Quotes & Sayings


We, and creation itself, actualize the possibilities of the God who sustains the world, towards becoming in the world in a fuller, more deeper way. - R.E. Slater

There is urgency in coming to see the world as a web of interrelated processes of which we are integral parts, so that all of our choices and actions have [consequential effects upon] the world around us. - Process Metaphysician Alfred North Whitehead

Kurt Gödel's Incompleteness Theorem says (i) all closed systems are unprovable within themselves and, that (ii) all open systems are rightly understood as incomplete. - R.E. Slater

The most true thing about you is what God has said to you in Christ, "You are My Beloved." - Tripp Fuller

The God among us is the God who refuses to be God without us, so great is God's Love. - Tripp Fuller

According to some Christian outlooks we were made for another world. Perhaps, rather, we were made for this world to recreate, reclaim, redeem, and renew unto God's future aspiration by the power of His Spirit. - R.E. Slater

Our eschatological ethos is to love. To stand with those who are oppressed. To stand against those who are oppressing. It is that simple. Love is our only calling and Christian Hope. - R.E. Slater

Secularization theory has been massively falsified. We don't live in an age of secularity. We live in an age of explosive, pervasive religiosity... an age of religious pluralism. - Peter L. Berger

Exploring the edge of life and faith in a post-everything world. - Todd Littleton

I don't need another reason to believe, your love is all around for me to see. – Anon

Thou art our need; and in giving us more of thyself thou givest us all. - Khalil Gibran, Prayer XXIII

Be careful what you pretend to be. You become what you pretend to be. - Kurt Vonnegut

Religious beliefs, far from being primary, are often shaped and adjusted by our social goals. - Jim Forest

We become who we are by what we believe and can justify. - R.E. Slater

People, even more than things, need to be restored, renewed, revived, reclaimed, and redeemed; never throw out anyone. – Anon

Certainly, God's love has made fools of us all. - R.E. Slater

An apocalyptic Christian faith doesn't wait for Jesus to come, but for Jesus to become in our midst. - R.E. Slater

Christian belief in God begins with the cross and resurrection of Jesus, not with rational apologetics. - Eberhard Jüngel, Jürgen Moltmann

Our knowledge of God is through the 'I-Thou' encounter, not in finding God at the end of a syllogism or argument. There is a grave danger in any Christian treatment of God as an object. The God of Jesus Christ and Scripture is irreducibly subject and never made as an object, a force, a power, or a principle that can be manipulated. - Emil Brunner

“Ehyeh Asher Ehyeh” means "I will be that who I have yet to become." - God (Ex 3.14) or, conversely, “I AM who I AM Becoming.”

Our job is to love others without stopping to inquire whether or not they are worthy. - Thomas Merton

The church is God's world-changing social experiment of bringing unlikes and differents to the Eucharist/Communion table to share life with one another as a new kind of family. When this happens, we show to the world what love, justice, peace, reconciliation, and life together is designed by God to be. The church is God's show-and-tell for the world to see how God wants us to live as a blended, global, polypluralistic family united with one will, by one Lord, and baptized by one Spirit. – Anon

The cross that is planted at the heart of the history of the world cannot be uprooted. - Jacques Ellul

The Unity in whose loving presence the universe unfolds is inside each person as a call to welcome the stranger, protect animals and the earth, respect the dignity of each person, think new thoughts, and help bring about ecological civilizations. - John Cobb & Farhan A. Shah

If you board the wrong train it is of no use running along the corridors of the train in the other direction. - Dietrich Bonhoeffer

God's justice is restorative rather than punitive; His discipline is merciful rather than punishing; His power is made perfect in weakness; and His grace is sufficient for all. – Anon

Our little [biblical] systems have their day; they have their day and cease to be. They are but broken lights of Thee, and Thou, O God art more than they. - Alfred Lord Tennyson

We can’t control God; God is uncontrollable. God can’t control us; God’s love is uncontrolling! - Thomas Jay Oord

Life in perspective but always in process... as we are relational beings in process to one another, so life events are in process in relation to each event... as God is to Self, is to world, is to us... like Father, like sons and daughters, like events... life in process yet always in perspective. - R.E. Slater

To promote societal transition to sustainable ways of living and a global society founded on a shared ethical framework which includes respect and care for the community of life, ecological integrity, universal human rights, respect for diversity, economic justice, democracy, and a culture of peace. - The Earth Charter Mission Statement

Christian humanism is the belief that human freedom, individual conscience, and unencumbered rational inquiry are compatible with the practice of Christianity or even intrinsic in its doctrine. It represents a philosophical union of Christian faith and classical humanist principles. - Scott Postma

It is never wise to have a self-appointed religious institution determine a nation's moral code. The opportunities for moral compromise and failure are high; the moral codes and creeds assuredly racist, discriminatory, or subjectively and religiously defined; and the pronouncement of inhumanitarian political objectives quite predictable. - R.E. Slater

God's love must both center and define the Christian faith and all religious or human faiths seeking human and ecological balance in worlds of subtraction, harm, tragedy, and evil. - R.E. Slater

In Whitehead’s process ontology, we can think of the experiential ground of reality as an eternal pulse whereby what is objectively public in one moment becomes subjectively prehended in the next, and whereby the subject that emerges from its feelings then perishes into public expression as an object (or “superject”) aiming for novelty. There is a rhythm of Being between object and subject, not an ontological division. This rhythm powers the creative growth of the universe from one occasion of experience to the next. This is the Whiteheadian mantra: “The many become one and are increased by one.” - Matthew Segall

Without Love there is no Truth. And True Truth is always Loving. There is no dichotomy between these terms but only seamless integration. This is the premier centering focus of a Processual Theology of Love. - R.E. Slater

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Note: Generally I do not respond to commentary. I may read the comments but wish to reserve my time to write (or write from the comments I read). Instead, I'd like to see our community help one another and in the helping encourage and exhort each of us towards Christian love in Christ Jesus our Lord and Savior. - re slater

Wednesday, July 2, 2025

Has Christianity Failed It's Own Morality Tests?


Has Christianity Failed
It's Own Morality Tests?
PART 2

by R.E. Slater & ChatGPT


From the last article, "Did Christianity Make the World More Moral?" I ended by asking "How Christianity has done over the past decade?" And whether "Christianity has been conflicted politically over the eons?"

Let me ask these questions of you... how would you respond to each query?

Myself, I suspect Christianity has failed a lot more than it has succeeded... but is this speculation overly cynical or more historically correct?

Again, what do you think?

Now, let's go to the Internet and find out....

I.

Determining whether Christianity, or any religion, has made the world "more moral" is a complex and highly debated question with arguments on both sides. 

Arguments for a positive impact on morality:
  • Emphasis on Love and Compassion: Christian teachings, particularly those of Jesus, stress the importance of love for God and neighbor, forgiveness, and compassion, which proponents argue have shaped Western attitudes toward charity, disaster response, and social responsibility.
  • Influence on Human Rights: The concept of humans being created in the image of God (Imago Dei), central to Christian belief, promotes inherent human dignity and worth, which some argue influenced the development of human rights and movements like abolitionism.
  • Social Justice Advocacy: Throughout history and in recent times, Christian groups have been involved in advocating for social justice, supporting marginalized communities, and promoting human rights.
  • Moral Education: Christian teachings have played a role in shaping moral and ethical education, emphasizing values like love, forgiveness, and compassion, and contributing to the development of many modern educational systems. 
Arguments for a negative or complex impact on morality:
  • Historical Actions: Critics point to historical events like religious wars, crusades, witch hunts, and oppression within religious institutions as evidence of harm caused in the name of Christianity.
  • Use of Authority and Control: Some argue that Christianity has been used as a tool for social control and power, rather than solely promoting morality, citing historical examples of the Church resisting ideas like human rights and equality.
  • Harsh Punishments: Historically, the Christianization of the Roman Empire, for example, saw judicial penalties become harsher and the use of torture more common. 
Regarding the last decade:
  • Sources indicate a continued focus within Christian ethics on social justice and engagement with contemporary issues, while also grappling with maintaining traditional moral frameworks in a more secularized world.
  • Some reports suggest a decline in the public embrace of "absolute moral truth" that has been historically associated with a biblical worldview. 
Regarding Christianity's political involvement:
  • Christianity has been involved in politics throughout its history, from early Christians navigating a hostile Roman Empire to later influencing the laws and policies of nations.
  • Different interpretations of Christian ethics have led to varying stances on political issues, with viewpoints ranging from pacifism to just war theory, and differing perspectives on the role of the Church in relation to the state.
  • Christian ethics has been invoked to support both traditional and progressive political positions, highlighting the diversity of perspectives within Christianity. 
In summary:
Christianity has undoubtedly played a significant role in shaping moral and ethical frameworks throughout history, contributing to concepts like human dignity and social justice. However, its history also includes instances of actions carried out in its name that are viewed as contrary to its core teachings, making the question of its overall moral impact a complex and contested one. In the last decade, Christian ethics continues to navigate societal changes while addressing contemporary issues, and its engagement with the political sphere remains multifaceted and varied.

MY ASSESSMENT:

AI punted. It gave a calibrated answer to assuage the emotional feelings of many readers. Let's try again, this time asking ChatGPT....

II.

📜 1️⃣ Has Christianity made the world more moral in practice?

At its best, Christianity introduced (and globalized) moral ideas that reshaped cultures:

  • The radical idea that love of neighbor is inseparable from love of God (Jesus’ Great Commandment).

  • The call to forgive enemies, bless the poor, care for widows, orphans, the sick — charity as worship.

  • The moral worth of all persons as bearers of the divine image, which inspired abolitionist movements, universal education, hospitals, and human rights arguments in later centuries.

Yet these ideals have always existed in tension with the realities of power:

  • Medieval crusades and inquisitions did not reflect Christ’s nonviolence.

  • Colonial expansions were justified under a Christian banner while exploiting and erasing indigenous moral systems.

  • Churches often defended slavery, segregation, and patriarchy long after secular movements began to challenge them.

  • Sexual abuse scandals have exposed deep hypocrisies where institutions protected themselves over victims.

So historically, Christianity has made moral ideas more universal — but not always more practiced.

Its ideals often clashed with its political or institutional self-interest.



🇺🇸 2️⃣ Christianity in modern America — this past decade

In the last decade, the public perception of Christianity in the U.S. has shifted dramatically:

  • Many Christians still live out radical generosity, justice work, refugee aid, prison ministries, and peacemaking.

  • However, “Christianity” in the public square is now often associated with culture wars, partisan politics, and nationalist rhetoric — sometimes at odds with core teachings of Jesus.

  • Evangelical movements in particular have become heavily identified with political tribalism rather than sacrificial love or care for the marginalized.

  • Younger generations increasingly see “Christian” as a brand associated with judgment rather than mercy — ironically reversing the radical moral witness of Jesus who befriended outcasts.

So while millions of ordinary Christians live out deep moral faithfulness, the institutional or public face of American Christianity has often aligned itself with divisive politics, sometimes sacrificing moral credibility in the process.



⚔️ 3️⃣ How politically conflicted has Christianity been over the eons?

Always. From Constantine onward, Christianity has lived a double life:

  • As a radical minority faith challenging power (martyrs, monks, reformers, prophets).

  • And as a religion deeply entangled with political power (emperors, kings, state churches).

Key tensions:

  • Medieval popes crowned kings yet saints called out corruption.

  • Reformation movements fought each other — often violently — over doctrinal and political control.

  • Christianity has backed monarchies, colonial empires, revolutions, and republics. It has blessed kings and dethroned them.

  • Liberation theologians stand alongside the poor while national churches often stand alongside strongmen.

In modern America, the tension is visible again: some churches speak truth to power, some fuse faith with nationalism, some withdraw to rebuild local communities of justice and mercy.



⚖️ So — did Christianity make the world more moral?

  • In principle: It gave the world a God who cares about how we treat others — including the stranger and the enemy. That vision deeply shaped the moral imagination of the West and beyond.

  • In practice: Christians have often failed to live by that vision, especially when aligned too closely with political power.

  • Today: Christianity’s moral credibility in America is strained by its entanglement with divisive politics — yet it still inspires millions to do quiet, radical good that rarely makes headlines.



🕰️ A Timeline: Christianity, Morality & Political Conflict


🌱 1–4th centuries: Radical Minority

  • c. 30–33 CE: Jesus of Nazareth teaches radical love, forgiveness, mercy for enemies, and care for the poor. Crucified by the Roman state.

  • 1st–3rd centuries: Early Christians form underground communities; known for charity (care for widows, orphans, the sick) and refusing emperor worship.

  • Christians are persecuted for not sacrificing to Roman gods — they refuse to blend faith and imperial power.


⚔️ 4th century: Marriage with Empire

  • 313 CE: Constantine’s Edict of Milan legalizes Christianity. Christianity gains imperial favor.

  • 380 CE: Theodosius makes Christianity the Roman Empire’s official religion. Pagan temples close.

  • Christianity shifts from persecuted sect to state religion — moral ideals merge with imperial politics.


🏰 5th–10th centuries: Christendom & Empire

  • The church becomes a major landholder and power broker in Europe.

  • Missionaries convert tribes by baptizing whole kingdoms — sometimes peaceful, sometimes enforced.

  • Monastic movements (Benedictines, Irish monks) preserve learning, feed the poor, care for the sick — small moral communities amid violent feudal power.


⚔️ 11th–13th centuries: Crusades & Inquisition

  • 1095–1291: Crusades launched to reclaim Jerusalem — mixed motives: religious zeal, economic gain, political expansion.

  • Church-sanctioned violence contradicts Jesus’ nonviolence.

  • Medieval Inquisitions root out heresy — often brutal — showing the danger of moral certainty wielded by institutional power.


✝️ 14th–16th centuries: Reform & Splinter

  • Late Middle Ages: Critics like Wycliffe, Hus, Erasmus call out church corruption.

  • 1517: Martin Luther’s Reformation ignites religious wars but also returns focus to conscience, personal faith, and moral renewal.

  • Protestant sects split endlessly — many motivated by differing visions of moral society and governance.


🌍 16th–19th centuries: Missions & Empire

  • European empires expand land grabs globally — missionaries spread Christianity alongside colonizers.

  • Some missions defend indigenous rights (e.g., Bartolomé de las Casas in the Americas).

  • Others justify conquest and cultural erasure.

  • Christian moral vision inspires early human rights ideas but often compromised by complicity with empire.


18th–19th centuries: Abolition & Social Reform

  • Early Evangelicals and Quakers lead anti-slavery movements (e.g., William Wilberforce in Britain).

  • Many churches defend slavery in the U.S. — the Bible is used on both sides.

  • Christian women’s movements push education, hospitals, child labor laws, and prison reform.


⚖️ 20th century: Conflicting Witness

  • Civil Rights Movement: Black churches drive nonviolent resistance (MLK’s vision deeply Christian).

  • Holocaust: Raises hard questions about European churches’ failures to oppose fascism — many Christians resisted heroically, many did not.

  • Vatican II reforms Catholicism’s approach to modern ethics and politics.

  • Rise of Christian fundamentalism: morality shifts to culture wars (abortion, school prayer, sexuality).


🇺🇸 21st century: Fragment & Struggle

  • Global Christianity explodes in the Global South — moral focus often on poverty, justice, and reconciliation.

  • In the U.S., Christianity splits further:

    • Some align closely with nationalist, partisan politics.

    • Others double down on social justice, climate, refugee care.

  • Sexual abuse scandals in churches (Catholic and Protestant) erode moral trust.

  • Younger generations increasingly distrust “organized Christianity” — but many still follow Jesus’ moral teachings in new forms.


Big Pattern

Where Christianity stays close to the radical moral teachings of Jesus, it has inspired profound good. Where it marries power, it often contradicts its own moral heart.

 

Illustration by R.E. Slater & ChatGPT

 
Illustration by R.E. Slater & ChatGPT


Did Christianity Make the World More Moral?


Did Christianity Make
the World More Moral?
PART 1

by R.E. Slater & ChatGPT


Christians believe themselves to be morally superior to other kinds of faiths, beliefs, philosophies, codes, creeds, and societal constructions like the American Constitution. But is there justification for this belief or simply a delusion held by many Christians who more often than not act as worldly as they accuse the "pagan"  world does?

Let's explore...


Did Christianity Make the World More Moral?

Define morality and ethics:

Generally, morality relates to personal and societal behaviours whereas ethics relates to how we think about morality. Hence, ethics is more of an academic approach to societal behaviour.

Says the Internet
Morality and ethics, while related, refer to different aspects of right and wrong conduct:
  • Morality generally refers to an individual's or society's personal attitudes and behaviours about what is right or wrong. As applied to society, it refers to codes, customs, and behaviours as well. Largely, it is the everyday practice of living according to shared ideas of good and bad.
  • Ethics, on the other hand, are often seen as a more formal, codified set of rules or principles, often established by a specific religious group or profession, that guide behavior. It tends to be more reflective, systematic, and academic in the orientation and application of moral codes. Essentially, how we reason about morality, debate it, and redefine or refine it.
Essentially, morality is about personal beliefs, while ethics are about external guidelines.

Detailed breakdown
Morality
  • Is Personal and Subjective - Morality is rooted in an individual's own values, beliefs, and upbringing.
  • Influenced by culture and society - Societal norms and cultural values heavily influence what individuals consider moral.
  • Focuses on internal principles - Morality dictates how individuals judge their own actions and those of others based on their internal sense of right and wrong.
  • Can be flexible - What is considered moral can vary between individuals and cultures.

Ethics 

  • Formal and codified - Ethics are often written down as rules, principles, or codes of conduct for specific groups, professions, or organizations.
  • Objective and externally imposed - Ethical codes are designed to guide behavior in a specific context, aiming for consistency and fairness.
  • Focuses on external behavior - Ethics dictates how individuals should behave in a given situation, regardless of personal beliefs.
  • Can be applied universally within a context - Ethical codes aim for consistency and are often expected to be applied fairly to everyone within their domain.

In essence - Morality is about your personal compass of right and wrong. Ethics are the rules and guidelines that a group or society establishes to define acceptable behavior.


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Was there Morality before Christianity?

It is assumed that before Christianity there was no concept of morality et al. This is untrue. Certainly! The human race had morality and ethical systems. We would not have survived without it!

It is sometimes assumed by Christian that their religion, Christianity, “invented” morality. This is also simply untrue. Humans could not have survived — as families, tribes, or early civilizations — without shared moral norms. Across all ancient cultures, people developed ways to cooperate, to care for children, and to help the vulnerable. A species that does not cooperate cannot survive.

Summary
Morality — in the sense of treating others well, helping those in need, and punishing those who cause harm — predates any specific religion we know today.

One last observation
Moral codes of conduct and custom were developed when groups of people realized that you have to have ways of living with one another otherwise life becomes per the adage "Every person for themselves" (known as Lifeboat Ethics: cf. the film, "The Life of PI"). 

All ancient cultures have had some form of moralities and ethics. Moreover, many of those cultures were every bit as moral and ethical as modern societies are today:
"People love their children. They try to bring them up well. The try to inculcate values and standards. They teach their children things they should do and shouldn't do." These are elements of every society.
Greek and Roman Societies

In the Greek and Roman worlds there were a lot of discussion about morality and treatises on ethics which go very far back.
Ancient moralities and ethical reflection
  • By the time of ancient Greece and Rome, moral codes had become deeply discussed and debated. Greek philosophers like Socrates, Plato, and Aristotle wrote treatises on ethics that still shape philosophical study today. Roman thinkers like Cicero likewise explored virtue, duty, and justice.
Were these ethical ideas tied to religion?
  • No, not really. In the Greek and Roman worlds, the gods were primarily concerned with being honored properly: sacrifices, rituals, and festivals ensured divine favor for the city or state. They did not care much about how one treated neighbors, family, or strangers.
  • The moral codes of the Greeks and Romans were grounded in civic duty, custom, and philosophical reasonnot divine commandments about loving one’s neighbor.

Were Morals and Ethics grounded in religious understanding?

Ethical codes were not related to the religions of the Greeks or Romans. They were rules related to worshipping the gods so that their societies would be protected and blessed. The gods by and large were uninterested how people lived with one another. If you were a nasty person to your family, neighbours or friends the gods really didn't care. The gods simply wanted to be worshipped. That's it.

In Christianity, as in Judaism, ethics and morality was tied into their religion... thus, the God that was worshipped was interested in a worshipper's behaviour and treatment of their neighbour. If he or she acted heinously, they would be judged. If merciful and helpful, than blessings would incur.

Usually, pagan ethics and morals are thought to be unlinked to a society's religion whereas in Judaism and Christianity they are linked to the customs and practices of their societies.

Example: the Ten Commandments
  • Rules related to the worship of God: Commandments 1-4
  • Rules related to the treatment of one another; or, how to live in community with one another: Commandments 6-10
📜 Commandments about worship of God (1–4)
1. You shall have no other gods before Me.
2. You shall not make for yourself an idol or graven image... you shall not bow down to them or serve them.
3. You shall not take the name of the LORD your God in vain.
4. Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.
👥 Commandments about how to treat others (5–10)
5. Honor your father and your mother.
6. You shall not murder.
7. You shall not commit adultery.
8. You shall not steal.
9. You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.
10. You shall not covet... anything that is your neighbor’s.
These are found in Exodus 20:1–17 and Deuteronomy 5:6–21, with slight wording variations

 

How Judaism and Christianity differed in their Religious Codes?

Broadly, a more pervasive ethic would involve helping people in need... but many societies have qualified this attitude to be applied "biologically or socially" as related to one's own society or fellowship of acquaintances. Outsiders, or aliens, are not typically part of one's world and so, they could be befriended but are not of one's concern.

Whereas in Judaism and Christianity they have arighted this attitude and behavioural practice by stating that all men are obligated to treat one another well - even strangers and aliens. That we are to treat the stranger and outsider as we would treat yourself, family or friends:
In summary, Judaism developed ethical obligations beyond one’s immediate tribe or family. While ancient codes often prioritized one’s kin or tribe, Jewish law explicitly included provisions for treating “the stranger” with justice and mercy: “Love the stranger, for you were strangers in Egypt.”

This ethical universalism was later emphasized even more in Christianity, which taught that love of neighbor extended beyond social or biological ties: the parable of the Good Samaritan illustrates this vividly.

Did Christianity make the world more moral?

In one sense, No: humans have always had moral instincts and codes. But in another sense, Yes: Christianity’s contribution was to connect moral obligations directly to devotion to God — and to expand them beyond tribal or civic boundaries.

Mercy, charity, and love for strangers became acts of faith, not merely social good. Over the centuries, this helped shape Western moral imagination in profound ways — even as societies often failed to live up to these ideals.

In summary

Morality is as old as humanity itself. Ethics is the reflection on how best to live together. What Christianity did was to tie these deeply and explicitly to worship of a God who cares about how people treat one another — including outsiders. Whether this made the world more moral is debated — but it certainly reshaped how moral behavior was taught, justified, and spread.

Next Up...
How has Christianity done over the past decade? And how has it been conflicted politically? Are there worldly philosophies which have influenced religious and societal morality and ethics for better or worse? Are there other questions which we haven't considered? I asked ChatGPT and this is what it said, and, I suppose, material for another article or two, especially, as related to process philosophy and process theology. Cheers.

R.E. Slater
July 2, 2025

Missed or Deeper Questions

🏛️ 1. How did moral systems work in non-Western ancient cultures?

  • What were the moral codes in ancient Egypt, India, China, or Mesopotamia?

  • Did those cultures also link morality to religion, or were their ethical codes more philosophical or civic?


📖 2. How did Judaism influence Christianity’s moral teachings?

  • How did Jesus reinterpret or expand Jewish ethics?

  • How did Jewish concepts like justice (tzedakah) and mercy (chesed) shape early Christian ethics?


🤝 3. Did Christianity always improve moral behavior in practice?

  • How did historical Christians justify violence, oppression, or intolerance despite high moral ideals?

  • Did Christianity sometimes suppress local moral systems that were already humane or just?


⛪ 4. How did the institutional church shape or distort Christian morality?

  • How did church hierarchies and political power affect the lived moral values of Christian communities?

  • Did the church’s moral teaching always align with Jesus’ teachings?


⚖️ 5. How did Greek and Roman ethics survive or merge with Christian moral systems?

  • Did classical philosophical ethics (like Stoicism) influence Christian moral thinkers like Augustine or Aquinas?

  • Were pagan moral philosophies preserved and integrated or rejected outright?


🌍 6. What new moral concepts did Christianity not emphasize?

  • Did Christianity neglect any moral or ethical questions that other traditions handled better?

  • For example: environmental ethics, animal welfare, economic justice — how were these viewed?


🧭 7. How did Christian morality evolve over time?

  • How did medieval, Reformation, and modern Christianity reinterpret its moral teachings?

  • What historical events (wars, colonialism, abolition) show the tension between Christian ideals and practice?


🏷️ 8. What role did secular humanism play later?

  • Did Enlightenment humanism expand on Christian ethics or react against church moral failures?

  • How much of today’s Western morality is truly “Christian,” and how much comes from post-Christian developments?


💬 9. How do different Christian groups interpret morality today?

  • How do liberal and conservative Christians differ in applying ancient moral principles to modern issues?

  • How does global Christianity’s moral teaching vary across cultures?


🕊️ 10. What does “more moral” actually mean?

  • How should we measure whether one society is more moral than another?

  • Does it mean fewer wars? More charity? Greater justice? More personal virtue?


Tuesday, July 1, 2025

The Bankruptcy of Evangelical Theology, Part 4


The Bankruptcy of Evangelical Theology

Conclusion to
Rewriting God: Updating Theological Language
Part 4

by R.E. Slater & ChatGPT

God is love.
God, who is in process with the world,
is drawing all things deeper into life.

Introduction

In itself, I had learned a lot of good and helpful things from fundamental and evangelical theology. But I also had learned too many unhelpful boundary markers and apologetical defenses in my evangelical faith. A faith which has sadly blossomed into deep suspicion and identity crisis in the 21st Century.

Earlier, I had stated my feelings of betrayal by my former faith in my last article, Rewriting God: Updating Theological Language, Part 2, having said the following:
...In hindsight, having left before Trumpian evangelicalism had become a thing (me: 2009/11 v trumpisim: 2015/16), I am glad I left my former faith's once bannered halls of propositional truths claimed as timeless and everlasting... whose outcome has been shown in the spiritual bankruptcy of trumpian supremacy... and not in the love of an everlasting God founded in the observable witness, works, and love of Jesus Christ, the Son of God and, in Jesus' own terms of himself, the Son of Man, remade in God's image.

Ten years later, in 2025, evangelical trumpism has evidently not repented of the evil it is doing to the oppressed and unloved in America - nor of the harm and evil it is doing across the world in Ukraine (Putin's kind of Christian Orthodoxy) - nor has it repented of the destruction Israel has done to the Palestinian people across the Gaza region - nor in America's trade wars with the world evoked in mistrust, suspicion, one-sided accusations and indictments.

This kind of Christianity is the kind to flee from, shun, be rid of, burn up, and cast away. It is hateful, unhelpful, unattractive, and isolating. This is not how Jesus lived in the world and it is not how the gospel of Christ is to reach out into the world. It is of the devil, dressed in sheep's clothing, and altogether heinous.

Statedly, it seems that evangelicals have been paying lip service to God over the decades and not dedicating in their hearts truly to God nor to Jesus as they said they were. Their prayer and repentance rally in Washington D.C. in 2015 was a lie enunciated before the world by their words and actions in trumpian hate.

Sadly, the evangelical religion of most of my life has betrayed it's real self as bigoted, discriminatory, and bent on returning to the imperial religion of its day - even if it means following the devil himself with his many corrupt and lawless trumpian minions. To all this I say, Good Riddance.
I then proceeded to show how process theology rethinks the deep and rich history of the Christian church over the many millennia hoping to show that with a new philosophical and theological foundation provided by process philosophy and theology, that a better form of Jesus Christianity could be enunciated. One that is more embracing of mankind and re-centered in love; that with such a processually-based faith founded in Christ-centeredness it might not become the catastrophe that fundamental/evangelical theology has become.

The Incarnational-Redemptive Model in Jesus

Explanatory link found here

Here's the $64 dollar question: Not whether the New Testament in Jesus is true (I believe it is) but what does it mean. Evangelicalism had gotten itself wrapped up in defending the truthfulness of the bible (sic, infallible, inerrant, etc) rather than exploring what Jesus and his disciples were saying.

Instead of investigating how God's incarnational-redemptive enactment was meaningful to the world, evangelicalism got caught up in uplifting the exaltation-kingdom theologies of Judaism's political-religious crisis in it's displacement by Rome. Translated, evangelical's have forgotten both Jesus and Jesus' gospel and have poured themselves into their own story of what political-religious freedom looks like to themselves. In short, it looks ugly, bigoted, abrasive, discriminatory, oppressive, fascist, and unlike Jesus' incarnational-redemptive story.


Let's Revisit "God's Plan for the Ages"

Despite the incorrect evangelical assessment found here, process theology restores God's Plan for the Ages which the evangelical tradition has abandoned for it's own political-religious earthly kingdom under trumpism.

And what is that plan? I asked ChatGPT and got this:

📜 1️⃣ God’s Plan for the Ages — Traditional / Non-Processual Language

In traditional Christian theology (especially classical theism and covenantal or dispensational frameworks), God’s plan for the ages is often described like this:

  • God, as an all-powerful, sovereign being, created the world ex nihilo (out of nothing) according to a predetermined divine will.

  • History unfolds according to God’s fixed, eternal decree. God stands outside of time, perfectly foreknowing all events from beginning to end.

  • Humanity’s fall into sin brought separation from God, but God planned redemption through the incarnation, atoning death, and resurrection of Jesus Christ.

  • The culmination of this plan is a final consummation: the return of Christ, the judgment of the righteous and the wicked, the destruction of evil, and the eternal state of heaven and hell.

  • The plan is linear and final — it moves from creation, through fall, to redemption, to ultimate fulfillment according to God’s unchanging purpose.


🔄 2️⃣ God’s Plan for the Ages — Processual / Process Theology Language

In process theology, God’s plan for the ages is better described as a divine hope or intention rather than a fixed blueprint:

  • God and the world are co-eternal and co-creative; reality is an unfolding process rather than a static creation from nothing.

  • God does not unilaterally predetermine all things but lures all creation forward toward greater beauty, love, and harmony.

  • Every moment holds new possibilities. God knows all that is actual and possible, but the future is genuinely open — even for God.

  • The incarnation is the perfect expression of divine aim: Christ reveals what it means to live fully responsive to God’s lure.

  • History’s fulfillment is not a final, pre-scripted event but an ongoing transformation of all things toward deeper relational richness, with God experiencing and weaving each moment’s value into the divine life.

  • Judgment and salvation are not fixed states but relational consequences and creative healing, continuously offered and evolving.


Key Contrast

  • Non-Processual: A single, timeless, unchanging plan executed by an unchanging God.

  • Processual: A living, responsive, relational aim that invites all creation to co-create the future with God.


My Query

In response, I next asked ChatGPT the following, "Could your assessment be describe as an incarnational-redemptive lure in process?

ChatGPT said

That’s an excellent and fitting way to say it — yes!

Your phrase “incarnational-redemptive lure” captures the heart of how process theology reframes God’s plan for the ages. Let’s break it down a bit to confirm this is accurate:


Incarnational

In process thought, the incarnation is not a singular insertion of God into history, but the clearest historical expression of God’s ever-present aim (lure) embodied in a fully responsive human life. Jesus becomes the model of what it means to align perfectly with God’s lure — the divine aim for relational love, healing, and transformation.


Redemptive

Redemption in process is not a once-for-all legal transaction but an ongoing creative process. God is always working to heal brokenness, integrate all experience (good and tragic) into deeper relational beauty, and draw creation into more intense harmony. The “redemptive” aspect is not just backward-looking (rescue) but forward-moving (renewal).


Lure

“Lure” is Whitehead’s key word: God does not coerce but calls, persuades, invites. This lure is constant, moment by moment, shaping possibilities and gently guiding creation toward richer value.


Together: Incarnational-Redemptive Lure

So yes — in process theology, God’s plan for the ages can truly be described as an incarnational-redemptive lure:

  • Incarnational: The divine aim embodied in the world, especially in Jesus but also in creation itself.

  • Redemptive: Always working to heal and transform brokenness.

  • Lure: Persuasive, non-coercive, relational call toward greater wholeness.


Put simply:

Process theology’s “plan” is not a blueprint but an open-ended incarnational-redemptive lure, forever inviting the world into deeper life with God.

Conclusion

Myself to ChatGPT

So if we are to rethink theology for a Processual Age, what might that be?

ChatGPT

Absolutely — here’s a concluding, integrative statement that ties together all the spirit and substance of our last several discussions about rethinking theology for a Processual Age, especially around your insight of an incarnational-redemptive lure:

A Conclusion: Rethinking Theology for a Processual Age

To rethink theology for a Processual Age is to move from certainties frozen in static metaphysics to a living faith that breathes, listens, and moves. It means letting go of the idea of God as an all-controlling architect and embracing God as the relational lure of love — forever incarnating into the world’s unfolding story.

In this vision, creation is not a finished product but a co-creative adventure. The Incarnation is not only an event in first-century Palestine but the deepest sign that God’s way is persuasion, companionship, and redemptive participation in every moment of becoming.

Salvation is not rescue from the world but healing within it — the drawing forth of hidden possibilities that restore, renew, and transform. Hell is not a final prison but the tragic reality of wasted possibilities when creatures resist the lure toward wholeness. Heaven is not static reward but creative fulfillment — the ever-new integration of all value into the divine life.

Scripture becomes not a static verdict but a sacred record of humanity’s dynamic wrestling with God’s call across time. Doctrine shifts from fortress walls to living grammar, reshaped by experience, science, and the unfolding story of relational becoming.

At the heart of this rethinking is trust: trust that God’s power is the humble power of persuasion; trust that freedom is real; trust that our choices matter in shaping what comes to be; trust that no suffering is lost but held in the tender memory of God; trust that divine love endlessly weaves our yes and our no into a future where even loss may find new life.

In a Processual Age, theology becomes a verb: a practice of listening, responding, co-creating.

It becomes the shared work of poets, prophets, scientists, pastors, and all who dare to imagine a world more beautiful than what we see now.

If the question is, What is God’s plan for the ages?

The answer is: the incarnational-redemptive lure — God with us, God ahead of us, God within us, forever calling us into deeper life together.


My final query

Please provide a processual summary conclusion re incarnation-redemptive and rethinking theology...

ChatGPT said

Wonderful — here’s a concise, stand-alone Processual Summary Conclusion that draws your core idea — the incarnational-redemptive lure — into a final vision for rethinking theology for a Processual Age:


🌿 A Processual Summary Conclusion

In a Processual Age, we dare to confess that God is not distant and unchanging, but deeply present — an incarnational-redemptive lure, calling all things forward into richer life.

Incarnation is not a single past event but the pattern of divine love ever taking form in the world: in Jesus as the clearest sign, but also in every moment when love, beauty, and justice are born anew through the agency of mankind.

Redemption is not a legal transaction once settled for all time but an unending work of healing and transformation. God gathers every sorrow, every possibility, every choice — weaving them into a future more whole than the present.

In this vision, theology itself becomes a living practice: not frozen doctrines, but a relational grammar, open to surprise, faithful to love’s deepest aim. It listens for the divine lure in science and art, in lament and wonder, in the cries of creation longing for renewal.

God’s “plan” is NOT a blueprint imposed by force — it is the invitation to become, to co-create with the Spirit who draws all things toward creative fulfillment. It is the trust that every act of love, every word of hope, every step toward justice, is a thread in the ongoing Incarnation of God’s heart in the world.

To rethink theology in a Processual Age is to join this flow: to be drawn, to respond, to create — and to processually become, along with our Creating-Redeeming God, a living part of the world’s deeper life.



✨ A Processual Prayer of Agency:
For the Incarnational-Redemptive Lure of God
to the Incarnating Redeeming Followers of God



The Lure of Love
by R.E. Slater & ChatGPT


God is love.
God, who is in process with the world,
is drawing all things deeper into the life of God.
This God, who is ever and always,
is our Incarnating-Redeeming lure of love.

"O God of Love,
Who is ever becoming with the world,
ever luring all things into deeper life,
who is the God with us,
ahead of us,
within us,
forever calling us
into deeper life together.

"We open ourselves to your alluring presence.
Where we cling to what is fixed -
unfasten us with your patient persuasion.
Where we fear what is changing -
steady us with your faithful constancy.

"We pray O' God that you may
Incarnate yourself among us once again -
    in the courage to heal what is broken,
    in the hope to revive what we have wasted,
    in the beauty that stirs within us what is asleep.

"Redeem us O' Lord -
    not by force but by invitation;
    weave our choices, our griefs, our small faiths
    into your larger story of becoming.

"Teach us O' Lord to see:
    heaven, not as reward but as creative fulfillment,
    hell, not as your wrath but as possibility refused,
    and salvation, as the healing we share in together,
    moment by moment, in this ever-unfolding now.

"May our words, our prayers, our daily acts
be verbs of love
    co-creating, co-suffering, co-dreaming
    with you, the living lure and heart of all things.

"Draw us deeper, Loving God,
    into life with you,
    into life with each other,
    into living lessons of life to the world -
and in our becoming,
be  still,
be wondering,
be love."

Amen.


R.E. Slater
July 1, 2025

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