate through the millennia. The earliest Christian communities suffered disappointment after their messiah was crucified by the empire they so despised. They waited for a second coming, but Keller points out that no such “coming again” is mentioned in the Bible. Rather, despite the persistence of imperial rule and the increasingly violent persecution of his followers, Christ is signaled as “present” (parousia) rather than still to come (135). Keller goes on to chronicle the uses and abuses of Revelation. In the 2nd century CE, the African theologian Tertullian, emboldened by John’s text, attempted to create some breathing room between politics and religion by calling upon Rome to protect religious freedom (144). Eventually, Emperor Constantine would answer this call, but only at the cost of the imperialization of Christianity. The anti-imperialist egalitarian community Jesus had inspired thus transformed into the official religion of Rome. Still, Tertullian’s call would ring true thousands of years later, inspiring the liberation of slaves in the Americas. In the 11th century CE, Pope Urban II’s holy crusades, inspired by the bloody battles of John’s visions, unified a war torn Europe against a common Muslim enemy. A century later, European Christendom would face internal dissensions again, as heterodox communities perceived the growing wealth of the Vatican through the lens of John’s Great Whore (149). The monk Joachim of Fiore declared the coming “Age of Spirit” when the Church hierarchy would be dissolved, all property would be held in common, and everyone would have direct access to the divine. In 1517, Martin Luther nailed his 95 theses to the doors of All Saint’s Church in Wittenberg, thus initiating the Protestant revolt against the excesses of the Catholic Church. Luther memed scenes from John’s Revelation by portraying the Pope as the Whore of Babylon. Included in his German translation of the Bible was a drawing of the Mother of Whores wearing the papal tiara (151). The Thirty Years War to follow was the bloodiest in European history. Colored version of the Whore of Babylon illustration from Martin Luther’s 1534 translation of the Bible

Keller chronicles these events to make clear that “the history of collective resistance to oppression is no less an effect of the Apocalypse than is the oppression itself” (155). Indeed, Jewish messianism leaves its traces in all modern progressive movements on behalf of justice. Keller says that the progressive left must grieve the “totalitarian traumatisms” and “messianic disappointment” of 20th century state communism, turning elsewhere for its (more intersectional, more cosmopolitical and multispecies) political projects (158). While the right appears more unified, and thus more poised to take power, it is “precisely because of its pluralist and planetary proclivities [that] the progressive spectrum is more vulnerable than the right to contradictions between its ever-apocalyptic priorities” (161). She councils our “cosmically entangled, dangerously gifted, achingly diverse” species to take time for griefwork, to mourn all that has been and is being lost. And she warns us to remain ever vigilant against the temptation to allow the rage that arises in us to forego its righteousness by collapsing into a vengeful “we-good, you-bad” dichotomy. The split between good and evil people only fuels more cycles of revenge. If God is love (as the other John said in his gospel), and if justice is what love looks like in public (as Cornel West puts it), then only our love of each other (enemies included) and of all creation can hold open the possibility of a future worth living in. What kind of future will that be? In the final chapters of her book, Keller offers some possibilities…

Matthew Segall
July 11, 2021

The Roots of Christian Nationalism Go Back Further Than You Think


A painting entitled, “The Landing of Columbus,” by Albert Bobbett (1877) of Christopher Columbus arriving in the Americas. Sponsored by Ferdinand and Isabella of Spain, Italian navigator and colonist Columbus set out to discover a westward route to Asia. He landed on the Caribbean island of Hispaniola, claiming it for Spain. The priests who accompanied him forcibly converted large numbers of the indigenous population to Christianity. |  The Print Collector—Getty Images

The Roots of Christian Nationalism
Go Back Further Than You Think

August 31, 2023 7:00 AM EDT

Jones is the president and founder of PRRI and the New York Times bestselling author of the The Hidden Roots of White Supremacy and the Path to a Shared American Future as well as White Too Long: The Legacy of White Supremacy in American Christianity, which won a 2021 American Book Award. He writes a weekly newsletter at https://www.whitetoolong.net/.

Across the last few decades in the U.S., we have experienced widespread debates and even violent conflicts over American history. Battles like these typically erupt during times of social change, when cultural convulsions shake the foundations of old ways of knowing and living. Identity, rather than policy, drives divisions. History becomes the new front line in the culture wars, as claims about who we are as a nation inevitably turn on competing narratives about when and how we arrived at this place.

The term “white Christian nationalism” has recently emerged in the social sciences and the media as a way of describing the worldview that has burst onto the public stage with Trumpism and the “Make America Great Again” movement. The toxic blend of ethno-religious identity politics was reflected in the prayers and religious symbols participants carried at the U.S. Capitol insurrection on January 6, 2021, and it has become central to the trajectory of the contemporary Republican Party, two thirds of whom identify as white and Christian.

But if we see these recent trends against the long backdrop of western history, we can see that the phenomenon this term describes has far deeper roots than the post-Obama MAGA backlash. Our two political parties are increasingly animated by two starkly conflicting moral visions that have struggled for ascendancy since the first Europeans landed on these shores five centuries ago. Is America a divinely ordained promised land for European Christians, or is America a pluralistic democracy where all stand on equal footing as citizens? Most Americans embrace the latter vision. But a desperate, defensive, mostly white Christian minority continue to cling to the former.

To fully understand the deep roots of today’s white Christian nationalism, we need to go back at least to 1493—not the year Christopher Columbus “sailed the ocean blue,” but the year in which he returned to a hero’s welcome in Spain, bringing with him gold, brightly colored parrots, and nearly a dozen captive Indigenous people. It was also the year he was commissioned to return to the Americas with a much larger fleet of 17 ships, nearly 1,500 men, and more than a dozen priests to speed the conversion of Indigenous people who inhabited what he, along with King Ferdinand and Queen Isabella, still believed were Asian shores.

The return of Columbus in 1493 also precipitated one of the most fateful but unacknowledged theological developments in the history of the western Christian Church: the creation of what has come to be known as the Doctrine of Discovery. Established in a series of 15th-century papal bulls (official edicts that carry the full weight of church and papal authority), the Doctrine claims that European civilization and western Christianity are superior to all other cultures, races, and religions. From this premise, it follows that domination and colonial conquest were merely the means of improving, if not the temporal, then the eternal lot of Indigenous peoples. So conceived, no earthly atrocities could possibly tilt the scales of justice against these immeasurable goods.

The Doctrine of Discovery merged the interests of European imperialism, including the African slave trade, with Christian missionary zeal. Dum Diversas, the initial edict that laid the theological and political foundations for the Doctrine, was issued by Pope Nicholas V on June 18, 1452. It explicitly granted Portuguese king Alfonso V the following rights:

“To invade, search out, capture, vanquish, and subdue all Saracens [Muslims] and pagans whatsoever, and other enemies of Christ wheresoever placed, and the kingdoms, dukedoms, principalities, dominions, possessions, and all movable and immovable goods whatsoever held and possessed by them and to reduce their persons to perpetual slavery.”

This papal decree, and others that extended and developed its principles, provided the moral and religious justification for an unfettered European colonial race for “undiscovered lands” and fertilized the blossoming African slave trade. The most relevant papal edict for the American context was the bull Inter Caetera, issued by Pope Alexander VI in May 1493, with the express purpose of validating Spain’s ownership rights of lands in the Americas following the voyages of Columbus the year before. It praised Columbus and again affirmed the church’s blessing of and interest in political conquest, “that in our times especially the Catholic faith and the Christian religion be exalted and be everywhere increased and spread, that the health of souls be cared for and that barbarous nations be overthrown and brought to the faith itself.”

While the Doctrine of Discovery has escaped scrutiny by most white scholars and theologians, Indigenous people and scholars of color have long been testifying to these Christian roots of white supremacy, while dying from and living with their damaging effects. Indigenous scholars such as the late Vine Deloria Jr. (Lakota, Standing Rock Sioux), Robert J. Miller (Eastern Shawnee of Oklahoma), and Steven T. Newcomb (Shawnee/Lenape) have been highlighting, for over 50 years now, the centrality of this critical theological and political turn.

As I’ve continued my own reeducation journey over the last 10 years, I have come to consider the Doctrine of Discovery as a kind of Rosetta Stone for understanding the deep structure of the European political and religious worldviews we have inherited in this country. The Doctrine of Discovery furnished the foundational lie that America was “discovered” and enshrined the noble innocence of “pioneers” in the story we, white Christian Americans, have told about ourselves. Ideas such as Manifest Destiny, America as a city on a hill, or America as a new Zion all sprouted from the seed that was planted in 1493. This sense of divine entitlement, of European Christian chosenness, has shaped the worldview of most white Americans and thereby influenced key events, policies, and laws 
throughout American history.


Courtesy of Simon & Schuster/ Robert P. Jones


The contemporary currency of this worldview is reflected in the telling results of a 2023 Christian Nationalism Survey, conducted by PRRI in partnership with the Brookings Institution: Do you agree or disagree that “God intended America to be a new promised land where European Christians could create a society that could be an example to the rest of the world.” The survey found that while only 3 in 10 Americans agreed with this statement, majorities of Republicans (52%) and white evangelical Protestants (56%) affirmed it.

Moreover, the survey found that among white Americans today, this belief in America as a divinely ordained white Christian nation—one that has blessed so much brutality in our history—is strongly linked to denials of structural racism, anti-immigrant sentiment, antisemitism, anti-LGBTQ+ sentiment, support for patriarchal gender roles, and even support for political violence.

The contemporary white Christian nationalist movement flows directly from a cultural stream that has run through this continent since the first Europeans arrived five centuries ago. The photographs of the insurrectionists storming the U.S. Capitol on January 6, 2021, bear an uncanny resemblance to the painting of Hernando de Soto marshaling Christian symbols to claim Indigenous lands for Spain on May 8, 1541, which still hangs prominently in the Rotunda of that same building. On the Capitol steps, a massive wooden cross was erected, standards emblazoned with the name of Jesus were flown, and Biblical passages were read. Hands were raised in both prayer and violence. Seen in this light, the symbols brandished by the insurrectionists were not incidental; they were the centuries-old ritual implements of the Doctrine of Discovery, summoned to do the work they have always done.

Our current conflicts and contradictions are clear signs that we are experiencing a significant new moment in our nation’s history. If we are to get our collective bearings, we must be able to see that the histories of oppression in our country flow from the same source. The compartmentalization of history focused on the plight of specific oppressed groups—the genocide and displacement of Native Americans or the enslavement and lynching of African Americans—has some advantages for specific people groups, insofar as it centers their struggle for justice. But the real beneficiaries of such siloed history are white Christian people. These stories, told in isolation, fracture the historical gaze among the victims of violence, theft, slavery, and oppression. Even well-intentioned accounts, told in this way, encourage a partial reckoning. These fragmented narratives demarcate America’s so-called “Indian problem” and so-called “Negro problem”—as even well-meaning whites historically referred to them—as distant islands, neither one visible from the shores of the other. But if we do the hard work of pushing upriver, we find, at the headwaters, the white Christian problem.

In many ways, this truth has always been glaringly apparent. But for those of us who are white and Christian, our precarious position has historically required that we remain vigilantly ignorant of our own origin story while demanding the acquiescence of others in this conspiracy. Every map of every U.S. state is a living witness to our massive land theft and occupation. Yet, up until very recently, history books have been full of the lies necessary to defend an impossibly innocent and glorious past. The crimes were so monstrous and the evidence so near at hand that we desperately built theologies, philosophies, and entire cultural worlds designed to obscure the facts and to produce, propagate, and protect these mythic origins. This worldview washed over our churches and seeped into our sermons, liturgies, and hymnals. It created its own grammar that renders the most clarion testimonies of our accusers silent. Euphemisms like “explorer,” “pioneer,” and “homesteader” created a respectable veneer that smoothed over the jagged valence of terms like “invader,” “occupier,” and “colonizer.” The ubiquitous use of the passive voice in our histories protected responsible subjects. We were so successful in masking the truth that even one of our most enlightened artists could sing to us, without a pang of conscience, “This Land Is Your Land.”

Here is the question that must illuminate the path forward for us and our children: How can we meaningfully respond to being beneficiaries of a crime so plain it cannot be denied, and so large it can never be fully righted?

Indeed, the challenge before us is formidable. To account for the lives, land, and labor that have been stolen, we will need to relinquish the ethno-religious hierarchies embedded in the Doctrine of Discovery. And we’ll need a moral imagination that is not amnesic, one that will hold on to the memory of the systemic injustices that have accrued to Black and Indigenous people and their forebears.

We’ll also need to expand our vocabulary. For example, while reparations may be the right term to describe what justice looks like for African Americans who are descendants of enslaved people and who have experienced generations of disenfranchisement by discriminatory U.S. laws, this term may not capture what Native Americans want and deserve. Here, restitution may be a more apt response. As the American Indian Movement and more recently the #LandBack movement have insisted, at root, justice toward Native Americans cannot be met simply with monetary payments; it must be worked out in the context of honoring the promises in U.S. government treaties regarding land and sovereignty.

We white Christians no longer represent the majority of Americans. We are no longer capable of setting the nation’s course by sheer cultural and political dominance. But there are still more than enough of us to decisively derail the future of democracy in America. If we wish to do otherwise, we can no longer disingenuously pretend that democracy and the Doctrine of Discovery are, or ever were, compatible. We can no longer pay tribute to one while benefiting from the other. We must choose. And if we choose democracy, it will require more than just confession by an unflinching few. It will require joining the work already underway to repair the damage done by this malignant cultural legacy. Through that transformative engagement, we might finally illuminate the path that leads to a shared American future.
*Excerpt adapted from The Hidden Roots of White Supremacy and a Path to a Shared American Future by Robert P. Jones, published by Simon & Schuster on September 5, 2023. Copyright © 2023 by Robert P. Jones. 

Friday, November 8, 2024

ChatGPT: Benchmark Comparisons re: Trump v Biden Administrations

 

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ChatGPT: Benchmark Comparisons re:
2016 Trump v 2020 Biden Administrations

To Be Used v Trump's Second Term (2024-2028)

Question
Please list in order of significance the pros and cons of trumps 2016-2020 term...

ChatGPT said:

Here is an overview of the pros and cons of Donald Trump's presidency (2016-2020), organized roughly by significance based on widely noted impacts. These are intended to be impartial observations and reflect areas highlighted by analysts, historians, and media coverage.

Pros

  1. Economic Growth (Pre-Pandemic)

    • Pro: The U.S. saw a strong economy pre-COVID-19, with GDP growth, record low unemployment rates (including for Black and Hispanic communities), and gains in the stock market. Tax cuts and deregulation were credited by supporters for spurring growth.
    • Con: Critics argue the growth disproportionately benefited the wealthy, increasing the federal deficit, and that economic gains were consistent with trends before his presidency.
  2. Judicial Appointments

    • Pro: Trump successfully appointed three Supreme Court justices and over 200 federal judges, significantly shifting the judiciary towards conservative leanings, impacting legal interpretations for decades.
    • Con: Some saw this as a polarizing move, potentially endangering certain established precedents (e.g., reproductive rights) and argued it favored ideology over balance.
  3. Criminal Justice Reform

    • Pro: The First Step Act, a bipartisan criminal justice reform law, aimed to reduce recidivism and lower certain prison sentences.
    • Con: Critics note systemic issues remain largely unaddressed and some felt the administration’s overall tone on law and order contradicted broader criminal justice reform.
  4. Foreign Policy - Middle East

    • Pro: Trump brokered normalization deals between Israel and several Arab states (Abraham Accords), marking significant regional diplomacy.
    • Con: Detractors highlight that other moves, such as pulling out of the Iran nuclear deal, raised tensions, while broader Middle Eastern policy lacked consistency.
  5. Immigration Policies

    • Pro: Trump focused heavily on immigration control, arguing it protected American jobs and security, with policies like "Remain in Mexico" and an emphasis on border security.
    • Con: His policies faced significant criticism for perceived human rights abuses, such as family separations at the border, and were viewed as hostile and inhumane by many.
  6. Trade Policy and Tariffs

    • Pro: Trump took a strong stance against China with tariffs, aiming to address trade imbalances, intellectual property theft, and perceived unfair practices.
    • Con: The trade war hurt many American farmers and manufacturers due to retaliatory tariffs, increased costs for consumers, and skepticism about long-term efficacy.
  7. Regulatory Reductions

    • Pro: The administration cut numerous regulations, claiming to improve business efficiency and economic growth.
    • Con: Critics argue many environmental and safety protections were rolled back, endangering health and ecosystems in pursuit of short-term gains.
  8. Handling of COVID-19

    • Pro: The administration spearheaded Operation Warp Speed, accelerating the development and distribution of COVID-19 vaccines.
    • Con: Trump's pandemic response was widely criticized as disorganized and downplaying the severity of the virus, leading to inconsistent policies and public health outcomes.
  9. Tax Cuts and Jobs Act (2017)

    • Pro: Cut taxes for corporations and many individuals, argued to have increased investment and disposable income.
    • Con: Critics argue the tax cuts largely benefited corporations and wealthier Americans, exacerbating income inequality and increasing the national debt.
  10. America First Approach

  • Pro: Focused on nationalism and self-interest, seeking to reduce U.S. involvement in foreign conflicts and renegotiate trade deals (e.g., NAFTA replaced by USMCA).
  • Con: Critics assert this isolationist approach weakened alliances and damaged U.S. global standing, creating potential long-term diplomatic repercussions.

This list covers a mix of policy initiatives and notable themes. Interpretations often vary based on political and ideological perspectives, so these pros and cons reflect broader public and historical debates surrounding his presidency.

Question
how did President Biden's following four years between 2020-2024 help or harm trumpian policies?

ChatGPT said:

Here's a look at how President Joe Biden's presidency from 2020 to 2024 impacted the policies established during Donald Trump's term. Biden's actions and policies often sought to roll back or reform some of Trump's key initiatives while advancing new priorities. Here's an overview of how Biden's years either reinforced or counteracted "Trumpian" policies.

Areas Where Biden Countered Trumpian Policies:

  1. COVID-19 Response

    • Impact on Trumpian Policies: Biden prioritized a more centralized, science-driven COVID-19 response, emphasizing vaccine distribution, mask mandates in federal spaces, and outreach to states. This differed from Trump's often decentralized and sometimes skeptical approach.
    • Outcome: Biden's strategy aimed to accelerate vaccinations and reduce case counts, though challenges such as new variants persisted. Critics debated the effectiveness of mandates and public health measures, seeing them as either essential corrections or overreach.
  2. Climate Change and Environmental Policies

    • Impact on Trumpian Policies: Biden rejoined the Paris Climate Agreement on his first day in office and reversed many of Trump's environmental deregulations. He focused on renewable energy initiatives and emissions reductions.
    • Outcome: This shift underscored a commitment to combating climate change, contrasting sharply with Trump's emphasis on deregulation and fossil fuel promotion. However, it faced mixed reactions from different economic sectors, particularly energy-related businesses.
  3. Immigration Policies

    • Impact on Trumpian Policies: Biden rescinded several of Trump's restrictive immigration policies, including the "Remain in Mexico" program. He sought pathways for citizenship and addressed family separations.
    • Outcome: Biden's softer stance and policy changes were viewed as humane by supporters but criticized by some as contributing to increased border crossings and strained immigration facilities.
  4. Economic and Tax Policies

    • Impact on Trumpian Policies: Biden partially reversed Trump’s corporate tax cuts by proposing tax increases on high-income earners and corporations to fund new infrastructure and social programs.
    • Outcome: Supporters saw this as a way to invest in critical sectors and reduce income inequality, while opponents feared it would hurt economic growth. Biden’s approach marked a pivot from the trickle-down emphasis in Trump's economic policies.
  5. Foreign Policy and Alliances

    • Impact on Trumpian Policies: Biden sought to rebuild alliances strained during the Trump era, such as with NATO partners and European allies. He adopted a cooperative international approach while still maintaining some hardline stances (e.g., on China).
    • Outcome: The return to multilateralism was welcomed by many allies but received mixed reviews domestically, with critics of Biden arguing that he sometimes showed weakness on the global stage, particularly during the Afghanistan withdrawal.
  6. Trade Policies

    • Impact on Trumpian Policies: While Biden continued some tariffs on China, he approached trade with less of an "America First" rhetoric. Efforts were made to stabilize supply chains and boost domestic manufacturing, often reframing, not fully undoing, Trump’s trade focus.
    • Outcome: The nuanced approach sought to thread a middle ground, retaining some trade protections while fostering diplomacy. However, progress in reconfiguring global trade agreements faced mixed success.

Areas Where Biden Reinforced or Continued Trumpian Policies:

  1. China Policy

    • Reinforcement: Biden maintained many of Trump’s tough policies on China, including tariffs and competitive technology policies. His administration upheld a cautious stance, continuing to label China as a strategic rival.
    • Outcome: The continuity demonstrated bipartisan consensus on addressing China’s economic practices and global ambitions, though Biden often sought to rally allies for a more coordinated approach.
  2. Middle East Policies (Abraham Accords)

    • Reinforcement: The Biden administration maintained support for the Abraham Accords, which normalized relations between Israel and Arab nations, while also pursuing renewed diplomacy with Palestinians.
    • Outcome: Biden’s maintenance of these accords signaled their perceived value as a positive Trump legacy, even as his administration worked to broaden engagement in the region.
  3. Infrastructure Investment

    • Reinforcement and Expansion: Biden expanded on Trump’s infrastructure focus, passing a major bipartisan infrastructure law to repair and upgrade critical American infrastructure, including roads, bridges, and broadband.
    • Outcome: This reflected continuity in recognizing infrastructure as a key investment area, but Biden’s plan was broader and more detailed compared to Trump's proposals.

Mixed Outcomes and Criticisms

  1. Energy Policies

    • Biden’s policies led to renewed focus on clean energy but faced criticism amid high energy prices, partly exacerbated by the conflict in Ukraine. Critics claimed Biden’s approach undermined U.S. energy independence touted by Trump, while others praised it as forward-thinking.
  2. Regulatory and Labor Policies

    • Biden's support for unions and regulatory standards contrasted with Trump’s deregulatory agenda, leading to new protections but also concerns about increased costs and bureaucratic red tape for businesses.

Overall, Biden's term reflected a significant pivot from Trump's, emphasizing government intervention, multilateral diplomacy, and a progressive agenda on climate, health, and economic equality. Simultaneously, it retained aspects of Trump's policies on trade and geopolitics, reflecting a nuanced legacy-driven policy evolution.

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Question
whose policies were more successful or more detracting between trump and biden?
ChatGPT said:
Determining the "success" or "detracting" nature of the policies of Presidents Donald Trump and Joe Biden is complex and highly dependent on one’s political perspective, as well as which metrics or areas are prioritized. Here is an overview of the areas where each leader's policies have been regarded as more or less effective, with context provided:

Economic Policies

  • Trump's Approach:
    Trump emphasized tax cuts, deregulation, and a business-friendly approach to stimulate economic growth. His 2017 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act provided tax relief, particularly for corporations, which he argued spurred investment and job creation. Pre-pandemic, economic indicators such as unemployment (including for minority groups) reached historic lows, and GDP growth was solid. However, critics point out that these gains benefited the wealthiest disproportionately and led to increased national debt.

    • Successes: Pre-pandemic economic growth, record low unemployment rates, and strong stock market performance.
    • Detractors: Increased income inequality, rising federal deficit, and critics suggesting gains were extensions of prior economic trends.
  • Biden's Approach:
    Biden prioritized investment in infrastructure, a shift towards green energy, and tax reforms aimed at wealthier individuals and corporations to reduce income inequality and fund new social initiatives. The American Rescue Plan and other stimulus measures were aimed at economic recovery from COVID-19’s fallout, but inflation became a growing issue during his term.

    • Successes: Passage of a historic infrastructure bill, reduced unemployment as the economy recovered post-pandemic, and boosts to social safety nets.
    • Detractors: Higher inflation, supply chain disruptions, and increased government spending leading to worries about national debt and potential economic overheating.

Verdict: Trump's pre-pandemic economic growth was considered by many as successful, but it disproportionately benefited the wealthy. Biden's recovery policies reduced unemployment post-pandemic but were criticized for inflation and spending.

Foreign Policy

  • Trump's Approach:
    Trump adopted an "America First" foreign policy, emphasizing unilateralism and transactional diplomacy. He brokered the Abraham Accords but also withdrew from international agreements like the Iran nuclear deal and the Paris Climate Agreement. His confrontational approach to NATO allies and trade wars, especially with China, were polarizing.

    • Successes: Abraham Accords, pressuring NATO allies to increase defense spending, and confronting China on trade issues.
    • Detractors: Weakened alliances, isolationism, and strained diplomatic relationships, often seen as eroding America's global standing.
  • Biden's Approach:
    Biden sought to rebuild alliances and engage multilaterally. He rejoined the Paris Agreement, mended ties with NATO allies, and emphasized diplomacy. However, the chaotic withdrawal from Afghanistan undermined his foreign policy credibility for many, even as it fulfilled a long-standing U.S. goal.

    • Successes: Rebuilding diplomatic ties, continuity in tough stances on China, and efforts to counter Russia’s aggression in Ukraine through alliances.
    • Detractors: Perceived weakness and lack of strategic coherence, notably during the Afghanistan withdrawal, and challenges in handling complex international crises.

Verdict: Trump’s foreign policy successes often reflected disruption, but critics highlight long-term costs. Biden’s return to multilateralism was praised but came with some strategic missteps.

COVID-19 Response

  • Trump's Approach:
    Trump’s COVID-19 response was criticized for inconsistent messaging, downplaying the virus early on, and focusing on states’ handling rather than federal coordination. However, Operation Warp Speed was a major success, helping to accelerate vaccine development.

    • Successes: Operation Warp Speed's rapid vaccine development.
    • Detractors: Perceived lack of a coordinated federal response, mixed messages, and early downplaying of the virus’ seriousness.
  • Biden's Approach:
    Biden prioritized a centralized federal response with mass vaccination campaigns, public health mandates, and federal guidance. His approach was viewed as more organized but faced backlash, particularly over mandates.

    • Successes: High vaccination rates and a more organized federal response.
    • Detractors: Vaccine hesitancy, controversy over mandates, and ongoing challenges with new variants.

Verdict: Trump's vaccine push was a major milestone, but Biden’s broader efforts to coordinate a national response were seen as more robust, despite facing societal resistance.

Domestic Policy and Social Issues

  • Trump's Approach:
    Trump focused on deregulation, judicial appointments (shifting courts to a conservative lean), and restrictive immigration policies. Critics argue these policies divided the nation on key social issues.

    • Successes: Judicial appointments and appeals to certain conservative values.
    • Detractors: Critics accused him of inflaming racial tensions and pursuing policies that marginalized vulnerable populations.
  • Biden's Approach:
    Biden emphasized racial equity, expanded social safety nets, and labor rights. He aimed to overturn some of Trump’s immigration policies and supported progressive policies.

    • Successes: Advancing social equity and progressive reforms, worker-focused policies.
    • Detractors: Seen by some as overly progressive, and perceived weaknesses in border control and immigration management.

Verdict: Trump’s domestic policies energized his base but were divisive, while Biden sought to unify on equity and social safety nets, though his progressive push encountered political backlash.

Conclusion

  • Success Assessment: Trump’s successes were often viewed through a lens of economic growth, conservative judicial influence, and disrupting norms to bring attention to neglected issues, but at the cost of increased political polarization. Biden sought to correct what many saw as Trump’s divisive actions by emphasizing diplomacy, multilateralism, and domestic equity, but encountered challenges like inflation and societal divides.
  • Detractions: Trump's isolationist and divisive rhetoric weakened alliances and caused domestic rifts, while Biden's ambitious agenda sometimes ran into political gridlock and economic headwinds, particularly on inflation.

Overall, the assessment often comes down to one's perspective on their approaches and priorities, with both having areas of notable impact and significant detractors.

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Question
To what degree was Constitutional governance observed between trump and biden?

ChatGPT said:

Assessing the adherence to Constitutional governance by Presidents Donald Trump and Joe Biden between their terms (2016-2020 for Trump and 2020-2024 for Biden) is a complex task, as it involves examining their interpretation, enforcement, and perceived compliance with Constitutional principles, norms, and the separation of powers. Here's an overview of how their presidencies reflected adherence or challenges to Constitutional governance:

Donald Trump (2016-2020)

Areas of Adherence:

  1. Judicial Appointments:
    • Trump adhered strictly to Constitutional processes in appointing over 200 federal judges and three Supreme Court Justices. These appointments had a lasting impact on the judiciary's ideological balance, reflecting his commitment to utilizing his Constitutional powers.
  2. Executive Orders and Vetoes:
    • Trump frequently issued executive orders, consistent with his powers as president, to advance his policies. While not unprecedented, the use of executive action was well within the legal bounds, even if at times controversial.

Areas of Challenge or Criticism:

  1. Impeachment Proceedings:
    • Trump was impeached twice by the House of Representatives. The first impeachment related to his attempts to pressure Ukraine to investigate a political rival, raising concerns about abuse of power and potential violations of Constitutional norms. The second impeachment followed the January 6th Capitol riot, with charges of incitement of insurrection.
    • Both times, he was acquitted by the Senate, highlighting the political and legal complexities of the impeachment process.
  2. Separation of Powers and Rule of Law:
    • Critics argue that Trump's interactions with the Department of Justice (DOJ), perceived attempts to influence investigations, and pressure on officials during the 2020 election to "find votes" raised questions about Constitutional limits and the independence of government institutions.
  3. Use of Emergency Powers:
    • Declaring a national emergency to secure funding for a border wall, bypassing Congress's control over the budget, was controversial and legally contested, reflecting a tension with Constitutional checks and balances.

Summary:

  • Adherence Level: Trump’s administration generally followed Constitutional procedures when advancing major initiatives (e.g., judicial appointments), but he frequently challenged established norms, tested the boundaries of executive power, and sometimes provoked bipartisan concern over potential overreach and adherence to the rule of law.

Joe Biden (2020-2024)

Areas of Adherence:

  1. Return to Norms:
    • Biden emphasized a “return to normalcy” and adherence to Constitutional norms, signaling respect for institutional independence (e.g., DOJ independence) and commitment to cooperative governance.
  2. Legislative Agenda:
    • Biden pursued much of his policy agenda through legislative means, including bipartisan efforts like the infrastructure bill, reflecting adherence to the Constitutional balance of power.
  3. Judicial Challenges and Respect for Rulings:
    • Biden's administration generally respected court rulings and legal procedures, even when faced with judicial setbacks to his executive orders, such as immigration policies.

Areas of Challenge or Criticism:

  1. Executive Orders:
    • Like Trump, Biden relied heavily on executive orders, reversing many of Trump’s policies quickly through executive action. While lawful, this practice was seen by some as skirting legislative processes and continuing a trend toward "executive overreach."
  2. Vaccine Mandates:
    • Federal vaccine mandates imposed by Biden faced numerous legal challenges. Opponents argued that mandates for businesses and federal employees represented federal overreach, testing the limits of executive authority under the Constitution.
  3. Border and Immigration Policies:
    • Biden's approach to immigration, particularly lifting some Trump-era restrictions, raised issues about Constitutional powers and enforcement responsibilities. Critics argued that his border policies tested the limits of executive discretion, with states pushing back legally.

Summary:

  • Adherence Level: Biden’s approach reflected a deliberate emphasis on institutional norms and rule-based governance. However, like his predecessors, he faced accusations of over-reliance on executive orders, raising questions about the balance of executive and legislative power.

Comparative Analysis of Constitutional Governance:

  • Separation of Powers: Trump’s frequent confrontations with the judicial branch, use of emergency powers, and challenges to Congressional authority were notable, as was his effort to expand executive influence. Biden sought to operate within more traditional norms but faced criticism for using executive action when legislative efforts stalled.
  • Rule of Law and Norms: Trump's unorthodox style often challenged norms around the rule of law, with some instances seen as bending or straining Constitutional principles (e.g., post-election challenges). Biden, conversely, aimed to reassert norms but drew criticism when using his powers for broad mandates or contested regulations.
  • Respect for Judicial Independence: Trump faced frequent accusations of attempting to politicize or pressure judicial and investigatory bodies, while Biden largely respected judicial independence, though some of his policies also faced significant legal scrutiny.

Conclusion

Both presidencies tested the boundaries of Constitutional governance but in different ways. Trump’s term was marked by norm-challenging rhetoric and actions that sparked constitutional debate, often invoking robust Congressional pushback. Biden, while seeking a return to Constitutional norms, also faced allegations of overreach, especially through executive mandates. The degree of adherence or divergence from Constitutional principles depends on one's perspective on the scope and nature of presidential powers.

Is US economy better or worse now
[under Biden] than under Trump?





Question
Generally, which administration was the more successful in the broadest meaning of the phrase?

ChatGPT said:

Determining which administration—Donald Trump's (2016-2020) or Joe Biden's (2020-2024)—was more "successful" in the broadest sense involves assessing a range of policy outcomes, leadership approaches, and societal impacts. This broad measure of success is influenced by economic performance, social cohesion, international relations, crisis management, and adherence to democratic norms and governance.

1. Economic Success

  • Trump's Administration:
    Trump's presidency saw robust economic growth prior to the COVID-19 pandemic. Key indicators included low unemployment, especially among minority groups, deregulation efforts, and tax reforms that spurred corporate investment. However, critics argue that these policies disproportionately benefited the wealthy and increased the national deficit. The economic impact of the pandemic was a major challenge, with economic downturns and job losses.
  • Biden's Administration:
    Biden inherited a pandemic-battered economy and prioritized recovery through substantial government spending, including stimulus payments, infrastructure investments, and expanded social safety nets. While the economy rebounded, high inflation and supply chain disruptions posed significant challenges. Supporters highlight decreased unemployment and infrastructure gains; critics point to economic difficulties like rising costs of living.

Overall Assessment:
Trump's pre-pandemic economic success showed strong growth metrics, but Biden's efforts to recover and stabilize the economy in a crisis were notable despite inflation concerns.

2. Domestic Policy and Social Cohesion

  • Trump's Administration:
    Trump's approach often energized his base with populist rhetoric, but it was deeply polarizing, frequently criticized for inflaming cultural and racial tensions. His policies on immigration, law and order, and social issues were divisive, although his judicial appointments reshaped the federal judiciary for years to come. The January 6th Capitol riot underscored sharp political divides and raised concerns about democracy's fragility.
  • Biden's Administration:
    Biden aimed to be a unifying force, emphasizing racial and social equity and bipartisan initiatives like the infrastructure bill. While his rhetoric focused on national healing, his progressive agenda also faced pushback, further polarizing segments of society. Cultural and social divisions persisted, with criticism from conservatives over perceived leftward overreach.

Overall Assessment:
Trump was a transformative but divisive figure domestically, while Biden sought unity with varying degrees of success. Both administrations reflected a nation grappling with significant social and ideological polarization.

3. Foreign Policy and Global Influence

  • Trump's Administration:
    Trump emphasized "America First" policies, focusing on nationalism, challenging NATO, and imposing tariffs on trade rivals like China. He brokered peace deals such as the Abraham Accords but was criticized for weakening alliances and withdrawing from international agreements, such as the Paris Climate Agreement and the Iran nuclear deal. His approach disrupted traditional diplomatic norms and was viewed by many allies as unpredictable.
  • Biden's Administration:
    Biden sought to restore alliances, re-entered multilateral agreements (e.g., Paris Climate Agreement), and emphasized diplomacy. His handling of Russia's invasion of Ukraine, working with NATO allies to impose sanctions on Russia, showcased multilateral efforts. However, the chaotic withdrawal from Afghanistan was a low point, raising questions about competence and strategic clarity.

Overall Assessment:
Trump's foreign policy saw bold, unconventional moves that drew mixed reactions. Biden emphasized restoring traditional diplomacy but faced challenges in implementing consistent, coherent strategies.

4. Crisis Management (COVID-19)

  • Trump's Administration:
    Trump's response to COVID-19 was widely criticized for inconsistent messaging and downplaying the severity of the virus. However, Operation Warp Speed, which accelerated vaccine development, was a significant success.
  • Biden's Administration:
    Biden focused on a centralized, science-based approach to combat COVID-19, with mass vaccination campaigns and federal mandates. His administration saw significant vaccination rollout but faced backlash over mandates and persistent challenges with new variants.

Overall Assessment:
Trump's vaccine push was a milestone, but his pandemic messaging was divisive. Biden's comprehensive approach improved public health coordination but encountered significant political and social pushback.

5. Adherence to Democratic Norms and Governance

  • Trump's Administration:
    Trump's term was marked by frequent challenges to democratic norms, including perceived attacks on the free press, confrontations with the judiciary, and his refusal to accept the 2020 election results, culminating in the Capitol riot. Supporters viewed his actions as anti-establishment; critics saw them as a threat to democracy.
  • Biden's Administration:
    Biden emphasized a return to norms, respect for institutions, and traditional governance. However, his reliance on executive orders for policy implementation drew criticism as a continuation of expanding executive authority.

Overall Assessment:
Trump’s approach to governance disrupted norms and triggered democratic concerns, while Biden sought to rebuild respect for institutions, though he faced challenges in navigating a divided political landscape.

Conclusion: Broadest Measure of Success

  • Trump's Strengths and Weaknesses: Trump's impact was significant in reshaping the judiciary, energizing a populist movement, and showing economic growth pre-pandemic. However, his divisiveness, challenges to democratic norms, and pandemic response were major drawbacks.
  • Biden's Strengths and Weaknesses: Biden emphasized recovery, unity, multilateralism, and progressive domestic reforms. However, inflation, social polarization, and crisis missteps tempered his successes.

In broad terms, Trump was transformative and polarizing, while Biden aimed for stabilization and repair, with mixed outcomes. "Success" depends heavily on personal values, economic priorities, and political perspectives. For supporters, Trump may represent bold change; for others, Biden's steady approach amid crises may resonate as more successful.

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done. thx. please file under Trump v Biden Administrations

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