Quotes & Sayings

We, and creation itself, actualize the possibilities of the God who sustains the world, towards becoming in the world in a fuller, more deeper way. - R.E. Slater

There is urgency in coming to see the world as a web of interrelated processes of which we are integral parts, so that all of our choices and actions have [consequential effects upon] the world around us. - Process Metaphysician Alfred North Whitehead

Kurt Gödel's Incompleteness Theorem says (i) all closed systems are unprovable within themselves and, that (ii) all open systems are rightly understood as incomplete. - R.E. Slater

The most true thing about you is what God has said to you in Christ, "You are My Beloved." - Tripp Fuller

The God among us is the God who refuses to be God without us, so great is God's Love. - Tripp Fuller

According to some Christian outlooks we were made for another world. Perhaps, rather, we were made for this world to recreate, reclaim, redeem, and renew unto God's future aspiration by the power of His Spirit. - R.E. Slater

Our eschatological ethos is to love. To stand with those who are oppressed. To stand against those who are oppressing. It is that simple. Love is our only calling and Christian Hope. - R.E. Slater

Secularization theory has been massively falsified. We don't live in an age of secularity. We live in an age of explosive, pervasive religiosity... an age of religious pluralism. - Peter L. Berger

Exploring the edge of life and faith in a post-everything world. - Todd Littleton

I don't need another reason to believe, your love is all around for me to see. – Anon

Thou art our need; and in giving us more of thyself thou givest us all. - Khalil Gibran, Prayer XXIII

Be careful what you pretend to be. You become what you pretend to be. - Kurt Vonnegut

Religious beliefs, far from being primary, are often shaped and adjusted by our social goals. - Jim Forest

We become who we are by what we believe and can justify. - R.E. Slater

People, even more than things, need to be restored, renewed, revived, reclaimed, and redeemed; never throw out anyone. – Anon

Certainly, God's love has made fools of us all. - R.E. Slater

An apocalyptic Christian faith doesn't wait for Jesus to come, but for Jesus to become in our midst. - R.E. Slater

Christian belief in God begins with the cross and resurrection of Jesus, not with rational apologetics. - Eberhard Jüngel, Jürgen Moltmann

Our knowledge of God is through the 'I-Thou' encounter, not in finding God at the end of a syllogism or argument. There is a grave danger in any Christian treatment of God as an object. The God of Jesus Christ and Scripture is irreducibly subject and never made as an object, a force, a power, or a principle that can be manipulated. - Emil Brunner

“Ehyeh Asher Ehyeh” means "I will be that who I have yet to become." - God (Ex 3.14) or, conversely, “I AM who I AM Becoming.”

Our job is to love others without stopping to inquire whether or not they are worthy. - Thomas Merton

The church is God's world-changing social experiment of bringing unlikes and differents to the Eucharist/Communion table to share life with one another as a new kind of family. When this happens, we show to the world what love, justice, peace, reconciliation, and life together is designed by God to be. The church is God's show-and-tell for the world to see how God wants us to live as a blended, global, polypluralistic family united with one will, by one Lord, and baptized by one Spirit. – Anon

The cross that is planted at the heart of the history of the world cannot be uprooted. - Jacques Ellul

The Unity in whose loving presence the universe unfolds is inside each person as a call to welcome the stranger, protect animals and the earth, respect the dignity of each person, think new thoughts, and help bring about ecological civilizations. - John Cobb & Farhan A. Shah

If you board the wrong train it is of no use running along the corridors of the train in the other direction. - Dietrich Bonhoeffer

God's justice is restorative rather than punitive; His discipline is merciful rather than punishing; His power is made perfect in weakness; and His grace is sufficient for all. – Anon

Our little [biblical] systems have their day; they have their day and cease to be. They are but broken lights of Thee, and Thou, O God art more than they. - Alfred Lord Tennyson

We can’t control God; God is uncontrollable. God can’t control us; God’s love is uncontrolling! - Thomas Jay Oord

Life in perspective but always in process... as we are relational beings in process to one another, so life events are in process in relation to each event... as God is to Self, is to world, is to us... like Father, like sons and daughters, like events... life in process yet always in perspective. - R.E. Slater

To promote societal transition to sustainable ways of living and a global society founded on a shared ethical framework which includes respect and care for the community of life, ecological integrity, universal human rights, respect for diversity, economic justice, democracy, and a culture of peace. - The Earth Charter Mission Statement

Christian humanism is the belief that human freedom, individual conscience, and unencumbered rational inquiry are compatible with the practice of Christianity or even intrinsic in its doctrine. It represents a philosophical union of Christian faith and classical humanist principles. - Scott Postma

It is never wise to have a self-appointed religious institution determine a nation's moral code. The opportunities for moral compromise and failure are high; the moral codes and creeds assuredly racist, discriminatory, or subjectively and religiously defined; and the pronouncement of inhumanitarian political objectives quite predictable. - R.E. Slater

God's love must both center and define the Christian faith and all religious or human faiths seeking human and ecological balance in worlds of subtraction, harm, tragedy, and evil. - R.E. Slater

In Whitehead’s process ontology, we can think of the experiential ground of reality as an eternal pulse whereby what is objectively public in one moment becomes subjectively prehended in the next, and whereby the subject that emerges from its feelings then perishes into public expression as an object (or “superject”) aiming for novelty. There is a rhythm of Being between object and subject, not an ontological division. This rhythm powers the creative growth of the universe from one occasion of experience to the next. This is the Whiteheadian mantra: “The many become one and are increased by one.” - Matthew Segall

Without Love there is no Truth. And True Truth is always Loving. There is no dichotomy between these terms but only seamless integration. This is the premier centering focus of a Processual Theology of Love. - R.E. Slater


Note: Generally I do not respond to commentary. I may read the comments but wish to reserve my time to write (or write from the comments I read). Instead, I'd like to see our community help one another and in the helping encourage and exhort each of us towards Christian love in Christ Jesus our Lord and Savior. - re slater

Friday, July 31, 2015

Rob Bell - Everything is Spiritual Tour 2015

On this last day of July 2015 our former pastor and friend Rob Bell visited Grand Rapids a couple of days ago on his most recent tour to share an updated mix of his past (and newer) "Everything is Spiritual" thoughts and message to people in general and to any of the listening church specifically. Whatever one's views of Rob's message or doctrine I can personally say that his consistent, overall message has been one of learning to love one another, to become a united spiritual body working towards social justice and respect with people and cultures different from ourselves, and to lift up Jesus out of the traditional church's older context of condemnation and judgment (which includes labeling everybody and everything different from ourselves and our ideas).

This may not be the pace of the religious church in general struggling with overcoming so many deep, and personally disorientating, societal movements and disruptions, but if we stop and simply breathe for a few moments, days, or weeks, I think this is a message that can help uplift the church's own message of the good news in Jesus for a post-modern, post-Christian world. A world that has left the train station of the 19th and 20th century and is moving forward at the mighty breath of God to re-engage Christianity with what it means to be "church" apart from our religious faith's many political messages telling us "what the gospel of Jesus is and isn't."

As always, let us be in prayer for one another to the binding up of the many wounds of our heart through service, fellowship, and goodwill to one another as to the stranger of our faith. Even to the one who is in the faith pretending everything is alright and good while whole worlds are falling apart.


R.S. Slater
July 31, 2015

Rob Bell | Everything is Spiritual Tour | 2015

Rob Bell returns: His thoughts on creation,
[the] modern 'kingdom of God'

by Matt Vande Bunte, MLive.com
July 30, 2015

GRAND RAPIDS, MI – "In the beginning," Rob Bell said, "was a point." That point of energy went bang and, over some 13 billion years of "ongoing creation," particles bonded to become more complex atoms, which bonded to become more complex molecules, which bonded to become more complex cells, which bonded to become human beings.

Now, the spiritual inertia of the universe tugs at humankind to sustain that pattern of evolution, Bell said Wednesday, July 29, at The Intersection in downtown Grand Rapids.

"What, my brothers and sisters, is pulling the whole thing forward into greater complexity and depth and unity and inclusion?" Bell asked. "The thing (Jesus) kept talking about was the 'kingdom of God.' This is what he was talking about."

The founding pastor of Mars Hill Bible Church who moved to California three years ago, Bell came back to Grand Rapids to reprise an "Everything is Spiritual" speaking tour that he first did a decade ago. Talking about atoms rather than the biblical Adam, Bell gave a fast-paced, often comical sketch of the history of the universe, with frequent interjections of pop-culture references to music, movies and dancing Super Bowl sharks.

Dismissing secular and churchy viewpoints, Bell said humanity is hard-wired over billions of years of evolution to progress toward greater equality and unity.

"What those first Christians kept talking about was something called the body of Christ," he said. "Whenever we move towards each other, it helps move the whole thing forward to an unimaginable future.

"What is the thing we are being invited to create?"

Some other snippets from Bell's 2-hour talk

• Bell from the outset of his talk identified materialistic Super Bowl commercials as the campfire around which American culture shares its story. He also talked about religious and secular stories, suggesting that "the 'humans are awesome' story has taken a bit of a beating" through a bloody 20th century, and that the "our 'God is awesome' story" also has shortcomings.

"Our God is awesome. Our tribe is awesome. Our way is awesome. So come join us,
or we'll kick your ass," Bell said. "You can raise a lot of money with that story. You can
build big buildings with that story. You can fight a lot of wars with that story.

"We need a new story because a bunch of the stories we've been handed aren't
working like they used to."

• Using a triangle-shaped white board, Bell repeatedly traced an expansion of the universe from the Big Bang into atoms, molecules, cells and people.

"It has become very popular to say there's nothing else (besides biology) going on here,
and then they tell you that's the open-minded perspective," Bell said. "I'm going to leave
room for whatever this (forward thrust) is.

"You are just a pile of dust and yet you can hope and dream and feel compassion
and love. You are crammed full of something called spirit. You are an exotic cocktail
of dust, soul, bone and spirit."

• Bell noted that cultures have hypothesized a spark or force ingrained in creation and that "there are even some who have called this God." Don't like the term God? "Not a big deal," Bell said.

"Many of my atheist friends, when we talk about the god they don't believe in,
I don't believe in that god either."

• Just know, Bell added, that if you think it's vogue to say it's all about love, "thousands of years ago the writers of scripture were saying God is love, so it's not a new idea."

• In urging people to own up to struggles and pains from their past and use them to bond with others, Bell shared hilarious anecdotes from a particularly unpleasant interview about his controversial bestselling book "Love Wins."

"It was unique in the history of publishing because everybody who read it liked it,"
Bell said with a smirk. "And some who didn't like it even read it."

• Bell called on people to share their pains with others rather than bottle them up, to engage others rather than withdraw.

"We are all way more connected than anybody first realized," he said. "Only when
you are fully you can all of us be fully us."
Matt Vande Bunte covers government for MLive/Grand Rapids Press.
Email him atmvandebu@mlive.com or follow him on Twitter and Facebook.

Rob Bell hugs Lucy Russo, of Grand Rapids, his former personal assistant, after speaking at
The Intersection on Wednesday, July 29, 2015 during his tour, "Everything is Spiritual."
(Neil Blake | MLive.com)

What I learned from two days with Rob Bell
Since his departure from Mars Hill Church three years ago, author, communicator and pastor Rob Bell has been busy. He's been on a stadium tour with Oprah, co-written a book with his wife Kristen, planned a comedy tour with American stand-up Pete Holmes, co-written a TV drama pilot and successfully pitched his own TV show to the Oprah Winfrey Network. Alongside all of this, Bell has run several '2 Days with Rob Bell' events in Laguna Beach California for 'anyone whose work involves creating something and then turning it loose in the world'. The events are billed as two days with Rob in an interactive, teaching setting where he shares ideas and answers questions from those in the audience.
This week, in partnership with Oasis Church in Waterloo, '2 Days with Rob Bell' came to London. The content was advertised as a chance for Bell to teach on how to stay inspired when you're growing, learning, changing, and others around you are not, and they think you've lost your way.
I've followed Bell's work since the publication of his first book, Velvet Elvis, which had a profoundly positive effect on me as a younger Christian. I was interested in an event that seemed to be more intimate and interactive; a chance to ask Bell all the questions that rattle around in your mind every time you hear him speak or read one of his books.
The introductory session very much stuck to the event description, where Bell explored what happens when you go through big shifts and changes, and "the things you've been given along the way don't work anymore, you were given a map to a territory that no longer exists". He went on to explain and unpack 'Spiral Dynamics', a model attributed to Dr Clare W Graves and Dr Don Beck. The model is made of first and second tier stages, that describe a way of being or thinking. Bell used the model to explain the progression of the church, and how different Christians and churches can function healthily and unhealthily in each stage. He said the goal was to transcend and include – recognising each stage would be a part of us, and loving each person/church in whatever stage they are in. This was a stimulating and exciting part of the day, where many people recognised their own churches and faith journeys within the descriptions.
In the next two sessions Bell talked for a long period of time about quantum physics and theology, giving many facts about the make up of our universe, particles and atoms, and how the universe is being pulled forward from simplicity into complexity. He related this to our lives in several ways, encouraging us to be "fully present in the now," realising that anything is possible for us and that we are progressing forward, just like the universe. It felt like an extended version of his DVD and speaking tour Everything is Spiritual, perhaps with new material but making some similar points. At times it became too complex and detailed, and felt disconnected to the previous session.
The first session in day two was about criticism, of which Bell has faced plenty in his time, particularly in relation to his infamous book Love Wins. During this he talked about being a non-reactive presence in conflict and criticism, not defending but listening and asking questions, seeing what is going on beneath the surface. It was inspiring, moving and very practical, applicable advice. Bell advised having a group of friends who will "tell you the truth before your critics do", so you're accountable and what you do is refined and sharpened. Another key idea from this session was 'the marinade' – letting a new idea sit with you for a while before acting on it.
Bell shared some painful stories from times where he has been criticised and betrayed, sometimes by people very close to him and his family. His honesty was inspiring, and he became emotional as he told one story of a close friendship breaking down. He says his goal is to have a "thick skin and a soft heart" and to let criticism clarify and help him.
A particular highlight of this session was his discussion of the difference between those who have a craft, and those who chase success. Bell drew out the distinctions between the two, a craft being a sacred task that is yours, something you can't believe you get to do, something that gets you up in the morning and that humbles you. Chasing success he described as being all about wanting more, never having enough, selfishly getting all you can and never being grateful or satisfied.
Another session focused on communication, and this felt like a masterclass from an expert. Bell shared on everything from how to construct a sermon and collect information about a topic, to book recommendations and 'existential urgency' – identifying why this topics matters to your audience. It felt like a backstage tour of his mind and creative processes, and it was littered with funny, moving and thought provoking stories as well as an impressive biblical knowledge and a commitment to interpreting scripture in the best way possible.
In a Q&A time, Bell spoke briefly about his journey with church. He admitted to feeling freer to express his views without an institution that "signs the paycheck". When asked about reforming the old or starting the new, he answered "It's easier to give birth than to raise the dead", but did affirm those with a calling to change the church, and said his definition of church was now much wider.
Bell wrapped up the conference with a final section of teaching. He encouraged the audience to have healthy rhythms between work and rest, maintaining Sabbath and receiving the good gifts that come their way. He affirmed everyone as a precious, sacred gift that needs to be cared for and stewarded. He ended with a moving benediction, at the end of which he received a standing ovation.
Personally I found the event moving, inspiring, challenging and thought-provoking. My few and minor disappointments were occasional repeated content, very long talk-heavy session times with few breaks, Q&A being the only form of interaction and some people dominating the Q&A times. I know the cost made it inaccessible for some, although Bell did say he would be back in the autumn for an 'Everything is Spiritual Part 2' tour, and that he is working on a new book called 'How to Be Here' – a look at how to live fully in the present moment and be released from the past.
Whatever your views on Bell, he encourages people to think for themselves, reimagine church and faith, ask questions, be better people and do good things in the world around us, rooted in a relationship with God and a reimagination of church and the Bible. I have been impressed with his vulnerability, honesty, accessibility and kindness to those at the event and I look forward to his return to the UK in the autumn.
Jo is a lecturer, youth worker, film-maker and long term Rob Bell fan. Follow Jo on Twitter.