Quotes & Sayings


We, and creation itself, actualize the possibilities of the God who sustains the world, towards becoming in the world in a fuller, more deeper way. - R.E. Slater

There is urgency in coming to see the world as a web of interrelated processes of which we are integral parts, so that all of our choices and actions have [consequential effects upon] the world around us. - Process Metaphysician Alfred North Whitehead

Kurt Gödel's Incompleteness Theorem says (i) all closed systems are unprovable within themselves and, that (ii) all open systems are rightly understood as incomplete. - R.E. Slater

The most true thing about you is what God has said to you in Christ, "You are My Beloved." - Tripp Fuller

The God among us is the God who refuses to be God without us, so great is God's Love. - Tripp Fuller

According to some Christian outlooks we were made for another world. Perhaps, rather, we were made for this world to recreate, reclaim, redeem, and renew unto God's future aspiration by the power of His Spirit. - R.E. Slater

Our eschatological ethos is to love. To stand with those who are oppressed. To stand against those who are oppressing. It is that simple. Love is our only calling and Christian Hope. - R.E. Slater

Secularization theory has been massively falsified. We don't live in an age of secularity. We live in an age of explosive, pervasive religiosity... an age of religious pluralism. - Peter L. Berger

Exploring the edge of life and faith in a post-everything world. - Todd Littleton

I don't need another reason to believe, your love is all around for me to see. – Anon

Thou art our need; and in giving us more of thyself thou givest us all. - Khalil Gibran, Prayer XXIII

Be careful what you pretend to be. You become what you pretend to be. - Kurt Vonnegut

Religious beliefs, far from being primary, are often shaped and adjusted by our social goals. - Jim Forest

We become who we are by what we believe and can justify. - R.E. Slater

People, even more than things, need to be restored, renewed, revived, reclaimed, and redeemed; never throw out anyone. – Anon

Certainly, God's love has made fools of us all. - R.E. Slater

An apocalyptic Christian faith doesn't wait for Jesus to come, but for Jesus to become in our midst. - R.E. Slater

Christian belief in God begins with the cross and resurrection of Jesus, not with rational apologetics. - Eberhard Jüngel, Jürgen Moltmann

Our knowledge of God is through the 'I-Thou' encounter, not in finding God at the end of a syllogism or argument. There is a grave danger in any Christian treatment of God as an object. The God of Jesus Christ and Scripture is irreducibly subject and never made as an object, a force, a power, or a principle that can be manipulated. - Emil Brunner

“Ehyeh Asher Ehyeh” means "I will be that who I have yet to become." - God (Ex 3.14) or, conversely, “I AM who I AM Becoming.”

Our job is to love others without stopping to inquire whether or not they are worthy. - Thomas Merton

The church is God's world-changing social experiment of bringing unlikes and differents to the Eucharist/Communion table to share life with one another as a new kind of family. When this happens, we show to the world what love, justice, peace, reconciliation, and life together is designed by God to be. The church is God's show-and-tell for the world to see how God wants us to live as a blended, global, polypluralistic family united with one will, by one Lord, and baptized by one Spirit. – Anon

The cross that is planted at the heart of the history of the world cannot be uprooted. - Jacques Ellul

The Unity in whose loving presence the universe unfolds is inside each person as a call to welcome the stranger, protect animals and the earth, respect the dignity of each person, think new thoughts, and help bring about ecological civilizations. - John Cobb & Farhan A. Shah

If you board the wrong train it is of no use running along the corridors of the train in the other direction. - Dietrich Bonhoeffer

God's justice is restorative rather than punitive; His discipline is merciful rather than punishing; His power is made perfect in weakness; and His grace is sufficient for all. – Anon

Our little [biblical] systems have their day; they have their day and cease to be. They are but broken lights of Thee, and Thou, O God art more than they. - Alfred Lord Tennyson

We can’t control God; God is uncontrollable. God can’t control us; God’s love is uncontrolling! - Thomas Jay Oord

Life in perspective but always in process... as we are relational beings in process to one another, so life events are in process in relation to each event... as God is to Self, is to world, is to us... like Father, like sons and daughters, like events... life in process yet always in perspective. - R.E. Slater

To promote societal transition to sustainable ways of living and a global society founded on a shared ethical framework which includes respect and care for the community of life, ecological integrity, universal human rights, respect for diversity, economic justice, democracy, and a culture of peace. - The Earth Charter Mission Statement

Christian humanism is the belief that human freedom, individual conscience, and unencumbered rational inquiry are compatible with the practice of Christianity or even intrinsic in its doctrine. It represents a philosophical union of Christian faith and classical humanist principles. - Scott Postma

It is never wise to have a self-appointed religious institution determine a nation's moral code. The opportunities for moral compromise and failure are high; the moral codes and creeds assuredly racist, discriminatory, or subjectively and religiously defined; and the pronouncement of inhumanitarian political objectives quite predictable. - R.E. Slater

God's love must both center and define the Christian faith and all religious or human faiths seeking human and ecological balance in worlds of subtraction, harm, tragedy, and evil. - R.E. Slater

In Whitehead’s process ontology, we can think of the experiential ground of reality as an eternal pulse whereby what is objectively public in one moment becomes subjectively prehended in the next, and whereby the subject that emerges from its feelings then perishes into public expression as an object (or “superject”) aiming for novelty. There is a rhythm of Being between object and subject, not an ontological division. This rhythm powers the creative growth of the universe from one occasion of experience to the next. This is the Whiteheadian mantra: “The many become one and are increased by one.” - Matthew Segall

Without Love there is no Truth. And True Truth is always Loving. There is no dichotomy between these terms but only seamless integration. This is the premier centering focus of a Processual Theology of Love. - R.E. Slater

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Wednesday, July 2, 2025

Has Christianity Failed It's Own Morality Tests?


Has Christianity Failed
It's Own Morality Tests?
PART 2

by R.E. Slater & ChatGPT


From the last article, "Did Christianity Make the World More Moral?" I ended by asking "How Christianity has done over the past decade?" And whether "Christianity has been conflicted politically over the eons?"

Let me ask these questions of you... how would you respond to each query?

Myself, I suspect Christianity has failed a lot more than it has succeeded... but is this speculation overly cynical or more historically correct?

Again, what do you think?

Now, let's go to the Internet and find out....

I.

Determining whether Christianity, or any religion, has made the world "more moral" is a complex and highly debated question with arguments on both sides. 

Arguments for a positive impact on morality:
  • Emphasis on Love and Compassion: Christian teachings, particularly those of Jesus, stress the importance of love for God and neighbor, forgiveness, and compassion, which proponents argue have shaped Western attitudes toward charity, disaster response, and social responsibility.
  • Influence on Human Rights: The concept of humans being created in the image of God (Imago Dei), central to Christian belief, promotes inherent human dignity and worth, which some argue influenced the development of human rights and movements like abolitionism.
  • Social Justice Advocacy: Throughout history and in recent times, Christian groups have been involved in advocating for social justice, supporting marginalized communities, and promoting human rights.
  • Moral Education: Christian teachings have played a role in shaping moral and ethical education, emphasizing values like love, forgiveness, and compassion, and contributing to the development of many modern educational systems. 
Arguments for a negative or complex impact on morality:
  • Historical Actions: Critics point to historical events like religious wars, crusades, witch hunts, and oppression within religious institutions as evidence of harm caused in the name of Christianity.
  • Use of Authority and Control: Some argue that Christianity has been used as a tool for social control and power, rather than solely promoting morality, citing historical examples of the Church resisting ideas like human rights and equality.
  • Harsh Punishments: Historically, the Christianization of the Roman Empire, for example, saw judicial penalties become harsher and the use of torture more common. 
Regarding the last decade:
  • Sources indicate a continued focus within Christian ethics on social justice and engagement with contemporary issues, while also grappling with maintaining traditional moral frameworks in a more secularized world.
  • Some reports suggest a decline in the public embrace of "absolute moral truth" that has been historically associated with a biblical worldview. 
Regarding Christianity's political involvement:
  • Christianity has been involved in politics throughout its history, from early Christians navigating a hostile Roman Empire to later influencing the laws and policies of nations.
  • Different interpretations of Christian ethics have led to varying stances on political issues, with viewpoints ranging from pacifism to just war theory, and differing perspectives on the role of the Church in relation to the state.
  • Christian ethics has been invoked to support both traditional and progressive political positions, highlighting the diversity of perspectives within Christianity. 
In summary:
Christianity has undoubtedly played a significant role in shaping moral and ethical frameworks throughout history, contributing to concepts like human dignity and social justice. However, its history also includes instances of actions carried out in its name that are viewed as contrary to its core teachings, making the question of its overall moral impact a complex and contested one. In the last decade, Christian ethics continues to navigate societal changes while addressing contemporary issues, and its engagement with the political sphere remains multifaceted and varied.

MY ASSESSMENT:

AI punted. It gave a calibrated answer to assuage the emotional feelings of many readers. Let's try again, this time asking ChatGPT....

II.

📜 1️⃣ Has Christianity made the world more moral in practice?

At its best, Christianity introduced (and globalized) moral ideas that reshaped cultures:

  • The radical idea that love of neighbor is inseparable from love of God (Jesus’ Great Commandment).

  • The call to forgive enemies, bless the poor, care for widows, orphans, the sick — charity as worship.

  • The moral worth of all persons as bearers of the divine image, which inspired abolitionist movements, universal education, hospitals, and human rights arguments in later centuries.

Yet these ideals have always existed in tension with the realities of power:

  • Medieval crusades and inquisitions did not reflect Christ’s nonviolence.

  • Colonial expansions were justified under a Christian banner while exploiting and erasing indigenous moral systems.

  • Churches often defended slavery, segregation, and patriarchy long after secular movements began to challenge them.

  • Sexual abuse scandals have exposed deep hypocrisies where institutions protected themselves over victims.

So historically, Christianity has made moral ideas more universal — but not always more practiced.

Its ideals often clashed with its political or institutional self-interest.



🇺🇸 2️⃣ Christianity in modern America — this past decade

In the last decade, the public perception of Christianity in the U.S. has shifted dramatically:

  • Many Christians still live out radical generosity, justice work, refugee aid, prison ministries, and peacemaking.

  • However, “Christianity” in the public square is now often associated with culture wars, partisan politics, and nationalist rhetoric — sometimes at odds with core teachings of Jesus.

  • Evangelical movements in particular have become heavily identified with political tribalism rather than sacrificial love or care for the marginalized.

  • Younger generations increasingly see “Christian” as a brand associated with judgment rather than mercy — ironically reversing the radical moral witness of Jesus who befriended outcasts.

So while millions of ordinary Christians live out deep moral faithfulness, the institutional or public face of American Christianity has often aligned itself with divisive politics, sometimes sacrificing moral credibility in the process.



⚔️ 3️⃣ How politically conflicted has Christianity been over the eons?

Always. From Constantine onward, Christianity has lived a double life:

  • As a radical minority faith challenging power (martyrs, monks, reformers, prophets).

  • And as a religion deeply entangled with political power (emperors, kings, state churches).

Key tensions:

  • Medieval popes crowned kings yet saints called out corruption.

  • Reformation movements fought each other — often violently — over doctrinal and political control.

  • Christianity has backed monarchies, colonial empires, revolutions, and republics. It has blessed kings and dethroned them.

  • Liberation theologians stand alongside the poor while national churches often stand alongside strongmen.

In modern America, the tension is visible again: some churches speak truth to power, some fuse faith with nationalism, some withdraw to rebuild local communities of justice and mercy.



⚖️ So — did Christianity make the world more moral?

  • In principle: It gave the world a God who cares about how we treat others — including the stranger and the enemy. That vision deeply shaped the moral imagination of the West and beyond.

  • In practice: Christians have often failed to live by that vision, especially when aligned too closely with political power.

  • Today: Christianity’s moral credibility in America is strained by its entanglement with divisive politics — yet it still inspires millions to do quiet, radical good that rarely makes headlines.



🕰️ A Timeline: Christianity, Morality & Political Conflict


🌱 1–4th centuries: Radical Minority

  • c. 30–33 CE: Jesus of Nazareth teaches radical love, forgiveness, mercy for enemies, and care for the poor. Crucified by the Roman state.

  • 1st–3rd centuries: Early Christians form underground communities; known for charity (care for widows, orphans, the sick) and refusing emperor worship.

  • Christians are persecuted for not sacrificing to Roman gods — they refuse to blend faith and imperial power.


⚔️ 4th century: Marriage with Empire

  • 313 CE: Constantine’s Edict of Milan legalizes Christianity. Christianity gains imperial favor.

  • 380 CE: Theodosius makes Christianity the Roman Empire’s official religion. Pagan temples close.

  • Christianity shifts from persecuted sect to state religion — moral ideals merge with imperial politics.


🏰 5th–10th centuries: Christendom & Empire

  • The church becomes a major landholder and power broker in Europe.

  • Missionaries convert tribes by baptizing whole kingdoms — sometimes peaceful, sometimes enforced.

  • Monastic movements (Benedictines, Irish monks) preserve learning, feed the poor, care for the sick — small moral communities amid violent feudal power.


⚔️ 11th–13th centuries: Crusades & Inquisition

  • 1095–1291: Crusades launched to reclaim Jerusalem — mixed motives: religious zeal, economic gain, political expansion.

  • Church-sanctioned violence contradicts Jesus’ nonviolence.

  • Medieval Inquisitions root out heresy — often brutal — showing the danger of moral certainty wielded by institutional power.


✝️ 14th–16th centuries: Reform & Splinter

  • Late Middle Ages: Critics like Wycliffe, Hus, Erasmus call out church corruption.

  • 1517: Martin Luther’s Reformation ignites religious wars but also returns focus to conscience, personal faith, and moral renewal.

  • Protestant sects split endlessly — many motivated by differing visions of moral society and governance.


🌍 16th–19th centuries: Missions & Empire

  • European empires expand land grabs globally — missionaries spread Christianity alongside colonizers.

  • Some missions defend indigenous rights (e.g., Bartolomé de las Casas in the Americas).

  • Others justify conquest and cultural erasure.

  • Christian moral vision inspires early human rights ideas but often compromised by complicity with empire.


18th–19th centuries: Abolition & Social Reform

  • Early Evangelicals and Quakers lead anti-slavery movements (e.g., William Wilberforce in Britain).

  • Many churches defend slavery in the U.S. — the Bible is used on both sides.

  • Christian women’s movements push education, hospitals, child labor laws, and prison reform.


⚖️ 20th century: Conflicting Witness

  • Civil Rights Movement: Black churches drive nonviolent resistance (MLK’s vision deeply Christian).

  • Holocaust: Raises hard questions about European churches’ failures to oppose fascism — many Christians resisted heroically, many did not.

  • Vatican II reforms Catholicism’s approach to modern ethics and politics.

  • Rise of Christian fundamentalism: morality shifts to culture wars (abortion, school prayer, sexuality).


🇺🇸 21st century: Fragment & Struggle

  • Global Christianity explodes in the Global South — moral focus often on poverty, justice, and reconciliation.

  • In the U.S., Christianity splits further:

    • Some align closely with nationalist, partisan politics.

    • Others double down on social justice, climate, refugee care.

  • Sexual abuse scandals in churches (Catholic and Protestant) erode moral trust.

  • Younger generations increasingly distrust “organized Christianity” — but many still follow Jesus’ moral teachings in new forms.


Big Pattern

Where Christianity stays close to the radical moral teachings of Jesus, it has inspired profound good. Where it marries power, it often contradicts its own moral heart.

 

Illustration by R.E. Slater & ChatGPT

 
Illustration by R.E. Slater & ChatGPT


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