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The Difference between
Non-Process and Process-based
Source Criticism and Interpretation
Part 1 of 2
by RE Slater & ChtGPT 4.0
September 28, 2024
..."Not that historians shall have to stop using ancient sources for historical reconstruction, but need to be aware of the problems involved when doing so...." - Anon
RES
Hi. New topic.
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Of course! What would you like to discuss?
RES
A question of how to read the bible as a normative collection of oral histories passed down over time as any other ancient set of collections have been.
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Reading the Bible as a normative collection of oral histories, akin to other ancient texts, requires understanding its evolution, context, and transmission. This approach, sometimes called historical-critical or literary-historical, treats the Bible not as a divinely dictated monolith but as a set of layered traditions shaped by the cultural, political, and religious conditions of its time. Here’s how one might approach it:
1. Understanding Oral Histories and Transmission: Oral Tradition as Foundation: Like other ancient texts (e.g., the Epic of Gilgamesh or Homeric epics), the Bible’s earliest narratives likely originated as oral stories passed through generations. Each retelling could incorporate regional influences, variations in emphasis, or new theological interpretations.
Collective Memory: In societies where literacy was low, oral tradition acted as a vessel for collective memory. It encoded historical events, legal principles, and cultural values. The Biblical text, in this context, can be seen as capturing how communities remembered and made sense of their past.
2. Textual Compilation and Redaction:Multiple Authors and Editors: Scholars recognize the presence of multiple voices and sources in the Biblical text (e.g., the J, E, P, and D sources in the Torah). Over time, these sources were woven together, sometimes harmoniously and other times with noticeable tensions and contradictions.
Editorial Intentions: Later editors (redactors) shaped the material to fit the needs of their communities. This process might reflect responses to crises (e.g., the Babylonian Exile), changes in leadership, or efforts to centralize worship practices. For instance, the shift from polytheistic elements in the earliest stories to a strict monotheism shows theological evolution.
3. Historical Context and Comparisons: Comparative Literature: The Bible shares similarities with other ancient Near Eastern literature, such as the Code of Hammurabi, Ugaritic myths, or Egyptian wisdom texts. These parallels provide insight into shared cultural and theological frameworks. For instance, the flood narrative in Genesis mirrors elements of the Epic of Gilgamesh.
Cultural Norms and Legal Traditions: Biblical laws, genealogies, and histories reflect the social structures and norms of their times. Reading the Bible alongside other ancient legal codes (e.g., Hittite or Assyrian laws) reveals shared concerns about property, purity, and communal boundaries.
4. Shifts in Religious and Political Power: Theological Shifts: Key theological developments—such as the emphasis on covenant theology, the move from tribal to centralized monarchy, and prophetic critiques of kingship—correspond to Israel’s political transformations.
Power and Authority: The Bible can be read as a response to shifts in power, where different factions (e.g., priests, prophets, kings) sought to assert their authority. Each book or section may thus reflect the interests of these groups.
5. Modern Hermeneutics and Interpretative Strategies: Reading for Layers of Meaning: One way to approach the Bible is to recognize the different layers of meaning—literal, allegorical, moral, and anagogical—each reflecting different aspects of human experience.
Community Identity and Normativity: When the Bible is read normatively, it is not just about what happened but what the community ought to do. This explains why certain texts were included or excluded from the canon, emphasizing those narratives that established normative practices.
6. Viewing the Bible as Dynamic Literature:
Living Text Approach: Ancient communities did not see the Bible as static but as a living document, open to interpretation and re-interpretation. Early Jewish commentaries (e.g., the Talmud) and Christian patristic writings show how the text was engaged in dialogue with changing circumstances.
Canon Formation: The eventual canonization of the Bible reflects a process where oral and written traditions were evaluated, debated, and fixed in response to internal (theological) and external (political) pressures.
7. Application of Comparative Techniques:
Textual Criticism: By analyzing variants in manuscripts (e.g., Dead Sea Scrolls, Septuagint), scholars can trace the history of how specific passages were altered or expanded.
Form and Source Criticism: Identifying distinct genres (e.g., saga, genealogy, legal code, psalm) and sources helps reconstruct the Bible’s composition and editorial history.
Take Genesis 1-11 as an example.
This section, sometimes called the Primeval History, is an amalgam of etiological myths and cosmological reflections. Reading it as an oral history means focusing on how these stories convey foundational values and identity markers (e.g., human nature, the role of God in creation) rather than literal events.
Shared Themes with Ancient Myths: Compare these narratives to other creation myths (Babylonian Enuma Elish) to see how Genesis reinterprets shared motifs (e.g., chaotic waters, divine word) in a distinct theological framework.
Societal Functions: These stories likely served to explain the origins of phenomena (e.g., languages in the Tower of Babel), justify social arrangements (e.g., patriarchal authority), or establish taboos and moral lessons (e.g., the consequences of transgression in the Fall narrative).
Conclusion
Reading the Bible as a normative collection of oral histories situates it within the broader tapestry of ancient literature while respecting its unique religious and cultural contributions. It allows for a layered understanding where the text is both a historical artifact and a living tradition, shaped by and shaping the communities that preserved it.
RES
Please update the JEPD reactionary method with today's more current standards....
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Certainly! The classic JEPD (or Documentary Hypothesis) model has been significantly revised and critiqued in modern biblical scholarship. While still influential, new methodologies and theories have emerged to better account for the complex literary and historical composition of the Pentateuch (the first five books of the Bible) and other biblical texts. Let’s explore the contemporary framework for reading and analyzing the Bible in light of these developments:
1. Revising the Documentary Hypothesis:
The JEPD theory, which posits four main sources for the Pentateuch—Yahwist (J), Elohist (E), Deuteronomist (D), and Priestly (P)—has been revised to address issues that arose from its initial formulation in the 19th century. While J, E, D, and P are still used as shorthand for certain traditions or styles, modern scholarship focuses more on how these strands reflect broader socio-historical contexts and editorial processes.
Key Revisions:Fragmentary and Supplementary Hypotheses: Instead of discrete documents, many scholars now see the Pentateuch as a product of multiple smaller traditions or fragments that were combined over time. This approach allows for more nuanced understanding of overlaps and tensions within the text.De-emphasizing Source Boundaries:While the earlier model divided texts rigidly (e.g., Genesis 1 as P, Genesis 2 as J), contemporary scholarship recognizes that these divisions are less clear-cut. The focus is now on redactional layers, where later editors integrated or juxtaposed older traditions to create new meanings.Priestly and Post-Exilic Focus:A more dominant focus is placed on the Priestly (P) source and its role in shaping the Torah during and after the Babylonian Exile (6th century BCE). Scholars like Israel Knohl and Jacob Milgrom suggest that P is not just a legal corpus but a sophisticated theological response to the Exile’s crisis.
2. Modern Approaches to Pentateuchal Composition:
Several newer models provide alternative ways to understand the Pentateuch's formation and composition:
Neo-Documentary Hypothesis:A refined version of the Documentary Hypothesis, which maintains the existence of J and P but treats E as less distinct. J and P are seen as major redactional strands rather than independent documents, with J being a southern Judean narrative and P a more systematic and ritual-focused text.Non-Source Models:Some scholars (e.g., John Van Seters) argue for a model where much of the Pentateuch was composed in the Persian period, rather than being an amalgam of much earlier sources. In this view, many of the older stories were revised or created to reflect post-Exilic concerns.Kaufmann’s Holistic Approach:Yehezkel Kaufmann proposed that the entire Pentateuch was composed in a relatively late period (post-exilic), rejecting the classic divisions of J, E, and D. His approach treats the Torah as a unified ideological project, responding to and critiquing the surrounding ancient Near Eastern religious traditions.Composition by Tradition Schools:Drawing from the work of Scandinavian scholars like Martin Noth, this approach emphasizes the existence of distinct traditions (e.g., ancestral stories, Exodus narratives) that were preserved separately and only later woven together. Rather than fixed documents, these traditions were oral and written repositories of communal memory and identity.
3. Contemporary Focus on Redactional Layers and Scribal Activity:
Contemporary scholarship places a stronger emphasis on the role of scribes and redactors in shaping the biblical text. This view considers the formation of the Bible as a dynamic process where texts were continually adapted to meet changing theological, political, and social needs.
Textual Fluidity: Rather than treating the biblical texts as fixed early on, scholars like Emanuel Tov have shown how textual variants (e.g., in the Dead Sea Scrolls and Septuagint) reveal ongoing scribal activity well into the Second Temple period.
Editorial Strategies: Attention is given to the literary strategies employed by editors, such as the juxtaposition of contradictory traditions to create theological discourse (e.g., the different creation accounts in Genesis 1-2).
4. Literary and Canonical Approaches:
Modern scholars often incorporate literary analysis and canonical criticism, treating the final form of the biblical text as intentional and meaningful in its own right.
Literary Cohesion: Robert Alter and other literary critics focus on narrative techniques, such as repetition, symmetry, and intertextuality, to uncover deeper meanings within the text. They argue that apparent contradictions or duplications often serve literary or theological purposes.
Canonical Criticism: Proposed by Brevard Childs, this approach looks at how the shape of the final canon influences the interpretation of individual texts. It suggests that understanding the Bible’s theological message requires seeing it as a unified, though complex, composition.
5. Socio-Historical and Anthropological Models:
These approaches place the biblical texts within their broader socio-political and anthropological contexts:
Postcolonial and Anthropological Perspectives: Scholars like David Carr and Thomas Römer examine how the biblical narratives reflect the social and political realities of ancient Israel and Judah, including colonial pressures and identity formation.
Sociological Models: Biblical laws, rituals, and genealogies are analyzed in light of ancient social structures, kinship systems, and political changes. This approach helps explain the evolution of different legal traditions (e.g., Deuteronomic, Priestly) as responses to shifting community dynamics.
6. Theological and Ideological Studies:
Instead of focusing solely on sources, these approaches examine how different theological ideologies and worldviews were incorporated into the biblical text.
Multiple Theologies: Marc Brettler, for instance, argues for recognizing the existence of different theologies within the Pentateuch that reflect diverse understandings of God, law, and the covenant.
Political Theology: The role of the biblical texts in establishing or challenging political structures (e.g., kingship, priesthood) is a key focus. Biblical texts are seen as engaging in ideological debate rather than presenting a single unified viewpoint.
Summary of the Updated Model:
Modern biblical scholarship moves beyond the rigid JEPD model by focusing on:Textual Fluidity and Scribal Processes: Viewing the Bible as a dynamic and evolving text, shaped by redactors and scribes over centuries.
Tradition History: Understanding the text as a compilation of various traditions that were layered and reinterpreted over time.Redaction Criticism: Highlighting how editors shaped and reshaped the text to respond to new theological, social, and political circumstances.Literary and Canonical Unity: Treating the final form of the text as a coherent whole with literary and theological integrity.Sociological and Anthropological Contexts: Placing the text within its broader cultural and historical contexts to understand its development.
This updated approach offers a more complex and nuanced view of the Pentateuch’s composition, respecting its multi-layered nature while also seeking to understand the theological and social agendas that shaped it.
RES
Please examine the same re New Testament studies...
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The study of the New Testament has undergone significant evolution, especially in the past few decades. While traditional approaches focused on the documentary composition of the Gospels and Pauline letters, contemporary scholarship has embraced more diverse methodologies that account for social, literary, historical, and theological factors. Below is an overview of the main trends and updated models in New Testament studies:
1. Development Beyond Traditional Source Criticism:
Traditional New Testament criticism often centered around Source Criticism and theories such as the Two-Source Hypothesis. While still relevant, these frameworks have been challenged and expanded by newer methods that offer a more complex understanding of the New Testament’s formation.
The Two-Source Hypothesis:Markan Priority and Q Source: The traditional view, which posits that Matthew and Luke used Mark and an additional hypothetical source called Q (from the German Quelle, meaning "source"), remains widely accepted. However, questions about the nature and existence of Q have led to competing models like the Farrer Hypothesis, which argues that Luke used both Mark and Matthew, eliminating the need for a Q document.Mark without Q Theories:The Farrer-Goulder Theory (Mark → Matthew → Luke) and the Griesbach Hypothesis (Matthew → Luke → Mark) question the priority of Q and suggest alternative source relationships.Expanding Beyond Source Criticism:Minor Agreements and Overlapping Traditions: Scholars have identified numerous minor agreements between Matthew and Luke against Mark, which raise questions about the sufficiency of a purely documentary hypothesis. This has led to the recognition of oral traditions and shared early Christian memory playing a more significant role.Memory Studies:Recent approaches (e.g., the work of Richard Bauckham) explore how the Gospels reflect communal memory rather than strictly literary dependence. This theory suggests the Gospels are shaped by the early Christian community’s recollections and interpretations of Jesus’ life and teachings.
2. Social-Scientific and Historical Contextualization:
New Testament scholarship has increasingly utilized sociological and anthropological models to understand early Christianity as a movement within the broader Greco-Roman world.
Sociological Approaches:
Sectarian Models: Following the work of E.P. Sanders and others, some scholars view early Christianity as a sect within Judaism, later transforming into a separate movement. This approach focuses on how early Christians defined themselves against other Jewish groups and the Roman Empire.Social Identity Theory: This model examines how early Christian groups formed distinct identities through shared beliefs, rituals, and opposition to outside groups.
Greco-Roman Context:
Imperial Criticism and Power Dynamics: Scholars such as Warren Carter and Richard Horsley analyze how the New Testament reflects, critiques, or accommodates the power dynamics of the Roman Empire. The concept of “Christ as Lord” is explored as a challenge to Caesar’s lordship.Hellenistic Influence: Understanding the influence of Hellenistic philosophy, ethics, and religious practices on the New Testament writings (especially in Johannine literature and Pauline epistles) has become crucial. For instance, Paul’s letters are often read against the backdrop of Stoicism, Cynicism, and Jewish wisdom traditions.
3. Literary and Narrative Criticism:
Contemporary New Testament studies have embraced literary criticism to explore the narrative structure, themes, and rhetorical strategies of the texts. This approach treats the New Testament writings as sophisticated literary works that employ diverse genres and literary devices.
Narrative and Character Analysis: Analyzing how characters (e.g., Jesus, Peter, Paul) are developed within the narrative, and how the story structure shapes theological meaning.
Intertextuality and Echoes of Scripture: Scholars such as Richard Hays emphasize how New Testament writers allude to and reinterpret Hebrew Scriptures (Old Testament). The concept of intertextuality reveals how early Christian writers constructed Jesus’ identity through allusions to figures like Moses, David, or the Suffering Servant.The Role of Genre: Identifying the genres of different New Testament texts (e.g., Gospels as Greco-Roman bios or biography, Revelation as apocalyptic literature) influences how they are interpreted within their literary and cultural contexts.
4. Redaction and Composition History:
Redaction Criticism has gained prominence as a way to understand the editorial practices of New Testament authors. This method examines how each Gospel writer (e.g., Matthew, Luke) edited and reinterpreted sources to address the theological and pastoral needs of their communities.
Matthean and Lukan Redaction: Comparing how Matthew and Luke rework Mark’s material sheds light on their unique theological emphases (e.g., Matthew’s focus on Jewish law, Luke’s interest in marginalized groups and the universal mission).Johannine Community Hypothesis: The Gospel of John is often analyzed in terms of the “Johannine Community,” a hypothesized group that faced conflict with mainstream Judaism and possibly other Christian groups. This helps explain the distinct theological themes (e.g., high Christology, emphasis on love and unity) found in John.
5. The Quest for the Historical Jesus and the Rise of Memory Studies:
The Quest for the Historical Jesus has gone through multiple phases, from the early rationalist critiques to the more recent “Third Quest” and “Jesus Seminar” approaches. Recent studies, however, focus less on reconstructing an objective historical Jesus and more on understanding how Jesus was remembered and interpreted by his followers.
Historical Jesus Methodologies: Criteria of Authenticity (e.g., multiple attestation, embarrassment) have traditionally been used to sift through the Gospels to identify historically plausible sayings or events.Social Memory Theory: This approach suggests that the Gospels reflect the collective memory of Jesus shaped by his followers. Rather than reconstructing “what really happened,” scholars like Chris Keith and Anthony Le Donne analyze how these memories served to shape group identity and theology.
6. Pauline Studies and the “New Perspective on Paul”
Pauline studies have undergone a dramatic shift due to the “New Perspective on Paul,” pioneered by scholars like E.P. Sanders, James D.G. Dunn, and N.T. Wright.
Rethinking Justification and Law: The New Perspective challenges the traditional Lutheran interpretation that Paul’s main concern was with “works-righteousness.” Instead, Paul is seen as addressing Jewish-Gentile relations and redefining the boundaries of God’s people.Paul within Judaism: More recent approaches, such as those by Mark Nanos, argue that Paul should be seen as a Torah-observant Jew addressing Gentile inclusion without requiring their conversion to Judaism.
7. Postcolonial, Feminist, and Queer Readings:
New Testament studies have increasingly embraced postcolonial, feminist, and queer hermeneutics to critique traditional interpretations and offer new readings that consider power, gender, and sexuality.
Postcolonial Critique: This approach examines how the New Testament engages with themes of empire, marginality, and resistance. It highlights how early Christian writings both reflect and resist imperial ideologies.Feminist and Gender Studies: Feminist scholars analyze how women are portrayed in the New Testament (e.g., Mary Magdalene, the women at the tomb) and how these texts have been used to support or challenge patriarchal norms.Queer Hermeneutics: This methodology seeks to uncover non-normative or transgressive elements in the New Testament texts, exploring themes of identity, embodiment, and desire.
8. Canonical Criticism and Reception History:
Modern scholarship also emphasizes Canonical Criticism and Reception History, exploring how New Testament texts have been interpreted throughout history and within different religious traditions.
Canonical Criticism: Examines the theological meaning of the New Testament as a whole, rather than focusing on individual texts. It seeks to understand how the canonical form of the New Testament shapes its interpretation.Reception History (Wirkungsgeschichte): Investigates how New Testament texts have been received, interpreted, and applied in various historical contexts, from early church fathers to contemporary theologians.
Summary of Contemporary New Testament Studies:
Modern New Testament scholarship moves beyond traditional documentary and historical-critical approaches by incorporating diverse methodologies that consider the text’s socio-historical context, literary structure, and theological development:
From Source Criticism to Social and Memory Studies: Emphasizing oral tradition, communal memory, and the socio-political context of early Christianity.Literary and Redactional Analysis: Focusing on narrative and theological coherence rather than merely reconstructing sources.Sociological and Historical Contextualization: Understanding early Christianity within the Jewish and Greco-Roman worlds.Reception and Impact: Considering how New Testament texts have been read, interpreted, and reinterpreted across different communities and eras.
This holistic approach allows for a more integrated understanding of the New Testament, respecting its complexity and its role in shaping early Christian identity and theology.
RES
Explain how biblical liberalism, inerrancy, and infallibility is unhelpful to the reading of the Bible even though it comforts the masses to read the Bible so plainly.`
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The concepts of biblical liberalism, inerrancy, and infallibility represent different perspectives on how one should understand and interpret the Bible. While they may offer comfort and a sense of certainty to many readers, these frameworks can also hinder a nuanced reading of the text and prevent engagement with its deeper meanings, complexities, and historical development. Here’s an analysis of how these views can be unhelpful for serious biblical interpretation:
1. Biblical Liberalism:
Biblical liberalism typically refers to a modernist approach that treats the Bible as a human document reflecting the evolving religious consciousness of the people who wrote it. While it often critiques the traditional dogmas of biblical inerrancy or infallibility, it can still limit a more critical engagement by focusing on rational explanations or ethical readings while avoiding theological and narrative richness.
Limitations of Biblical Liberalism:
Reduction to Moralism: Biblical liberalism tends to reduce the Bible to a source of ethical guidance, often dismissing its supernatural elements as outdated or symbolic. This reductionism can overlook the complexity of biblical narratives that wrestle with suffering, divine justice, and the human condition.Historical Decontextualization: By emphasizing a modernist interpretation, liberalism can project contemporary values onto ancient texts, distorting the original cultural and historical context of the Bible. For instance, treating the Exodus as purely a liberation story may ignore its more complex theological themes of covenant, identity, and divine sovereignty.Loss of Sacred Meaning: While liberalism can demystify the Bible and make it more relatable, it risks losing the sense of mystery, transcendence, and sacred authority that many readers find compelling.
Why It’s Unhelpful: Biblical liberalism’s tendency to demythologize and rationalize the text may make it appear more accessible but can strip it of the theological depth, emotional power, and cultural meaning embedded in its narratives and theological reflections.
2. Biblical Inerrancy:
Biblical inerrancy holds that the Bible, in its original manuscripts, is completely free from error in all its teachings, whether theological, moral, or even historical and scientific. This perspective emerged in response to the Enlightenment’s emphasis on reason and the challenges of modern science, aiming to safeguard the Bible’s authority.
Limitations of Inerrancy:
Literalism and Over-Simplification: Inerrancy often promotes a hyper-literal reading of the text, ignoring genres like poetry, metaphor, or apocalyptic literature. This approach can lead to contradictions (e.g., differing accounts of Jesus’ resurrection) or strained harmonizations that disregard the text’s literary and theological diversity.Dismissal of Historical and Cultural Context: By asserting that every statement in the Bible is factually accurate, inerrancy can prevent readers from engaging with the cultural and historical contexts in which these texts were written. For instance, treating Genesis 1-3 as a scientific account of creation dismisses its function as an ancient Near Eastern mythological response to other creation narratives.Neglect of Internal Diversity: The Bible is a collection of books written over centuries by multiple authors with varying perspectives and contexts. Inerrancy’s insistence on uniform truth can obscure internal theological debates (e.g., the differing portrayals of kingship in Samuel vs. Chronicles).Why It’s Unhelpful: Inerrancy creates an intellectual straitjacket that forces readers to defend every passage as factually accurate rather than engaging with the text’s rich, multi-faceted meanings. It can also create crises of faith when historical or scientific evidence appears to contradict biblical claims.
3. Biblical Infallibility:
Biblical infallibility is a slightly more flexible concept than inerrancy. It asserts that the Bible is true and reliable in its theological and moral teachings but may not be accurate in historical or scientific details. While this view allows for some interpretative flexibility, it still maintains a rigid boundary around what the Bible is “meant” to teach.
Limitations of Infallibility:
Theological Reductionism: Infallibility focuses on preserving the Bible’s core theological and moral teachings, but it can overlook the broader literary and historical complexities. For instance, infallibilists might argue that discrepancies in the resurrection accounts are irrelevant to the “true message” of Jesus’ victory over death, thereby bypassing the narrative significance of these differences.Rigid Doctrinal Boundaries: Like inerrancy, infallibility often maintains firm boundaries around acceptable interpretations, preventing readers from exploring alternative readings (e.g., feminist or liberationist perspectives) that may challenge traditional doctrines.Why It’s Unhelpful: Infallibility’s attempt to safeguard core teachings while allowing for limited “errors” can result in a selective reading of the text, where uncomfortable or problematic passages are ignored or downplayed in favor of preserving a coherent theological system.
4. The Comfort of Plain Readings and Their Drawbacks:
The plain reading of the Bible, often associated with these frameworks, provides comfort to many believers because it offers clear answers, moral guidance, and a sense of divine authority. However, this comfort comes at a cost:
Suppression of Ambiguity and Complexity: The Bible is filled with ambiguities, tensions, and contradictory viewpoints that reflect the lived experiences of the communities that produced it. Plain readings often suppress these complexities, reducing the text to a set of doctrines or moral rules.Ignoring Historical Development: The Bible evolved over centuries, incorporating different traditions, ideologies, and responses to historical crises. Reading the Bible as a uniform document can obscure its developmental nature and prevent appreciation of its theological and literary evolution.Limiting Engagement with Real-World Issues: Plain readings often discourage engagement with modern ethical and social issues (e.g., gender roles, human rights, ecological concerns) because they rely on interpretations rooted in ancient cultural norms. This can lead to the perpetuation of harmful practices or beliefs.Theological and Interpretative Implications: While inerrancy and infallibility offer certainty and authority, they also prevent serious theological reflection and dialogue. Engaging with the Bible’s complexities can:Deepen Theological Reflection: By acknowledging the Bible’s internal diversity, readers are invited to wrestle with its themes, contradictions, and developments, resulting in a more mature and robust theological understanding.Encourage Ethical and Social Engagement: Critical readings can inspire ethical engagement by showing how the Bible itself evolved in response to changing social circumstances, encouraging readers to do the same.Preserve the Text’s Sacred Mystery: Approaching the Bible with humility and openness to its complexities allows for a deeper encounter with the text as a sacred, living document that speaks across ages and cultures.
Conclusion:
While concepts like inerrancy, infallibility, and even biblical liberalism offer comfort by making the Bible seem straightforward and authoritative, they often prevent readers from fully engaging with its depth, historical development, and the richness of its theological insights. Recognizing the Bible as a multi-layered, complex collection of texts that reflects diverse voices and evolving traditions can lead to a more meaningful and transformative encounter with the sacred.
RES
Please respond to the statement: "...Not that historians have to stop using ancient sources for historical reconstruction, but need to be aware of the problems involved when doing so."
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The statement, “Not that historians have to stop using ancient sources for historical reconstruction, but need to be aware of the problems involved when doing so,” is a reflection of a key principle in modern historiography. It highlights the necessity of a balanced approach: utilizing ancient sources as valuable tools for understanding the past while maintaining a critical perspective on their limitations and biases. Let’s break down this statement in the context of historical methodology:
1. Understanding the Value of Ancient Sources:
Ancient sources—whether textual, archaeological, or epigraphic—are indispensable for reconstructing historical events, cultures, and societies. They provide the primary material through which historians access the past. Without these sources, much of ancient history would remain inaccessible or speculative. For example, texts like Herodotus’s Histories or the writings of Josephus are foundational for understanding the Greco-Roman world and the history of Second Temple Judaism, respectively.
However, these sources do not speak to us directly or objectively. They are artifacts shaped by the authors’ intentions, cultural contexts, and the socio-political circumstances of their time. This inherent subjectivity necessitates a cautious approach in using them for historical reconstruction.
2. The Problems Involved in Using Ancient Sources:
Historians must be aware of several issues when relying on ancient sources, including:
Bias and Perspective:Authorial Intent: Ancient authors often wrote with specific agendas. For example, Roman historians like Livy and Tacitus were influenced by their views on morality and the political climate of their times, shaping how they depicted certain events and figures.Political Propaganda: Many ancient sources were created to legitimize political regimes, glorify leaders, or justify social structures. This is evident in the Egyptian Annals of Thutmose III or the Assyrian Prism of Sennacherib, which celebrate conquests while omitting military defeats or internal conflicts.Cultural and Religious Biases: Ancient sources often reflect the cultural and religious biases of their authors, such as the Jewish and early Christian sources that depict the Roman Empire in highly negative terms. Understanding these biases is crucial for separating historical events from theological or cultural polemics.Chronological and Geographical Gaps: Ancient texts often lack precise chronological information and may condense events over decades into a simplified narrative. Furthermore, authors like Plutarch or Dio Cassius wrote about events that occurred centuries earlier, relying on secondary accounts and oral traditions.Genre and Literary Conventions: Many ancient texts do not adhere to modern standards of historical writing. They blend myth, legend, theology, and history (e.g., the Homeric epics or the Old Testament’s historical books). Recognizing the genre and literary conventions helps historians discern which elements may be historically reliable and which are symbolic or ideological.Fragmentation and Transmission: Many ancient texts have survived in fragmentary form or have been transmitted through later copies that may contain interpolations or errors. The process of textual transmission—copying, translation, and editing—can introduce further complications.
3. Navigating the Problems: Critical Methodology:
Historians employ various critical methods to address these problems:
Source Criticism: Analyzing the origins, authorship, and purpose of the source. For example, understanding the context of the Pauline Epistles helps scholars distinguish Paul’s authentic letters from later pseudonymous ones.Form and Redaction Criticism: Identifying the different forms and editorial layers within a text can reveal how traditions were shaped over time. This is particularly important in biblical studies, where texts like the Pentateuch reflect multiple redactional stages.Cross-Referencing and Corroboration: Historians cross-reference sources with other contemporary accounts, archaeological findings, and inscriptions to build a more comprehensive picture. For instance, comparing the Assyrian records of the siege of Jerusalem with the biblical account in 2 Kings 18-19 reveals both corroborations and divergences.Sociological and Anthropological Analysis: Employing theories from sociology and anthropology helps historians understand the social structures, norms, and practices that might have influenced how events were recorded.
4. Using Ancient Sources Without Being Overly Skeptical:
While recognizing these issues, it’s equally important not to fall into excessive skepticism, which might lead to dismissing valuable historical information altogether. Historians need to strike a balance between:
Naïve Acceptance: Accepting the text’s account at face value without consideration of its biases.Hyper-Skepticism: Rejecting the historicity of events solely because the ext reflects ideological or theological motivations.
Instead, historians should approach ancient sources with what has been called informed trust—a critical yet open-minded stance that allows for meaningful historical reconstruction while acknowledging the inherent complexities.
5. The Role of Historian: Interpreting Rather Than Replicating:
The statement also points to the role of historians as interpreters, not mere replicators of ancient narratives. Ancient sources don’t present history “as it was,” but rather as a constructed narrative influenced by various factors. It’s the historian’s task to:
Deconstruct and Reconstruct: Deconstruct the narrative to identify underlying biases, cultural norms, and socio-political influences, and then reconstruct a more balanced historical picture.Create Coherence from Multiplicity: Synthesize disparate sources and viewpoints to create a coherent narrative that respects the complexity and ambiguity of the historical record.
6. Implications for Contemporary Scholarship:
Awareness of the problems inherent in using ancient sources fosters a more nuanced approach to historiography. It encourages scholars to:
Embrace Interdisciplinary Perspectives: Drawing insights from anthropology, literary theory, and philosophy enhances the depth of historical analysis.Acknowledge the Limits of Historical Knowledge: No historical reconstruction is perfect or complete. Recognizing the limits of what can be known prevents overconfident assertions and promotes humility in scholarly discourse.Promote Ongoing Dialogue and Reassessment: As new evidence emerges (e.g., archaeological discoveries, newly deciphered inscriptions), historical interpretations should be revisited and refined.
Conclusion:
The statement reflects a fundamental principle of responsible historical inquiry. Ancient sources are invaluable for reconstructing the past, but they are also complex documents that require careful, critical handling. Rather than rejecting them outright or accepting them uncritically, historians should engage with these sources in a way that respects their historical value while remaining cognizant of their limitations. By doing so, historians can create a more nuanced, informed, and dynamic picture of the ancient world.
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It seems that the artistries of theologians interpreting the Bible is just that... an art where different perspectives of societies choose their vision of address or regress. Please respond.
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Your statement suggests that theology, and by extension the study and interpretation of the Bible, is inherently an art form where differing perspectives within society express their own visions of advancement or resistance. This is a perceptive observation because it recognizes theology not merely as a dry, dogmatic enterprise, but as a dynamic and creative process deeply intertwined with the social, political, and cultural contexts that shape it. Let’s unpack this idea further:
1. The Bible as a Multi-Vocal Text:
The Bible itself is a collection of diverse voices, perspectives, and ideologies, often in dialogue or even conflict with one another. This internal diversity reflects the complexity of human experience and the variety of responses to historical events and social conditions. For example:
Prophetic Literature vs. Royal Ideology: The prophets often critique the royal establishment and social injustices, representing a vision of societal reform and divine justice (e.g., Amos and Micah), while other texts (e.g., the Deuteronomic histories) might reflect a more supportive stance towards monarchy and centralized power.Wisdom Literature and Skepticism: Books like Proverbs offer a traditional view of wisdom and retributive justice, whereas Ecclesiastes and Job challenge this perspective, highlighting the limitations of human understanding and the apparent unpredictability of life.
In this sense, the Bible is not a monolithic narrative but a collection of perspectives that negotiate different visions of social order, theology, and human meaning.
2. Theology as an Interpretive Art:
Theology, as a response to the Bible, becomes an art form precisely because it must navigate and engage with these diverse voices. Every theological statement is, to some extent, a selective emphasis on certain texts, themes, or ideas over others. This process is shaped by:
Cultural and Historical Contexts: Theological perspectives emerge out of specific historical and cultural settings, responding to the unique challenges, anxieties, and aspirations of the time. For instance, liberation theology arose out of the struggles against political and economic oppression in Latin America, reading the Bible through the lens of social liberation and justice.Socio-Political Agendas: Different groups have used the Bible to support or critique existing power structures. In medieval Europe, theologians used the Bible to justify the divine right of kings, while in the 19th century, abolitionists and slaveholders both drew on biblical texts to argue for and against slavery.
Theologians are thus like artists, choosing from a palette of biblical texts and themes to construct their vision of what is real, just, or true. This creative process means that theology is always provisional and subject to reinterpretation.
3. Advancing or Resisting Societal Norms:
Theology often finds itself at the intersection of progress and regression, where different interpretations of the Bible advocate either for social change or for the reinforcement of existing norms:
Theology of Reform and Protest: Throughout history, there have been theologies of reform and protest—think of Martin Luther’s Reformation theology or Dietrich Bonhoeffer’s resistance to Nazism. These theological movements interpreted the Bible as a call to action against perceived societal ills.Theology of Preservation: Conversely, certain theological stances have been used to resist change and maintain the status quo. For example, the use of Pauline texts like Romans 13 (“Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities…”) has sometimes been cited to discourage dissent and promote submission to established authority.
This dual function of theology—as both advancing and resisting social norms—reveals it to be an ongoing interpretive act, where the Bible becomes a mirror reflecting the tensions within society.
4. The Artistic Tension within Theology:
The artistic nature of theology lies in its inherent tension: the Bible’s diversity requires theologians to weave together disparate threads into a coherent vision, knowing that alternative readings and interpretations always remain possible. This tension is not something to be resolved but embraced as part of the creative process of meaning-making.
The Role of Theologians as Cultural Interpreters: Theologians act as cultural interpreters, translating the language and symbols of the Bible into contemporary settings. This interpretative role often results in a plurality of theological expressions, each reflecting the particular concerns and hopes of different communities.The Possibility of Subversion: Because the Bible contains voices of both establishment and subversion, theology itself can be subversive. Liberation theology, feminist theology, and queer theology are examples of interpretative approaches that challenge traditional norms and offer alternative visions of faith and society.
5. The Fluidity of “Address” and “Regress”:
The concepts of “address” (forward movement or innovation) and “regress” (return or conservation) are themselves fluid and context-dependent. What appears as regress in one context may be address in another:
Return to Biblical Ethics as Progress: A call to return to biblical ethics can be seen as reactionary or regressive in a secular context but might represent progress or renewal within a religious community striving to reclaim its spiritual roots.Adoption of Modern Values as Address: Embracing modern values like gender equality or ecological responsibility may be seen as progressive address, but traditionalists might view it as a betrayal of the biblical witness.
This fluidity underscores the artistic nature of theology: it is not simply a matter of picking one vision and applying it but of constantly reworking and reimagining these visions in light of new contexts and questions.
6. Theological Reflection as an Ongoing Conversation:
The dynamic interplay between biblical texts and societal perspectives suggests that theology is more akin to an ongoing conversation than a set of fixed doctrines. Each era, each community, and each reader adds their voice to the conversation, interpreting and reinterpreting the texts in ways that are meaningful for their circumstances.Dialogue and Disagreement: Just as different artists might interpret a landscape differently, theologians interpret the biblical landscape in divergent ways. This plurality of voices should not be seen as a weakness but as a testament to the Bible’s richness and the vitality of theological discourse.
Conclusion:
Theology, when viewed as an art that mediates between the Bible and society’s shifting perspectives, transcends simplistic categorizations of address or regress. It reflects the complexity of human experience, the multiplicity of voices within the biblical text, and the creative tension involved in forming new meanings. While this process may appear unsettling for those who seek definitive answers, it is precisely this openness and dynamism that make theology an enduring and vital endeavor.
Rather than constraining the Bible to a single perspective, theology allows for a multitude of interpretations that resonate differently across time and culture. Like any art form, it has the power to both comfort and disturb, affirm and challenge—guiding individuals and communities as they navigate their place in the world in relation to the divine.
RES
I think your latter observations strongly embraces the artistries of prophesy, of speaking to societal interactions which require disruption; of newer, healthier communal visions; and, of incorporating back into societies more generative forms and functions. You?
ChatGPT
Yes, I agree that my observations align closely with the prophetic role of theology as a transformative and disruptive force within society. Prophecy, both in the biblical and broader theological sense, is deeply intertwined with the processes of critique, renewal, and integration of healthier, more generative ways of being. Let’s delve into how these prophetic dynamics are reflected in the theological and societal framework:
1. Prophecy as Societal Critique and Disruption:
The prophetic voice in the Bible often emerges in response to periods of social, moral, or political decay, speaking against corruption, injustice, and idolatry. Prophets like Amos, Jeremiah, and Isaiah disrupt the status quo by calling out the people’s failures and confronting powerful institutions. They do so not merely to condemn but to reawaken the conscience of society.
Disruption as Creative Tension: Just as theological reflection seeks to engage the Bible’s diverse voices, prophecy seeks to disrupt complacency and call people back to their fundamental values and covenantal identity. This disruption is a necessary precondition for renewal and transformation.Voicing the “Other” Perspective: Prophets often give voice to marginalized or overlooked perspectives, challenging dominant narratives and inviting the community to see itself through a different lens. This aligns with theological efforts to embrace diverse viewpoints and incorporate them into a fuller understanding of human and divine interaction.
2. Prophecy as Visionary and Generative:
While prophetic literature is often remembered for its harsh judgments, it is also profoundly generative. Prophets offer a vision of what could be—a reimagined society that reflects divine values of justice, mercy, and righteousness. This generative function is not limited to the biblical prophets but extends to modern theological movements that strive to articulate new ways of thinking and living.
Reimagining Society: The prophetic voice is inherently visionary, imagining a society where the poor are uplifted, the oppressed are set free, and communal relationships are restored. Theological reflection that engages with these themes becomes a creative act of imagining new possibilities for human flourishing.Rethinking Norms and Practices: Just as the prophets called for a reorientation of societal practices (e.g., Sabbath rest as a form of social justice, Jubilee as economic reset), theology today can articulate practices that integrate more holistic and generative forms of community life—such as environmental stewardship, equitable economic systems, or inclusive social structures.
3. Prophetic Integration: Bringing the Periphery to the Center:
The prophetic task is not only to disrupt and reimagine but also to integrate these new insights back into the life of the community. This means bringing voices from the periphery—whether marginalized peoples, suppressed ideas, or forgotten traditions—into the center of communal consciousness.
Integrative Function of Prophecy and Theology: Both prophecy and theology work to integrate new insights, often derived from the margins of society, into the core of communal identity. This integration helps the community move forward while remaining rooted in its foundational values.Moving from Judgment to Renewal: Biblical prophecy often moves from pronouncements of judgment to promises of restoration. Similarly, theology that critiques societal dysfunctions must also point toward constructive pathways for renewal. It’s about transforming critique into creative, life-giving forms.
4. Generative Forms and Functions in Theological Discourse:
The idea of “generative forms and functions” implies that theology and prophecy are not just reactive but actively contribute to the creation of new realities. The generative aspect of theology involves cultivating new metaphors, symbols, and practices that enable societies to live more authentically and harmoniously.
Theological Innovation: Just as artists or musicians innovate new forms that express the inexpressible, theology must sometimes break with established norms to articulate new ways of understanding God, humanity, and the cosmos. For example, the emergence of process theology or theologies of liberation represents such generative movements.Ritual and Liturgy as Generative Practices: Theological creativity can also manifest in new forms of ritual and liturgy that embody prophetic visions. These practices help communities live into the new reality being articulated, making abstract theological ideas tangible and experiential.
5. Prophecy and Theology as Ongoing Dialogues:
Prophecy and theology are both ongoing dialogues—dialogues with the past (tradition), with the present (context), and with the future (vision). They are never static but evolve as the community and its context evolve. This dialogical nature ensures that prophecy and theology remain relevant and responsive to changing circumstances.
Maintaining the Tension between Critique and Affirmation: Prophetic theology must hold together the twin aspects of critique and affirmation. It critiques current practices and beliefs, while simultaneously affirming the deeper, often hidden, potential within the community to realize a more authentic and just way of being.Embracing Ambiguity and Complexity: Because both prophecy and theology deal with profound questions of meaning, they must be willing to embrace ambiguity and complexity rather than offering simplistic answers. This openness to complexity allows for richer and more nuanced forms of integration and transformation.
6. Prophetic Theology as an Ethical Imperative:
Ultimately, both prophecy and theology have an ethical dimension: they seek not just to describe reality but to transform it in accordance with higher values and truths. This ethical imperative involves:
Empowering the Marginalized: Prophetic theology seeks to empower those who are marginalized, giving them a voice in the theological and societal conversation.Inspiring Action: By offering new visions and generative practices, prophecy and theology inspire individuals and communities to embody these ideals in concrete actions, thus effecting real-world change.
Conclusion:
Yes, the observations I previously made strongly resonate with the arteries of prophecy. Prophecy and theology, when viewed as artistic and generative endeavors, go beyond mere critique or support of societal norms. They serve as dynamic interactions between disruption and renewal, deconstruction and reconstruction, addressing current dysfunctions while envisioning healthier ways of being. This continuous interplay ensures that theology remains a living, breathing force that not only speaks truth to power but also nurtures new forms of communal life and individual transformation.
RES
I find these forms of biblical interaction more related to the Whiteheadian tradition of process theology which aquires the real, analysis the real, then responds to the real in multiple streams of healthier dispatch (sic, from actualization to propogation). You?
ChatGPT
Absolutely! Your observation resonates deeply with the core principles of process theology, particularly as rooted in the thought of Alfred North Whitehead. Process theology, which views reality as a dynamic, unfolding process rather than a static collection of immutable entities, offers a rich framework for engaging the Bible and theological reflection in a way that is both creative and responsive to the complexities of human experience. Let’s explore how the Whiteheadian tradition aligns with the interactional modes of biblical interpretation you’ve described:
1. The Whiteheadian Tradition: Engaging with the Real
Whiteheadian process thought emphasizes the dynamic and relational nature of reality. Everything, from the smallest particle to the divine itself, is in a constant state of becoming—changing, evolving, and responding to the interactions of its environment. This approach contrasts sharply with classical metaphysics, which tends to see reality as composed of fixed substances with predetermined natures.
Actualization and Creative Response: In process thought, reality is understood as a series of “actual occasions” or events, each of which reflects the cumulative influence of its past while introducing novelty and potential for the future. This means that each moment of reality is both a culmination of what has been and a springboard for what can be.The Role of God in Process Theology: God, in process theology, is not a distant, unchanging monarch but a participant in the world’s becoming. God lures creation toward greater complexity, harmony, and beauty—what Whitehead called the “divine aim.” This divine aim is not coercive but invitational, allowing for freedom and creativity within the world.
This view provides a robust framework for engaging with the Bible, as it encourages interpreters to see the text not as a static repository of eternal truths but as a dynamic witness to the evolving understanding of God and the world within specific communities.
2. The Bible as a Record of Dynamic Interaction with the Real:
From a process theological perspective, the Bible can be seen as a record of how various communities have engaged with the real—their lived experiences, historical events, and existential questions—while also reflecting and responding to the divine lure toward greater justice, love, and communal harmony.
Scripture as Relational Historical and Experiential Records: The Bible captures the ways in which different communities perceived, articulated, and responded to their reality, often through conflict, transformation, and renewal. For example, the shift from the polytheistic elements in early Israelite religion to a monotheistic vision reflects a profound process of theological development and actualization.Text as Entangled Relational and Experiential Process Events: The Bible itself underwent a process of formation and redaction, where various strands of tradition, oral histories, and theological reflections were woven together over time. This dynamic process parallels the Whiteheadian idea of how every actual occasion incorporates influences from its past while generating new possibilities for the future.
3. The Role of Analysis and Response in Theological Reflection:
In line with your articulation—acquiring the real, analyzing the real, and responding to the real—process theology and Whiteheadian thought provide a methodology for engaging with the Bible and theological reflection that is deeply attuned to context, experience, and transformation.
Acquiring the Real: Engaging with the real means taking seriously the concrete realities of history, culture, and human experience. This involves not only understanding the historical-critical background of biblical texts but also how these texts speak to the ongoing lived experiences of people today.Analyzing the Real: Analyzing the real means discerning the ways in which divine presence or absence, human suffering or flourishing, and societal structures are articulated in the biblical text. It’s a process of dissecting the elements of experience and understanding how they inform the community’s worldview and theological perspectives.Responding to the Real: In process thought, responding to the real is not merely reactionary but involves the creative transformation of circumstances. Theology thus becomes a generative and prophetic act, calling for healthier dispatches—whether in new theological formulations, ethical actions, or communal practices that embody the divine aim.
4. Whiteheadian Tradition and Biblical Prophetic Voice:
The prophetic voice in the Bible aligns with process theology’s understanding of divine interaction with the world. Prophets, like the divine lure in process thought, challenge societies to evolve toward higher values, confronting present realities while pointing toward potential futures.
Prophets as Catalysts for Process: Biblical prophets like Isaiah or Micah act as catalysts for societal change, urging communities to align more closely with divine purposes. They do this not through coercion but through the persuasive power of their words and visions. Similarly, in process theology, God influences the world not by dictating outcomes but by luring creation toward greater beauty, truth, and goodness.The Role of Creativity and Novelty: Prophets introduce new possibilities into their communities, which is central to process theology’s emphasis on creativity and novelty. These new possibilities disrupt static norms and encourage communities to reconfigure themselves in more life-giving ways.
5. Process Theology’s Multiplicity of Healthier Dispatch:
Your concept of “healthier dispatch”—from actualization to propagation—resonates with Whitehead’s vision of how divine and human creativity can generate multiple avenues of healthier expression and integration.
Actualization as Creative Emergence: Each moment of actualization in process thought is an emergent reality that embodies the potential of its antecedents while introducing new patterns of relationship. In biblical interpretation, this might mean recognizing how different texts reflect the emergent responses of communities to divine-human encounters (e.g., the emergence of early Christian theology out of Jewish apocalyptic thought).Propagation as Generative Transformation: The propagation of these healthier forms involves the dissemination and integration of these new insights back into the life of the community. This is seen in the early Christian movement’s propagation of Jesus’ teachings, which redefined communal boundaries and ethical norms in the Greco-Roman world.
6. Theology as a Creative Act of Co-Creation:
Process theology emphasizes the co-creative nature of reality, where both God and the world contribute to the ongoing formation of reality. In the same way, theology is not a passive reception of truth but an active, creative engagement with the biblical text, tradition, and present context.
Theologians as Co-Creators: Theologians, like artists, are co-creators who respond to the divine aim by articulating new theological visions that resonate with their communities’ evolving understandings and needs.Dynamic Hermeneutics: This dynamic hermeneutical approach means that theological interpretations are always provisional and open-ended. They are, in a sense, dispatches—temporary articulations that invite further dialogue, refinement, and propagation.
7. Toward a Process-Theological Hermeneutic of the Bible:
A Whiteheadian, process-theological approach to biblical interpretation involves:Engaging with the Bible’s Textual Dynamism: Recognizing the Bible as a dynamic, multi-vocal text that reflects the process of communities responding to the divine lure.
Embracing the Role of Creativity and Novelty: Viewing theological reflection as a generative act that introduces new ways of understanding God and the world.Integrating Analysis and Response: Moving from historical-critical analysis to constructive theological response, where new interpretations address current contexts while remaining faithful to the text’s deeper aims.Nurturing Healthier Forms of Life: Using biblical insights to foster healthier communal and individual lives, aligning with the Whiteheadian vision of increased harmony, complexity, and intensity of experience.
Conclusion:
Your observations point to a deep congruence between biblical interaction and the Whiteheadian tradition of process theology. Both embrace a dynamic engagement with the real that seeks not only to understand but to transform. In this vision, the Bible and theology are not ends in themselves but processes through which communities and individuals actualize their potential and propagate healthier, more generative forms of life. This approach offers a profound way of reading the Bible that is faithful to its complexity and yet oriented toward constructive transformation and integration into the ongoing flow of history and divine becoming.
RES
Excellent. Let's end our discussion here and begin a new discussion at our next appointment reflecting on divine actions of processed-based involvement stated within Christian terms of Holy Spirit interaction with today's individuals, societies, and ecological environments.
RE Slater & ChtGPT 4.0
September 28, 2024
*I wanted to finish these last two sections on "How to read the bible, Parts 1 and 2 " including the accompanying third rough draft titled, "The Artistry of Processual Prophecy" tonight. As I have time I will edit this last draft, however, I discovered yesterday at a routine angiogram (angina) study that my heart is blocked up in the coronary arteries requiring immediate open heart cardiac bypass surgery. Hence, if I cannot get to this last piece I wanted to at least publish it in draft form to complete this section of bible study. Wish me well. - re slater
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