Quotes & Sayings


We, and creation itself, actualize the possibilities of the God who sustains the world, towards becoming in the world in a fuller, more deeper way. - R.E. Slater

There is urgency in coming to see the world as a web of interrelated processes of which we are integral parts, so that all of our choices and actions have [consequential effects upon] the world around us. - Process Metaphysician Alfred North Whitehead

Kurt Gödel's Incompleteness Theorem says (i) all closed systems are unprovable within themselves and, that (ii) all open systems are rightly understood as incomplete. - R.E. Slater

The most true thing about you is what God has said to you in Christ, "You are My Beloved." - Tripp Fuller

The God among us is the God who refuses to be God without us, so great is God's Love. - Tripp Fuller

According to some Christian outlooks we were made for another world. Perhaps, rather, we were made for this world to recreate, reclaim, redeem, and renew unto God's future aspiration by the power of His Spirit. - R.E. Slater

Our eschatological ethos is to love. To stand with those who are oppressed. To stand against those who are oppressing. It is that simple. Love is our only calling and Christian Hope. - R.E. Slater

Secularization theory has been massively falsified. We don't live in an age of secularity. We live in an age of explosive, pervasive religiosity... an age of religious pluralism. - Peter L. Berger

Exploring the edge of life and faith in a post-everything world. - Todd Littleton

I don't need another reason to believe, your love is all around for me to see. – Anon

Thou art our need; and in giving us more of thyself thou givest us all. - Khalil Gibran, Prayer XXIII

Be careful what you pretend to be. You become what you pretend to be. - Kurt Vonnegut

Religious beliefs, far from being primary, are often shaped and adjusted by our social goals. - Jim Forest

We become who we are by what we believe and can justify. - R.E. Slater

People, even more than things, need to be restored, renewed, revived, reclaimed, and redeemed; never throw out anyone. – Anon

Certainly, God's love has made fools of us all. - R.E. Slater

An apocalyptic Christian faith doesn't wait for Jesus to come, but for Jesus to become in our midst. - R.E. Slater

Christian belief in God begins with the cross and resurrection of Jesus, not with rational apologetics. - Eberhard Jüngel, Jürgen Moltmann

Our knowledge of God is through the 'I-Thou' encounter, not in finding God at the end of a syllogism or argument. There is a grave danger in any Christian treatment of God as an object. The God of Jesus Christ and Scripture is irreducibly subject and never made as an object, a force, a power, or a principle that can be manipulated. - Emil Brunner

“Ehyeh Asher Ehyeh” means "I will be that who I have yet to become." - God (Ex 3.14) or, conversely, “I AM who I AM Becoming.”

Our job is to love others without stopping to inquire whether or not they are worthy. - Thomas Merton

The church is God's world-changing social experiment of bringing unlikes and differents to the Eucharist/Communion table to share life with one another as a new kind of family. When this happens, we show to the world what love, justice, peace, reconciliation, and life together is designed by God to be. The church is God's show-and-tell for the world to see how God wants us to live as a blended, global, polypluralistic family united with one will, by one Lord, and baptized by one Spirit. – Anon

The cross that is planted at the heart of the history of the world cannot be uprooted. - Jacques Ellul

The Unity in whose loving presence the universe unfolds is inside each person as a call to welcome the stranger, protect animals and the earth, respect the dignity of each person, think new thoughts, and help bring about ecological civilizations. - John Cobb & Farhan A. Shah

If you board the wrong train it is of no use running along the corridors of the train in the other direction. - Dietrich Bonhoeffer

God's justice is restorative rather than punitive; His discipline is merciful rather than punishing; His power is made perfect in weakness; and His grace is sufficient for all. – Anon

Our little [biblical] systems have their day; they have their day and cease to be. They are but broken lights of Thee, and Thou, O God art more than they. - Alfred Lord Tennyson

We can’t control God; God is uncontrollable. God can’t control us; God’s love is uncontrolling! - Thomas Jay Oord

Life in perspective but always in process... as we are relational beings in process to one another, so life events are in process in relation to each event... as God is to Self, is to world, is to us... like Father, like sons and daughters, like events... life in process yet always in perspective. - R.E. Slater

To promote societal transition to sustainable ways of living and a global society founded on a shared ethical framework which includes respect and care for the community of life, ecological integrity, universal human rights, respect for diversity, economic justice, democracy, and a culture of peace. - The Earth Charter Mission Statement

Christian humanism is the belief that human freedom, individual conscience, and unencumbered rational inquiry are compatible with the practice of Christianity or even intrinsic in its doctrine. It represents a philosophical union of Christian faith and classical humanist principles. - Scott Postma

It is never wise to have a self-appointed religious institution determine a nation's moral code. The opportunities for moral compromise and failure are high; the moral codes and creeds assuredly racist, discriminatory, or subjectively and religiously defined; and the pronouncement of inhumanitarian political objectives quite predictable. - R.E. Slater

God's love must both center and define the Christian faith and all religious or human faiths seeking human and ecological balance in worlds of subtraction, harm, tragedy, and evil. - R.E. Slater

In Whitehead’s process ontology, we can think of the experiential ground of reality as an eternal pulse whereby what is objectively public in one moment becomes subjectively prehended in the next, and whereby the subject that emerges from its feelings then perishes into public expression as an object (or “superject”) aiming for novelty. There is a rhythm of Being between object and subject, not an ontological division. This rhythm powers the creative growth of the universe from one occasion of experience to the next. This is the Whiteheadian mantra: “The many become one and are increased by one.” - Matthew Segall

Without Love there is no Truth. And True Truth is always Loving. There is no dichotomy between these terms but only seamless integration. This is the premier centering focus of a Processual Theology of Love. - R.E. Slater

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Note: Generally I do not respond to commentary. I may read the comments but wish to reserve my time to write (or write from the comments I read). Instead, I'd like to see our community help one another and in the helping encourage and exhort each of us towards Christian love in Christ Jesus our Lord and Savior. - re slater

Saturday, November 9, 2024

What is Process Panexperientialism?



In each fleeting moment,
all things touch,
alive with the pulse of experience,
woven in a web of becoming.

- re slater


 

Each spark of feeling,
from stone to star,
joins the dance of the world—
we are all in relationship
from atomic force to sentient being.

- re slater


In the heart of process,
each is both subject and object,
bound in a web of shared experience,
becoming, always becoming....

- re slater


[All brackets are mine] - re slater


Panexperientialist theologies begin with the idea that experience is fundamental to the whole of things. Long before there was life on earth, and before the evolution of the earth itself, there was something like experience. The entire ongoing of the evolution of the cosmic universe is an evolution of experience. Experience is not consciousness. Consciousness is an emergent property just as time is [e.g., cosmic space creates time, thus making of time an emergent property of physical space].

Some experience is conscious but much not. Experience is the activity of "prehending something other" and being influenced by what is prehended. This page outlines one version of a panexperientialist theology rooted in the philosophy of Alfred North Whitehead. Others can likewise be developed: indigenous theologies, Hindu theologies, Buddhist theologies, Jewish theologies, Muslim theologies, and Christian theologies. All would begin with the shared idea that experience is everywhere and that the universe itself is, in some deep sense, a "living cosmos" that is new at every moment.

- Jay McDaniel



The universe hums with feeling,
from the smallest atom to the deepest soul,
experiencing, creating, in
endless flows of connection.

- re slater


All things feel,
all things are touched,
all worlds unfold in the
meeting of things,
hearts and minds.

- re slater


In every pulse of time,
there is a meeting of souls,
as all things arise together -
in symphonies of shared
experience.

- re slater


​Panexperiential Theology

A Living Cosmos and the
Perpetual Newness of God

by Jay McDaniel


In the flow of process,
we are neither fixed nor free,
but woven in the fabric of the now,
experiencing each other’s becoming.

- re slater


What is Panexperientialism?


Panexperientialism is the idea that "experience" is not confined to human consciousness but extends throughout the depths of matter and into the vast reaches of the galaxies. Understood in this way, "experience" need not involve consciousness as in clear perception (e.g. visual awareness). Nor need it involve intellectual awareness as in the conscious reflection on ideas, memories, or goals. Experience can be non-conscious and non-intellectual but still be "experience." It is the activity of feeling or "prehending" something other and being influenced by it in some way. Wherever energetic transactions occur between entities—whether among living cells, atomic events, or stellar processes—experience is present, as it is, of course, in human beings and other animals, serving as the connective tissue between entities. It carries an element of interiority or "subjective immediacy," suggesting that something akin to subjectivity exists universally. Consequently, the objective world we see, hear, and touch is an expression of this pervasive subjectivity. The objective world, then, is an objectification of subjective experience.

One value of this way of looking at things is that it encourages us to live with respect and care for the whole of the material world, both biological and trans-biological. Another is that it invites us to imagine sacrality itself as part of, not apart from, a panexperiential world.

Entire theological frameworks--panexperientialist theologies—can be constructed on this foundation. They begin with the idea that experience is fundamental, not simply to human life but to the whole of things. This page outlines one version of a panexperientialist theology rooted in the philosophy of Alfred North Whitehead. Others can likewise be developed: indigenous theologies, Hindu theologies, Buddhist theologies, Jewish theologies, Muslim theologies, and Christian theologies. All would begin with the shared idea that the universe, one way or another, is alive with subjective immediacy, valuable in its own right.
Outline of a Whiteheadian Approach

Cosmic Evolution and the Emergence of Life

The universe, approximately 14 billion years old, has evolved through stars, galaxies, and planets, eventually giving rise to life on Earth. It is still evolving. Conventional vs. Panexperiential Views of Experience
A common view holds that early cosmic processes were devoid of experience, with subjective awareness emerging only later with biological life. Whitehead offers a different perspective, suggesting that experience—however primitive—has been present from the universe’s beginning.

Energy as Feeling

For Whitehead, energy and feeling are inseparable; even subatomic events involve basic forms of attraction, repulsion, and responsiveness. Every transfer of energy involves not just physical force but also a rudimentary kind of subjective experience, or "prehension."

Quantum Events and Human Experience

Whitehead suggests a continuity between quantum events and human experiences, where both involve moments of responsiveness without requiring self-awareness. Human experience consists mostly of preconscious sensations, emotions, and bodily awareness—similar in essence to quantum interactions.

Spontaneity and Self-Creativity

Neither quantum events nor human experiences are entirely determined by the past; each involves spontaneity and creativity. Whitehead describes this as “self-creativity,” where unfulfilled possibilities shape the present and help guide it toward novel outcomes.

Prehension as Felt Connections

Prehension is the process by which events integrate past influences and potential futures into each unfolding moment. This process involves more than information transfer—it includes a felt connection with possibilities, guiding each moment toward satisfaction and fulfillment.

Seeking Intensity through Contrasts

Both quantum events and human experiences seek intensity, achieved through the integration of contrasting elements. This contrast fosters novelty and depth in human emotions and in cosmic processes, enriching the creative advance of the universe.

Inanimate Objects and Prehending Events

Even seemingly inanimate objects, like rocks, consist of prehending events at the quantum level, though they lack spontaneity and self-organization. Whitehead distinguishes between mechanical unities (e.g., rocks) and organic unities, where interactions create emergent complexity and self-organization.

Value as Intrinsic to the Universe

Experience inherently carries value, with each moment seeking satisfaction and self-enjoyment. Value exists in the act of becoming itself, independent of consciousness, and is woven into the evolving universe from the very beginning.

The Universe as a Creative Advance into Novelty At the heart of Whitehead’s process philosophy is the idea that the universe is a continual creative advance into novelty. Reality consists of moments of experience that, through their spontaneous self-creativity, add something new to the unfolding process of time. Creativity, in this view, is not merely a property of particular beings but the ultimate reality underlying all things. It is through this ceaseless creativity that both order and novelty emerge in every moment of the universe. This advance into novelty makes life unpredictable, opening space for innovation and transformation at every level—from quantum events to human choices.

God as the Lure of Beauty

God participates in the unfolding cosmos by offering potentialities—called "eternal objects"—that guide events toward beauty and fulfillment. As both a source of new possibilities and a receptive presence for all experiences, God embodies a dynamic relationship with the universe, inviting every moment to contribute to the evolving harmony of creation.

The Perpetual Newness of God. God is evolving is that new events that happen in the universe, given its creative advance into novelty, add contents to the life of God that not exist to be felt or known theretofore; and in the sense that these new events add new potentials to God, to lure the universe and to enjoy contrasts, that did not exist theretofore, even for God.


Further Discussion

The Universe as a Process of Becoming

We are told that the universe as we know it is approximately 14 billion years old. It has been evolving ever since—into stars, galaxies, planets, moons, and, at least on our planet (and probably elsewhere), what we call life. "Life" has many definitions, but for now, let us assume that to be alive is to possess something like feeling or experience.

It is tempting to believe that, before a certain stage in cosmic evolution, there was no experience at all—no interiority, no emotion, no prehending, no attraction or repulsion, no feeling. According to this view, the early universe consisted solely of energy and force transfers, devoid of any subjective dimension. Consciousness and experience would have emerged only later, perhaps with the advent of biological complexity. Until that point, the universe would have been a realm of purely physical interactions, lacking any trace of interiority or feeling.

The Whiteheadian Alternative: Energy = Feeling

Alfred North Whitehead offers a radically different view. He proposes that what we call "energy" at the subatomic level is not distinct from experience but is itself a primitive form of feeling. Energy, in this view, is not merely an objective force exchanged between particles—it is a form of prehension. Wherever there is energy, there is some degree of feeling, however rudimentary. The interactions of subatomic particles are not devoid of experience but involve basic forms of attraction, repulsion, and responsiveness. Energy transfers, therefore, are not merely physical events but also moments of subjective experience—simple, unconscious feelings, or "prehensions."

This perspective suggests that the universe has always contained an element of subjectivity—an interior dimension present from its earliest moments. Prehension did not emerge with life; it has been present all along, shaping the evolution of the cosmos at every level. Energy and feeling, as Whitehead sees it, are inseparable aspects of the same process of becoming.

Quantum Events and Human Experience

If this panexperiential view is correct, it implies that quantum events—occurring deep within atoms just after the Big Bang—are of the same kind as moments of human experience. Both, in their way, are alive.

What connects a moment of human experience to a quantum event? Neither is conscious in the traditional sense. They do not involve perceiving objects with the clarity of human sight, nor do they engage in self-reflection. Quantum events, like most of our everyday experiences, lack conscious perception or reflective awareness. Even when we are awake, moments of clear perception are rare. Much of our experience consists of bodily sensations, emotions, desires, and preconscious memories.

To grasp the connection between quantum events and human experiences, we need to move beyond conventional ideas of consciousness. Neither requires self-awareness or the sense of being distinct from the world. Both unfold in response to what came before, shaped by prior influences. Whitehead describes this responsiveness as experience in the mode of causal efficacy.

Spontaneity and Self-Creativity

Yet, neither quantum events nor human experiences are fully determined by the past. There is always an element of spontaneity—what Whitehead calls self-creativity. In both cases, experience arises from the intersection of past influences and spontaneous aliveness. Unfulfilled possibilities from the future also shape the present, acting as attractors, much like probabilities in quantum theory, drawing events toward particular outcomes.

Prehension and Subjectivity

Whitehead introduces the concept of prehension to describe how events—whether human or quantum—incorporate past influences and future possibilities. Prehension is not a conscious process but a way of feeling both what has been and what could be. It integrates the past and potential futures into each unfolding moment.
Prehension involves more than just information transfer; it entails a felt connection. Both quantum events and human experiences respond to relevant past influences and potential futures. These potentials serve as lures or subjective aims, guiding events toward certain outcomes.

Every experience, whether human or quantum, contains what Whitehead calls subjective immediacy: an inner aliveness unique to the present moment. Both human experiences and quantum events are moments of experience—or actual occasions—each with its own subjective immediacy. There is an ontological continuity between them: both involve prehension, and both seek some form of satisfaction in the process of becoming.

The Aim Toward Intensity and the Role of Contrast

What do quantum events and human experiences seek? According to Whitehead, they seek intensity—or, more precisely, satisfying intensity. Both aim to achieve a kind of fulfillment unique to their moment. This pursuit introduces novelty into the world, contributing to the ongoing creative advance of the cosmos.

Contrast plays a key role in generating intensity. In human experience, contrasting emotions or perspectives deepen awareness and amplify meaning. Similarly, quantum events achieve intensity by integrating past influences with unrealized future possibilities. Without contrast, experience would lack the tension necessary to generate novelty and richness.

In human life, this felt preference for certain influences over others manifests as emotions. Even at the quantum level, Whitehead suggests that events have subjective forms—a rudimentary form of emotion or responsiveness. Emotions, contrasts, and prehensions are not exclusive to humans but are present throughout the cosmos. Subjective forms, the "clothing" of prehensions, embody the contrasts that give rise to intensity.

What About Rocks?

Some objects—like rocks—seem devoid of agency. It may seem odd to suggest that rocks are alive in any meaningful way. Whitehead acknowledges this intuition, explaining that rocks are not themselves prehending realities but aggregates of prehending events. These aggregates, or nexuses, are complex groupings of countless events where prehension occurs at the quantum level.

Whitehead distinguishes between mechanical and organic unities. Rocks, as aggregates, are mechanical wholes—the sum of their parts, lacking spontaneity and self-organization. In contrast, organic wholes have emergent unities, where the interaction of parts creates something more than their sum.

It’s also important to note that matter takes many forms—not just solid objects like rocks. Matter can exist as liquids, gases, plasmas, and other dynamic states. Some forms, like fluids, contain seeds of self-organizing creativity absent in solids. Whitehead’s view invites us to move beyond the idea of matter as static, recognizing that all matter participates in processes of becoming.

Value in the Universe

Our universe consists of experiential moments and the aggregates (nexuses or societies) they form. But what about value? Is value inherent in the universe?

For Whitehead, the answer is yes. Value resides in the act of experiencing itself—in the self-enjoyment that arises from each moment of becoming. Every momentary experience seeks satisfaction, and this pursuit of value is intrinsic to its being. The universe, in evolving, is also evolving in value—developing capacities for feeling, enjoyment, and satisfaction.

Importantly, value does not depend on consciousness. Experience has been present in the universe from the beginning, while consciousness emerged later. Value precedes consciousness and is woven into the fabric of existence.

God, Beauty, and Eternal Objects

At the heart of the universe is God—understood as the complex unity of the cosmos, a living whole with a life of its own. God is not separate from the unfolding process of becoming but actively participates in it, luring the universe toward heightened forms of value wherever possible. God offers possibilities that align with each moment’s circumstances, always seeking beauty in the form of harmonious intensity.

Integral to this process are eternal objects—timeless potentialities that exist within the mind of God. These eternal objects are not merely abstract possibilities; they represent forms of value, beauty, and meaning that are always available to the universe. However, they are only made relevant "in due season"—that is, they become available to particular events when conditions align, guiding the universe toward new possibilities. These eternal objects act as divine lures, drawing creation toward more profound expressions of harmony, novelty, and satisfaction.

Beauty

If we see one word to name the subjective aim of the the living whole of the universe, of God, it might be Beauty.

Beauty, in this sense, is more than aesthetic pleasure—it is the harmonious integration of contrasting elements into satisfying forms of intensity. Every moment of beauty achieved in the universe is retained within the ongoing life of God, who serves as an empathic receptacle for all that happens. God holds the joys and sorrows of every occasion, weaving them into a larger pattern of meaning and value.

Two forms of Beauty that are especially important in human life, and perhaps in other forms as well, are Truth and Goodness. Truth is not an object to be attained, It is a name for the act of experiencing and responding to the world in a way that is responsive to the way the world truly is. Truth is the activity of seeking rapport, or correspondence, with how things stand, however they stand. Goodness is a name for seeking to foster the well-being of life. One ultimate expression of Goodness, thus understood, is Love.

This dynamic relationship between God and the the living cosmos is not coercive but persuasive. God offers possibilities—lures toward beauty—but their realization depends on the cooperation of each moment and its circumstances. As the universe unfolds, beauty emerges wherever contrasting elements are synthesized into enriching forms of intensity, contributing to the greater whole.

God, as both the source of eternal potentialities and the receptive heart of all experience, embodies a dual role: offering the world new possibilities while receiving and preserving each moment of experience. In this way, the universe is both a creative adventure and a profound act of participation in divine beauty. Every experience, no matter how small or fleeting, contributes to the ongoing evolution of beauty and value within the life of God.


Whitehead's Metaphysics

Actual Entities

An actual entity is a moment of concrescence—a moment of experience in which the many entities of the past actual world are felt and gathered into the unity of a subjective whole. In each actual entity, "the many become one, and are increased by one." This gathering includes the self-creativity and self-enjoyment of the entity, as it unifies influences from the past and brings forth something new. Actual entities are multiple and thus different from one another. Each entity arises with its own distinct characteristics, shaped by its unique prehensions and subjective forms. Once completed, an actual entity perishes as a subjective experience but continues to exist objectively, contributing to future moments of experience. This process exemplifies the dynamic nature of reality—each actual entity participates in the ongoing creative advance of the universe by transforming the past into novelty.

Prehensions

Prehensions refer to the ways actual entities relate to and "take account of" one another. This concept captures how an entity feels or grasps another entity—not conceptually, but experientially. Prehensions are the building blocks of relationships, with each actual entity prehending others through positive (inclusive) or negative (exclusive) feelings. These prehensive relations allow all things to participate in one another’s becoming, embodying the interconnectedness of all entities.

Nexus (or Nexūs)

A nexus is a network of actual entities related through shared prehensions, forming structured webs of interconnected experiences. Some nexūs take on enduring forms called societies, where occasions of experience inherit common characteristics from one another, creating patterns of continuity.

Corpuscular societies: These consist of relatively stable entities, such as atoms or molecules, which persist across time by maintaining coherence.

Personally ordered societies: These are sequences of experiences that form personal identities, such as the stream of consciousness that constitutes a person’s life. Each occasion builds on its predecessors, creating personal continuity and coherence over time.

Nexūs and societies reveal how individual occasions of experience participate in larger patterns of becoming, connecting everything from microscopic particles to human lives in an ongoing process of transformation.

Subjective Forms

Subjective forms refer to the emotional or qualitative tone that shapes how an entity experiences the world. These forms influence how prehensions are integrated, giving each experience a unique emotional quality. For example, one person might feel rain as melancholic, while another experiences it as refreshing. Subjective forms guide how entities respond to and integrate the influences they prehend, adding emotional depth to experience.

Eternal Objects

Eternal objects are pure potentials—abstract qualities or possibilities that actual entities can take up in their becoming. They are not confined to any specific event but exist as timeless potentials. For example, the quality "redness" is an eternal object that can manifest across different instances and contexts. Eternal objects provide the abstract building blocks that influence the unique character of each experience.

Propositions

Propositions are lures for feeling—imaginative suggestions that invite actual entities to explore certain possibilities. They function as speculative invitations, guiding the creative process by proposing how things might be. A proposition is not merely a factual statement but a suggestion for novelty and change. For example, an artist may consider a proposition that offers a new way to combine colors. Propositions help entities integrate new potentials, influencing both artistic creation and practical problem-solving.

Multiplicities

Multiplicities are diverse entities that exist in disjunction from one another. They may consist of actualities (such as actual entities) or potentialities (such as eternal objects). As truly distinct, multiplicities are not yet unified into the togetherness of an actual occasion of experience. A particular moment of experience (or actual entity) gathers these disparate elements into unity, but outside such unification, the universe remains a multiplicity. In this sense, multiplicities represent the richness of possibilities that are yet to be integrated.

Contrasts

Contrasts refer to patterns of difference or opposition that are either harmonized or remain in tension within experiences. These contrasts give shape and complexity to reality by bringing together opposing elements. For example, a melody is enriched by contrasts between high and low notes, and a life story is enriched by the interplay of joy and sorrow. Contrasts are essential to the depth and texture of experience, embodying both harmony and tension within each moment.

Creativity

Creativity is the “ultimate of ultimates,” the underlying activity expressed in all actualities. It manifests as the self-creativity of each actual entity through concrescence—the integration of many influences into a unified moment of experience. This process also involves transition, where the subjective immediacy of an entity perishes but lives on as objectively immortal in the experiences of future entities. Creativity is the driving force behind the novelty in the universe, enabling the ongoing process of becoming through which the past transforms into something new.

God

God encompasses three aspects, offering a relational and evolving presence in the universe:

  • Primordial Nature:
  • This is God's conceptual aspect, holding all eternal objects as pure possibilities. It represents the timeless realm of potentiality, offering the raw materials from which new experiences emerge.
  • Consequent Nature:
  • This is God’s empathic reception of all that happens, integrating every experience into the divine life. God feels the world, weaving all joys and sufferings into a coherent whole, continuously expanding in response to the world's becoming. God’s consequent nature ensures that no moment of experience is ever lost, as every event contributes to the unfolding divine reality.
  • Superjective Nature:
  • This is God's influence on the world, luring creatures toward new possibilities. The superjective nature represents the way God inspires and persuades actual entities toward greater beauty, truth, and harmony, without coercion. God’s power lies not in domination but in invitation—offering new possibilities and guiding the world toward creative advance.

Friday, November 8, 2024

ChatGPT: Benchmark Comparisons re: Trump v Biden Administrations

 

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ChatGPT: Benchmark Comparisons re:
2016 Trump v 2020 Biden Administrations

To Be Used v Trump's Second Term (2024-2028)

Question
Please list in order of significance the pros and cons of trumps 2016-2020 term...

ChatGPT said:

Here is an overview of the pros and cons of Donald Trump's presidency (2016-2020), organized roughly by significance based on widely noted impacts. These are intended to be impartial observations and reflect areas highlighted by analysts, historians, and media coverage.

Pros

  1. Economic Growth (Pre-Pandemic)

    • Pro: The U.S. saw a strong economy pre-COVID-19, with GDP growth, record low unemployment rates (including for Black and Hispanic communities), and gains in the stock market. Tax cuts and deregulation were credited by supporters for spurring growth.
    • Con: Critics argue the growth disproportionately benefited the wealthy, increasing the federal deficit, and that economic gains were consistent with trends before his presidency.
  2. Judicial Appointments

    • Pro: Trump successfully appointed three Supreme Court justices and over 200 federal judges, significantly shifting the judiciary towards conservative leanings, impacting legal interpretations for decades.
    • Con: Some saw this as a polarizing move, potentially endangering certain established precedents (e.g., reproductive rights) and argued it favored ideology over balance.
  3. Criminal Justice Reform

    • Pro: The First Step Act, a bipartisan criminal justice reform law, aimed to reduce recidivism and lower certain prison sentences.
    • Con: Critics note systemic issues remain largely unaddressed and some felt the administration’s overall tone on law and order contradicted broader criminal justice reform.
  4. Foreign Policy - Middle East

    • Pro: Trump brokered normalization deals between Israel and several Arab states (Abraham Accords), marking significant regional diplomacy.
    • Con: Detractors highlight that other moves, such as pulling out of the Iran nuclear deal, raised tensions, while broader Middle Eastern policy lacked consistency.
  5. Immigration Policies

    • Pro: Trump focused heavily on immigration control, arguing it protected American jobs and security, with policies like "Remain in Mexico" and an emphasis on border security.
    • Con: His policies faced significant criticism for perceived human rights abuses, such as family separations at the border, and were viewed as hostile and inhumane by many.
  6. Trade Policy and Tariffs

    • Pro: Trump took a strong stance against China with tariffs, aiming to address trade imbalances, intellectual property theft, and perceived unfair practices.
    • Con: The trade war hurt many American farmers and manufacturers due to retaliatory tariffs, increased costs for consumers, and skepticism about long-term efficacy.
  7. Regulatory Reductions

    • Pro: The administration cut numerous regulations, claiming to improve business efficiency and economic growth.
    • Con: Critics argue many environmental and safety protections were rolled back, endangering health and ecosystems in pursuit of short-term gains.
  8. Handling of COVID-19

    • Pro: The administration spearheaded Operation Warp Speed, accelerating the development and distribution of COVID-19 vaccines.
    • Con: Trump's pandemic response was widely criticized as disorganized and downplaying the severity of the virus, leading to inconsistent policies and public health outcomes.
  9. Tax Cuts and Jobs Act (2017)

    • Pro: Cut taxes for corporations and many individuals, argued to have increased investment and disposable income.
    • Con: Critics argue the tax cuts largely benefited corporations and wealthier Americans, exacerbating income inequality and increasing the national debt.
  10. America First Approach

  • Pro: Focused on nationalism and self-interest, seeking to reduce U.S. involvement in foreign conflicts and renegotiate trade deals (e.g., NAFTA replaced by USMCA).
  • Con: Critics assert this isolationist approach weakened alliances and damaged U.S. global standing, creating potential long-term diplomatic repercussions.

This list covers a mix of policy initiatives and notable themes. Interpretations often vary based on political and ideological perspectives, so these pros and cons reflect broader public and historical debates surrounding his presidency.

Question
how did President Biden's following four years between 2020-2024 help or harm trumpian policies?

ChatGPT said:

Here's a look at how President Joe Biden's presidency from 2020 to 2024 impacted the policies established during Donald Trump's term. Biden's actions and policies often sought to roll back or reform some of Trump's key initiatives while advancing new priorities. Here's an overview of how Biden's years either reinforced or counteracted "Trumpian" policies.

Areas Where Biden Countered Trumpian Policies:

  1. COVID-19 Response

    • Impact on Trumpian Policies: Biden prioritized a more centralized, science-driven COVID-19 response, emphasizing vaccine distribution, mask mandates in federal spaces, and outreach to states. This differed from Trump's often decentralized and sometimes skeptical approach.
    • Outcome: Biden's strategy aimed to accelerate vaccinations and reduce case counts, though challenges such as new variants persisted. Critics debated the effectiveness of mandates and public health measures, seeing them as either essential corrections or overreach.
  2. Climate Change and Environmental Policies

    • Impact on Trumpian Policies: Biden rejoined the Paris Climate Agreement on his first day in office and reversed many of Trump's environmental deregulations. He focused on renewable energy initiatives and emissions reductions.
    • Outcome: This shift underscored a commitment to combating climate change, contrasting sharply with Trump's emphasis on deregulation and fossil fuel promotion. However, it faced mixed reactions from different economic sectors, particularly energy-related businesses.
  3. Immigration Policies

    • Impact on Trumpian Policies: Biden rescinded several of Trump's restrictive immigration policies, including the "Remain in Mexico" program. He sought pathways for citizenship and addressed family separations.
    • Outcome: Biden's softer stance and policy changes were viewed as humane by supporters but criticized by some as contributing to increased border crossings and strained immigration facilities.
  4. Economic and Tax Policies

    • Impact on Trumpian Policies: Biden partially reversed Trump’s corporate tax cuts by proposing tax increases on high-income earners and corporations to fund new infrastructure and social programs.
    • Outcome: Supporters saw this as a way to invest in critical sectors and reduce income inequality, while opponents feared it would hurt economic growth. Biden’s approach marked a pivot from the trickle-down emphasis in Trump's economic policies.
  5. Foreign Policy and Alliances

    • Impact on Trumpian Policies: Biden sought to rebuild alliances strained during the Trump era, such as with NATO partners and European allies. He adopted a cooperative international approach while still maintaining some hardline stances (e.g., on China).
    • Outcome: The return to multilateralism was welcomed by many allies but received mixed reviews domestically, with critics of Biden arguing that he sometimes showed weakness on the global stage, particularly during the Afghanistan withdrawal.
  6. Trade Policies

    • Impact on Trumpian Policies: While Biden continued some tariffs on China, he approached trade with less of an "America First" rhetoric. Efforts were made to stabilize supply chains and boost domestic manufacturing, often reframing, not fully undoing, Trump’s trade focus.
    • Outcome: The nuanced approach sought to thread a middle ground, retaining some trade protections while fostering diplomacy. However, progress in reconfiguring global trade agreements faced mixed success.

Areas Where Biden Reinforced or Continued Trumpian Policies:

  1. China Policy

    • Reinforcement: Biden maintained many of Trump’s tough policies on China, including tariffs and competitive technology policies. His administration upheld a cautious stance, continuing to label China as a strategic rival.
    • Outcome: The continuity demonstrated bipartisan consensus on addressing China’s economic practices and global ambitions, though Biden often sought to rally allies for a more coordinated approach.
  2. Middle East Policies (Abraham Accords)

    • Reinforcement: The Biden administration maintained support for the Abraham Accords, which normalized relations between Israel and Arab nations, while also pursuing renewed diplomacy with Palestinians.
    • Outcome: Biden’s maintenance of these accords signaled their perceived value as a positive Trump legacy, even as his administration worked to broaden engagement in the region.
  3. Infrastructure Investment

    • Reinforcement and Expansion: Biden expanded on Trump’s infrastructure focus, passing a major bipartisan infrastructure law to repair and upgrade critical American infrastructure, including roads, bridges, and broadband.
    • Outcome: This reflected continuity in recognizing infrastructure as a key investment area, but Biden’s plan was broader and more detailed compared to Trump's proposals.

Mixed Outcomes and Criticisms

  1. Energy Policies

    • Biden’s policies led to renewed focus on clean energy but faced criticism amid high energy prices, partly exacerbated by the conflict in Ukraine. Critics claimed Biden’s approach undermined U.S. energy independence touted by Trump, while others praised it as forward-thinking.
  2. Regulatory and Labor Policies

    • Biden's support for unions and regulatory standards contrasted with Trump’s deregulatory agenda, leading to new protections but also concerns about increased costs and bureaucratic red tape for businesses.

Overall, Biden's term reflected a significant pivot from Trump's, emphasizing government intervention, multilateral diplomacy, and a progressive agenda on climate, health, and economic equality. Simultaneously, it retained aspects of Trump's policies on trade and geopolitics, reflecting a nuanced legacy-driven policy evolution.

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whose policies were more successful or more detracting between trump and biden?
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Determining the "success" or "detracting" nature of the policies of Presidents Donald Trump and Joe Biden is complex and highly dependent on one’s political perspective, as well as which metrics or areas are prioritized. Here is an overview of the areas where each leader's policies have been regarded as more or less effective, with context provided:

Economic Policies

  • Trump's Approach:
    Trump emphasized tax cuts, deregulation, and a business-friendly approach to stimulate economic growth. His 2017 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act provided tax relief, particularly for corporations, which he argued spurred investment and job creation. Pre-pandemic, economic indicators such as unemployment (including for minority groups) reached historic lows, and GDP growth was solid. However, critics point out that these gains benefited the wealthiest disproportionately and led to increased national debt.

    • Successes: Pre-pandemic economic growth, record low unemployment rates, and strong stock market performance.
    • Detractors: Increased income inequality, rising federal deficit, and critics suggesting gains were extensions of prior economic trends.
  • Biden's Approach:
    Biden prioritized investment in infrastructure, a shift towards green energy, and tax reforms aimed at wealthier individuals and corporations to reduce income inequality and fund new social initiatives. The American Rescue Plan and other stimulus measures were aimed at economic recovery from COVID-19’s fallout, but inflation became a growing issue during his term.

    • Successes: Passage of a historic infrastructure bill, reduced unemployment as the economy recovered post-pandemic, and boosts to social safety nets.
    • Detractors: Higher inflation, supply chain disruptions, and increased government spending leading to worries about national debt and potential economic overheating.

Verdict: Trump's pre-pandemic economic growth was considered by many as successful, but it disproportionately benefited the wealthy. Biden's recovery policies reduced unemployment post-pandemic but were criticized for inflation and spending.

Foreign Policy

  • Trump's Approach:
    Trump adopted an "America First" foreign policy, emphasizing unilateralism and transactional diplomacy. He brokered the Abraham Accords but also withdrew from international agreements like the Iran nuclear deal and the Paris Climate Agreement. His confrontational approach to NATO allies and trade wars, especially with China, were polarizing.

    • Successes: Abraham Accords, pressuring NATO allies to increase defense spending, and confronting China on trade issues.
    • Detractors: Weakened alliances, isolationism, and strained diplomatic relationships, often seen as eroding America's global standing.
  • Biden's Approach:
    Biden sought to rebuild alliances and engage multilaterally. He rejoined the Paris Agreement, mended ties with NATO allies, and emphasized diplomacy. However, the chaotic withdrawal from Afghanistan undermined his foreign policy credibility for many, even as it fulfilled a long-standing U.S. goal.

    • Successes: Rebuilding diplomatic ties, continuity in tough stances on China, and efforts to counter Russia’s aggression in Ukraine through alliances.
    • Detractors: Perceived weakness and lack of strategic coherence, notably during the Afghanistan withdrawal, and challenges in handling complex international crises.

Verdict: Trump’s foreign policy successes often reflected disruption, but critics highlight long-term costs. Biden’s return to multilateralism was praised but came with some strategic missteps.

COVID-19 Response

  • Trump's Approach:
    Trump’s COVID-19 response was criticized for inconsistent messaging, downplaying the virus early on, and focusing on states’ handling rather than federal coordination. However, Operation Warp Speed was a major success, helping to accelerate vaccine development.

    • Successes: Operation Warp Speed's rapid vaccine development.
    • Detractors: Perceived lack of a coordinated federal response, mixed messages, and early downplaying of the virus’ seriousness.
  • Biden's Approach:
    Biden prioritized a centralized federal response with mass vaccination campaigns, public health mandates, and federal guidance. His approach was viewed as more organized but faced backlash, particularly over mandates.

    • Successes: High vaccination rates and a more organized federal response.
    • Detractors: Vaccine hesitancy, controversy over mandates, and ongoing challenges with new variants.

Verdict: Trump's vaccine push was a major milestone, but Biden’s broader efforts to coordinate a national response were seen as more robust, despite facing societal resistance.

Domestic Policy and Social Issues

  • Trump's Approach:
    Trump focused on deregulation, judicial appointments (shifting courts to a conservative lean), and restrictive immigration policies. Critics argue these policies divided the nation on key social issues.

    • Successes: Judicial appointments and appeals to certain conservative values.
    • Detractors: Critics accused him of inflaming racial tensions and pursuing policies that marginalized vulnerable populations.
  • Biden's Approach:
    Biden emphasized racial equity, expanded social safety nets, and labor rights. He aimed to overturn some of Trump’s immigration policies and supported progressive policies.

    • Successes: Advancing social equity and progressive reforms, worker-focused policies.
    • Detractors: Seen by some as overly progressive, and perceived weaknesses in border control and immigration management.

Verdict: Trump’s domestic policies energized his base but were divisive, while Biden sought to unify on equity and social safety nets, though his progressive push encountered political backlash.

Conclusion

  • Success Assessment: Trump’s successes were often viewed through a lens of economic growth, conservative judicial influence, and disrupting norms to bring attention to neglected issues, but at the cost of increased political polarization. Biden sought to correct what many saw as Trump’s divisive actions by emphasizing diplomacy, multilateralism, and domestic equity, but encountered challenges like inflation and societal divides.
  • Detractions: Trump's isolationist and divisive rhetoric weakened alliances and caused domestic rifts, while Biden's ambitious agenda sometimes ran into political gridlock and economic headwinds, particularly on inflation.

Overall, the assessment often comes down to one's perspective on their approaches and priorities, with both having areas of notable impact and significant detractors.

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To what degree was Constitutional governance observed between trump and biden?

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Assessing the adherence to Constitutional governance by Presidents Donald Trump and Joe Biden between their terms (2016-2020 for Trump and 2020-2024 for Biden) is a complex task, as it involves examining their interpretation, enforcement, and perceived compliance with Constitutional principles, norms, and the separation of powers. Here's an overview of how their presidencies reflected adherence or challenges to Constitutional governance:

Donald Trump (2016-2020)

Areas of Adherence:

  1. Judicial Appointments:
    • Trump adhered strictly to Constitutional processes in appointing over 200 federal judges and three Supreme Court Justices. These appointments had a lasting impact on the judiciary's ideological balance, reflecting his commitment to utilizing his Constitutional powers.
  2. Executive Orders and Vetoes:
    • Trump frequently issued executive orders, consistent with his powers as president, to advance his policies. While not unprecedented, the use of executive action was well within the legal bounds, even if at times controversial.

Areas of Challenge or Criticism:

  1. Impeachment Proceedings:
    • Trump was impeached twice by the House of Representatives. The first impeachment related to his attempts to pressure Ukraine to investigate a political rival, raising concerns about abuse of power and potential violations of Constitutional norms. The second impeachment followed the January 6th Capitol riot, with charges of incitement of insurrection.
    • Both times, he was acquitted by the Senate, highlighting the political and legal complexities of the impeachment process.
  2. Separation of Powers and Rule of Law:
    • Critics argue that Trump's interactions with the Department of Justice (DOJ), perceived attempts to influence investigations, and pressure on officials during the 2020 election to "find votes" raised questions about Constitutional limits and the independence of government institutions.
  3. Use of Emergency Powers:
    • Declaring a national emergency to secure funding for a border wall, bypassing Congress's control over the budget, was controversial and legally contested, reflecting a tension with Constitutional checks and balances.

Summary:

  • Adherence Level: Trump’s administration generally followed Constitutional procedures when advancing major initiatives (e.g., judicial appointments), but he frequently challenged established norms, tested the boundaries of executive power, and sometimes provoked bipartisan concern over potential overreach and adherence to the rule of law.

Joe Biden (2020-2024)

Areas of Adherence:

  1. Return to Norms:
    • Biden emphasized a “return to normalcy” and adherence to Constitutional norms, signaling respect for institutional independence (e.g., DOJ independence) and commitment to cooperative governance.
  2. Legislative Agenda:
    • Biden pursued much of his policy agenda through legislative means, including bipartisan efforts like the infrastructure bill, reflecting adherence to the Constitutional balance of power.
  3. Judicial Challenges and Respect for Rulings:
    • Biden's administration generally respected court rulings and legal procedures, even when faced with judicial setbacks to his executive orders, such as immigration policies.

Areas of Challenge or Criticism:

  1. Executive Orders:
    • Like Trump, Biden relied heavily on executive orders, reversing many of Trump’s policies quickly through executive action. While lawful, this practice was seen by some as skirting legislative processes and continuing a trend toward "executive overreach."
  2. Vaccine Mandates:
    • Federal vaccine mandates imposed by Biden faced numerous legal challenges. Opponents argued that mandates for businesses and federal employees represented federal overreach, testing the limits of executive authority under the Constitution.
  3. Border and Immigration Policies:
    • Biden's approach to immigration, particularly lifting some Trump-era restrictions, raised issues about Constitutional powers and enforcement responsibilities. Critics argued that his border policies tested the limits of executive discretion, with states pushing back legally.

Summary:

  • Adherence Level: Biden’s approach reflected a deliberate emphasis on institutional norms and rule-based governance. However, like his predecessors, he faced accusations of over-reliance on executive orders, raising questions about the balance of executive and legislative power.

Comparative Analysis of Constitutional Governance:

  • Separation of Powers: Trump’s frequent confrontations with the judicial branch, use of emergency powers, and challenges to Congressional authority were notable, as was his effort to expand executive influence. Biden sought to operate within more traditional norms but faced criticism for using executive action when legislative efforts stalled.
  • Rule of Law and Norms: Trump's unorthodox style often challenged norms around the rule of law, with some instances seen as bending or straining Constitutional principles (e.g., post-election challenges). Biden, conversely, aimed to reassert norms but drew criticism when using his powers for broad mandates or contested regulations.
  • Respect for Judicial Independence: Trump faced frequent accusations of attempting to politicize or pressure judicial and investigatory bodies, while Biden largely respected judicial independence, though some of his policies also faced significant legal scrutiny.

Conclusion

Both presidencies tested the boundaries of Constitutional governance but in different ways. Trump’s term was marked by norm-challenging rhetoric and actions that sparked constitutional debate, often invoking robust Congressional pushback. Biden, while seeking a return to Constitutional norms, also faced allegations of overreach, especially through executive mandates. The degree of adherence or divergence from Constitutional principles depends on one's perspective on the scope and nature of presidential powers.

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Generally, which administration was the more successful in the broadest meaning of the phrase?

ChatGPT said:

Determining which administration—Donald Trump's (2016-2020) or Joe Biden's (2020-2024)—was more "successful" in the broadest sense involves assessing a range of policy outcomes, leadership approaches, and societal impacts. This broad measure of success is influenced by economic performance, social cohesion, international relations, crisis management, and adherence to democratic norms and governance.

1. Economic Success

  • Trump's Administration:
    Trump's presidency saw robust economic growth prior to the COVID-19 pandemic. Key indicators included low unemployment, especially among minority groups, deregulation efforts, and tax reforms that spurred corporate investment. However, critics argue that these policies disproportionately benefited the wealthy and increased the national deficit. The economic impact of the pandemic was a major challenge, with economic downturns and job losses.
  • Biden's Administration:
    Biden inherited a pandemic-battered economy and prioritized recovery through substantial government spending, including stimulus payments, infrastructure investments, and expanded social safety nets. While the economy rebounded, high inflation and supply chain disruptions posed significant challenges. Supporters highlight decreased unemployment and infrastructure gains; critics point to economic difficulties like rising costs of living.

Overall Assessment:
Trump's pre-pandemic economic success showed strong growth metrics, but Biden's efforts to recover and stabilize the economy in a crisis were notable despite inflation concerns.

2. Domestic Policy and Social Cohesion

  • Trump's Administration:
    Trump's approach often energized his base with populist rhetoric, but it was deeply polarizing, frequently criticized for inflaming cultural and racial tensions. His policies on immigration, law and order, and social issues were divisive, although his judicial appointments reshaped the federal judiciary for years to come. The January 6th Capitol riot underscored sharp political divides and raised concerns about democracy's fragility.
  • Biden's Administration:
    Biden aimed to be a unifying force, emphasizing racial and social equity and bipartisan initiatives like the infrastructure bill. While his rhetoric focused on national healing, his progressive agenda also faced pushback, further polarizing segments of society. Cultural and social divisions persisted, with criticism from conservatives over perceived leftward overreach.

Overall Assessment:
Trump was a transformative but divisive figure domestically, while Biden sought unity with varying degrees of success. Both administrations reflected a nation grappling with significant social and ideological polarization.

3. Foreign Policy and Global Influence

  • Trump's Administration:
    Trump emphasized "America First" policies, focusing on nationalism, challenging NATO, and imposing tariffs on trade rivals like China. He brokered peace deals such as the Abraham Accords but was criticized for weakening alliances and withdrawing from international agreements, such as the Paris Climate Agreement and the Iran nuclear deal. His approach disrupted traditional diplomatic norms and was viewed by many allies as unpredictable.
  • Biden's Administration:
    Biden sought to restore alliances, re-entered multilateral agreements (e.g., Paris Climate Agreement), and emphasized diplomacy. His handling of Russia's invasion of Ukraine, working with NATO allies to impose sanctions on Russia, showcased multilateral efforts. However, the chaotic withdrawal from Afghanistan was a low point, raising questions about competence and strategic clarity.

Overall Assessment:
Trump's foreign policy saw bold, unconventional moves that drew mixed reactions. Biden emphasized restoring traditional diplomacy but faced challenges in implementing consistent, coherent strategies.

4. Crisis Management (COVID-19)

  • Trump's Administration:
    Trump's response to COVID-19 was widely criticized for inconsistent messaging and downplaying the severity of the virus. However, Operation Warp Speed, which accelerated vaccine development, was a significant success.
  • Biden's Administration:
    Biden focused on a centralized, science-based approach to combat COVID-19, with mass vaccination campaigns and federal mandates. His administration saw significant vaccination rollout but faced backlash over mandates and persistent challenges with new variants.

Overall Assessment:
Trump's vaccine push was a milestone, but his pandemic messaging was divisive. Biden's comprehensive approach improved public health coordination but encountered significant political and social pushback.

5. Adherence to Democratic Norms and Governance

  • Trump's Administration:
    Trump's term was marked by frequent challenges to democratic norms, including perceived attacks on the free press, confrontations with the judiciary, and his refusal to accept the 2020 election results, culminating in the Capitol riot. Supporters viewed his actions as anti-establishment; critics saw them as a threat to democracy.
  • Biden's Administration:
    Biden emphasized a return to norms, respect for institutions, and traditional governance. However, his reliance on executive orders for policy implementation drew criticism as a continuation of expanding executive authority.

Overall Assessment:
Trump’s approach to governance disrupted norms and triggered democratic concerns, while Biden sought to rebuild respect for institutions, though he faced challenges in navigating a divided political landscape.

Conclusion: Broadest Measure of Success

  • Trump's Strengths and Weaknesses: Trump's impact was significant in reshaping the judiciary, energizing a populist movement, and showing economic growth pre-pandemic. However, his divisiveness, challenges to democratic norms, and pandemic response were major drawbacks.
  • Biden's Strengths and Weaknesses: Biden emphasized recovery, unity, multilateralism, and progressive domestic reforms. However, inflation, social polarization, and crisis missteps tempered his successes.

In broad terms, Trump was transformative and polarizing, while Biden aimed for stabilization and repair, with mixed outcomes. "Success" depends heavily on personal values, economic priorities, and political perspectives. For supporters, Trump may represent bold change; for others, Biden's steady approach amid crises may resonate as more successful.

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done. thx. please file under Trump v Biden Administrations

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