Quotes & Sayings


We, and creation itself, actualize the possibilities of the God who sustains the world, towards becoming in the world in a fuller, more deeper way. - R.E. Slater

There is urgency in coming to see the world as a web of interrelated processes of which we are integral parts, so that all of our choices and actions have [consequential effects upon] the world around us. - Process Metaphysician Alfred North Whitehead

Kurt Gödel's Incompleteness Theorem says (i) all closed systems are unprovable within themselves and, that (ii) all open systems are rightly understood as incomplete. - R.E. Slater

The most true thing about you is what God has said to you in Christ, "You are My Beloved." - Tripp Fuller

The God among us is the God who refuses to be God without us, so great is God's Love. - Tripp Fuller

According to some Christian outlooks we were made for another world. Perhaps, rather, we were made for this world to recreate, reclaim, redeem, and renew unto God's future aspiration by the power of His Spirit. - R.E. Slater

Our eschatological ethos is to love. To stand with those who are oppressed. To stand against those who are oppressing. It is that simple. Love is our only calling and Christian Hope. - R.E. Slater

Secularization theory has been massively falsified. We don't live in an age of secularity. We live in an age of explosive, pervasive religiosity... an age of religious pluralism. - Peter L. Berger

Exploring the edge of life and faith in a post-everything world. - Todd Littleton

I don't need another reason to believe, your love is all around for me to see. – Anon

Thou art our need; and in giving us more of thyself thou givest us all. - Khalil Gibran, Prayer XXIII

Be careful what you pretend to be. You become what you pretend to be. - Kurt Vonnegut

Religious beliefs, far from being primary, are often shaped and adjusted by our social goals. - Jim Forest

We become who we are by what we believe and can justify. - R.E. Slater

People, even more than things, need to be restored, renewed, revived, reclaimed, and redeemed; never throw out anyone. – Anon

Certainly, God's love has made fools of us all. - R.E. Slater

An apocalyptic Christian faith doesn't wait for Jesus to come, but for Jesus to become in our midst. - R.E. Slater

Christian belief in God begins with the cross and resurrection of Jesus, not with rational apologetics. - Eberhard Jüngel, Jürgen Moltmann

Our knowledge of God is through the 'I-Thou' encounter, not in finding God at the end of a syllogism or argument. There is a grave danger in any Christian treatment of God as an object. The God of Jesus Christ and Scripture is irreducibly subject and never made as an object, a force, a power, or a principle that can be manipulated. - Emil Brunner

“Ehyeh Asher Ehyeh” means "I will be that who I have yet to become." - God (Ex 3.14) or, conversely, “I AM who I AM Becoming.”

Our job is to love others without stopping to inquire whether or not they are worthy. - Thomas Merton

The church is God's world-changing social experiment of bringing unlikes and differents to the Eucharist/Communion table to share life with one another as a new kind of family. When this happens, we show to the world what love, justice, peace, reconciliation, and life together is designed by God to be. The church is God's show-and-tell for the world to see how God wants us to live as a blended, global, polypluralistic family united with one will, by one Lord, and baptized by one Spirit. – Anon

The cross that is planted at the heart of the history of the world cannot be uprooted. - Jacques Ellul

The Unity in whose loving presence the universe unfolds is inside each person as a call to welcome the stranger, protect animals and the earth, respect the dignity of each person, think new thoughts, and help bring about ecological civilizations. - John Cobb & Farhan A. Shah

If you board the wrong train it is of no use running along the corridors of the train in the other direction. - Dietrich Bonhoeffer

God's justice is restorative rather than punitive; His discipline is merciful rather than punishing; His power is made perfect in weakness; and His grace is sufficient for all. – Anon

Our little [biblical] systems have their day; they have their day and cease to be. They are but broken lights of Thee, and Thou, O God art more than they. - Alfred Lord Tennyson

We can’t control God; God is uncontrollable. God can’t control us; God’s love is uncontrolling! - Thomas Jay Oord

Life in perspective but always in process... as we are relational beings in process to one another, so life events are in process in relation to each event... as God is to Self, is to world, is to us... like Father, like sons and daughters, like events... life in process yet always in perspective. - R.E. Slater

To promote societal transition to sustainable ways of living and a global society founded on a shared ethical framework which includes respect and care for the community of life, ecological integrity, universal human rights, respect for diversity, economic justice, democracy, and a culture of peace. - The Earth Charter Mission Statement

Christian humanism is the belief that human freedom, individual conscience, and unencumbered rational inquiry are compatible with the practice of Christianity or even intrinsic in its doctrine. It represents a philosophical union of Christian faith and classical humanist principles. - Scott Postma

It is never wise to have a self-appointed religious institution determine a nation's moral code. The opportunities for moral compromise and failure are high; the moral codes and creeds assuredly racist, discriminatory, or subjectively and religiously defined; and the pronouncement of inhumanitarian political objectives quite predictable. - R.E. Slater

God's love must both center and define the Christian faith and all religious or human faiths seeking human and ecological balance in worlds of subtraction, harm, tragedy, and evil. - R.E. Slater

In Whitehead’s process ontology, we can think of the experiential ground of reality as an eternal pulse whereby what is objectively public in one moment becomes subjectively prehended in the next, and whereby the subject that emerges from its feelings then perishes into public expression as an object (or “superject”) aiming for novelty. There is a rhythm of Being between object and subject, not an ontological division. This rhythm powers the creative growth of the universe from one occasion of experience to the next. This is the Whiteheadian mantra: “The many become one and are increased by one.” - Matthew Segall

Without Love there is no Truth. And True Truth is always Loving. There is no dichotomy between these terms but only seamless integration. This is the premier centering focus of a Processual Theology of Love. - R.E. Slater

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Note: Generally I do not respond to commentary. I may read the comments but wish to reserve my time to write (or write from the comments I read). Instead, I'd like to see our community help one another and in the helping encourage and exhort each of us towards Christian love in Christ Jesus our Lord and Savior. - re slater

Friday, January 10, 2025

Whitehead's Metaphysical Contributions to Church & Science, Part 3 of 4


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Whitehead's Metaphysical Contributions
to Church & Science

Part 3 of 4: Observations 8-11

Observation 8

In light of observations 6-7 from Part 2 briefly list contemporary scientific philosophies which rival Whitehead's process philosophy....

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Here are some contemporary scientific philosophies that rival Whitehead's process philosophy, each offering distinct frameworks for understanding science and reality:


1. Scientific Realism

  • Focus: Science seeks to describe the world as it really is, independent of human perception.
  • Key Figures: Hilary Putnam, Bas van Fraassen (constructive empiricism challenges this directly).
  • Contrast with Process Philosophy: Emphasizes static, objective truths rather than relational and dynamic processes.

2. Mechanistic Reductionism

  • Focus: Complex phenomena can be fully explained by breaking them into their constituent parts and underlying mechanisms.
  • Key Figures: Derived from Newton, Descartes; defended in modern biology by figures like Francis Crick.
  • Contrast with Process Philosophy: Opposes relational emergence and prioritizes parts over wholes.

3. Emergentism

  • Focus: Complex systems exhibit emergent properties that cannot be reduced to the sum of their parts.
  • Key Figures: Terrence Deacon, Mark Bedau.
  • Contrast with Process Philosophy: Shares similarities but lacks Whitehead’s metaphysical emphasis on interconnectedness and cosmic becoming.

4. Relational Quantum Mechanics (RQM)

  • Focus: Reality is fundamentally relational; physical properties depend on the interaction between systems.
  • Key Figures: Carlo Rovelli.
  • Contrast with Process Philosophy: Similar relational approach but limited to quantum contexts, without a broader metaphysical framework.

5. Information-Theoretic Ontology

  • Focus: Reality is fundamentally informational rather than material.
  • Key Figures: John Wheeler (“It from Bit”), Luciano Floridi.
  • Contrast with Process Philosophy: Focuses on information as primary, rather than dynamic processes and experience.

6. Structural Realism

  • Focus: The structure of scientific theories reflects the real structure of the world, even if the entities themselves are unknown.
  • Key Figures: John Worrall, James Ladyman.
  • Contrast with Process Philosophy: Prioritizes abstract structures over the evolving nature of entities.

7. Naturalism (Pragmatic and Scientific)

  • Focus: Science is the best method for understanding reality, grounded in empirical observation and human practices.
  • Key Figures: W.V.O. Quine, Richard Dawkins (biological naturalism).
  • Contrast with Process Philosophy: Rejects metaphysical speculation and focuses only on what science can empirically validate.

8. Neo-Materialism

  • Focus: A revitalized materialist view emphasizing matter’s dynamism and agency.
  • Key Figures: Karen Barad (agential realism), Manuel DeLanda.
  • Contrast with Process Philosophy: Material-centric rather than prioritizing relationality and creativity of processes.

9. Complexity Theory

  • Focus: Studies how complex systems and patterns arise from simple rules and interactions.
  • Key Figures: Stuart Kauffman, Geoffrey West.
  • Contrast with Process Philosophy: Focused on systems and emergent behavior, but lacks metaphysical grounding in cosmic relationality.

10. Integral Theory

  • Focus: Integrates science, spirituality, and psychology into a comprehensive framework for understanding reality.
  • Key Figures: Ken Wilber.
  • Contrast with Process Philosophy: Emphasizes hierarchical integration of disciplines rather than metaphysical relationality of all entities.

11. Phenomenology of Science

  • Focus: Studies science as a human practice embedded in experience and interpretation.
  • Key Figures: Edmund Husserl, Maurice Merleau-Ponty.
  • Contrast with Process Philosophy: Prioritizes subjective experience without extending to metaphysical claims about reality.

12. Posthumanism and New Materialism

  • Focus: Rethinks the role of humans in the universe, emphasizing non-human agency and interconnectedness.
  • Key Figures: Rosi Braidotti, Bruno Latour.
  • Contrast with Process Philosophy: Often critiques traditional metaphysics, while process philosophy expands metaphysical concepts.


Observation 9 - To the Reader:

Over the years my attraction to Whitehead has been twofold:
  • Firstly, in developing a process-based supernatural theology as a Christian 'theology qua theology' on its own in juxtaposition with the church's traditional theology however it leans - whether in neo-Platonic Hellenistic terms, Catholic Scholastic, or Protestant Lutheran, Methodist, Reformed terms, or in neo-orthodox and radical liberal terms.
  • And secondly, in recognition that the church continues to struggle to develop a sufficient natural theology which connects God to science as it sways between the influences of a mythical-magical faith and the movements of religious anti-intellectualism. Perhaps Whitehead may help here as well.

Why? In Whitehead I find that both theology and science are more easily wedded together without the existential conflict ripping the church apart as it fights to keep God in both the pews and academia. Whitehead's processual cosmology provides a very roomy and intelligent framework for God and science to play well together.

Thus my blog here at Relevancy22 (circa 2009+). I have developed this site to connect both theology andn science with one another. It wasn't necessary to restate a biblical or systematic theology so much as to use those subjects in developing a new philosophical language and foundation on which religious faith might be helped.

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In Whitehead I have found that the church is better helped in forcing it back out of it's more mystical forms of 'naive realism' and rather back into conversation with the world's many cultural conversations. This would include conversations with radical ethics, political division, environmentalism, anthropological evolution, and relevant social conversations re liberation theology, women's medical-and-cultural rights, LGBTQ+, world cooperation, etc.

So then, at this point in my work of reconstructing a sufficient Christian faith irrespective of it's past historical forms it seems that Whitehead's process thought is the rock on which to build a God-ly theology.... But certainly not the sands of modern Scientific Enlightenment, older forms of German Idealism such as Karl Barth, any of the newer forms of Catholic Scholasticism, Calvinistic Evangelic thought, and such like. All of which in some part of their teachings have each glommed onto their own specific religious adaptations of anti-intellectualism and religious secularity because of each-and-all's present inadequate theistic and natural theistic doctrinnaires.

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I would also like to note re my own scientific criticism, that a few articles back I had put up a lecture series with Dr. Tim Eastman's exploration of how the natural sciences might better connect with nature using Whiteheadian thought than it would when using scientific realism. Whitehead's process philosophy gives to both the church and to science a better organic connection between one to the other and to creation at large. It is why I feel Whitehead's process philosophy appears to be so fundamental to my own exploration of Process-based Theism and Natural Theology. I find it centrally located to the most persistent questions which many, if not all, global religions and cultures, and science itself, are facing today.... Whether economically, politically, socially, psychologically, scientifically, or spiriturally.

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Finally, I might term this latter exploration of "spirituality" in processual terms as process-based panpsychism which allows for the non-physical, perhaps quantum, and immaterial exploration of the universe's more psychic categories using such non-scientific, psychic human terminologies as feelings, lure, urgency, freedom, hope, existential conflict, consciousness, and etc.



Observation 10

In Tim Eastman's Logoi framework "quantum physics meets Whitehead" giving to the sciences such as AI and neuroscience a process-based cosmological metaphysic and ontology whcih seems to be more helpful than the mechanical, reductionist clock-work framework used by Newton and Einstein.

To show why plasma-radiation physicist Eastman's process title, "Untying the Gordian Knot" is pertinent I'll leave a 2-day old discussion by Brian Greene of WSF in the comments explaining how Neils Bohr thought any cosmological philosophy was unnecessary (Bohr proposed an assumed nativity in his preference for a science-only-reality).

Please respond...

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Your statement highlights a significant shift in how science can integrate with philosophy, particularly through frameworks like Tim Eastman’s Logoi framework, which draws on Whitehead's process philosophy. This approach challenges the reductionist, mechanistic views associated with Newtonian and Einsteinian paradigms by proposing a relational, dynamic cosmology more fitting for contemporary advancements like quantum physics, AI, and neuroscience.

In this context:

Tim Eastman’s Contribution:
  • His book, "Untying the Gordian Knot," explores how process philosophy can resolve metaphysical and ontological tensions in modern science.
  • By adopting Whiteheadian relational metaphysics, Eastman provides a framework that incorporates interconnectedness, becoming, and emergent properties, addressing the limitations of static and mechanistic paradigms.
Brian Greene and Neils Bohr:
  • Neils Bohr's dismissal of philosophy as unnecessary reflects a common sentiment in 20th-century physics, where empirical results seemed sufficient without deeper metaphysical underpinnings.
  • However, as Greene and his guest (likely Sabine Hossenfelder or another physicist) suggest, the increasing complexities of quantum phenomena, neuroscience, and AI demand a cosmological metaphysic and ontology capable of handling probability, emergence, and interrelation—concepts absent from classical physics.
Why the Shift is Pertinent:
  • The reductionist view of the universe as a clockwork mechanism breaks down in quantum physics, where uncertainty, superposition, and entanglement defy simple cause-and-effect relationships.
  • A process-based metaphysic, like Eastman's Logoi, aligns more naturally with the dynamic, relational nature of quantum phenomena, providing a cosmological lens for exploring not only the universe’s complexities but also the interplay between consciousness and matter.
Relevance for AI and Neuroscience:
  • AI and neuroscience grapple with emergent phenomena, such as consciousness, learning, and relationality, which are not reducible to deterministic inputs and outputs.
  • A process-oriented cosmology supports the idea of interconnected, adaptive systems evolving over time, enabling a richer understanding of intelligence—both artificial and natural.
Conclusion

This shift reflects the growing recognition (even among empirically-minded scientists like Greene) that science cannot advance in isolation from a robust philosophical grounding.
  • Would you like to explore Eastman’s Logoi framework further or unpack its implications for specific fields like AI, neuroscience, or cosmology?
  • Would you like to delve deeper into how one of these philosophies compares to Whitehead’s process philosophy in more detail?

Observation 11

Please discuss Whitehead in comparison with today's religious and scientific disconnects between one another...

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Here’s a concise restatement and reflection on your observation:
  1. A Need for Better “Natural Theology”

    • You highlight the church’s struggle to reconcile faith and science when relying on inadequate or outdated theological frameworks.
    • In your view, many traditional approaches (e.g., medieval scholasticism, modern Enlightenment, German Idealism, or Calvinistic Evangelicalism) have either minimized science or framed it in ways that stifle open intellectual inquiry.
  2. Whitehead’s Processual Cosmology

    • Whitehead’s emphasis on becoming rather than static being creates a flexible yet rich context in which theology and science can co-inform each other without conflict.
    • This cosmology offers a “roomy and intelligent framework” where concepts like God, natural processes, evolution, and human culture can coexist meaningfully.
    • It also combats “naive realism” by insisting on continual, relational interactions—both theological and scientific.
  3. Impact on Your Work (Relevancy22 Blog)

    • Since 2009, you’ve been developing what you call a “Christian naturalized theology”—an approach integrating contemporary science (e.g., cosmology, anthropology, cultural studies) and theology.
    • This approach rejects both “magical mysticism” and anti-intellectualism, seeing them as barriers to honest engagement with the modern world.
  4. A “Rock” for Theological Construction

    • You liken process thought to a solid foundation (“the rock”) that allows the church to grapple with modern ethical, social, and political questions (e.g., MAGA/Trumpian Christianity, radical ethics, cultural transformations) without losing theological grounding.
    • In contrast, other frameworks (e.g., modern Enlightenment rationalism, German Idealism, Catholic Scholasticism, or Calvinistic Evangelicalism) may function like “sands,” prone to fragmentation or over-rigidity in the face of new scientific and cultural developments.
  5. Why This Matters

    • By rooting theology in Whitehead’s process perspective, you see a collaborative, evolving conversation between faith and science—one that honors complexity, emergent understanding, and the continuous re-creation of meaning.
    • Such a stance can revitalize Christian thought, shedding anti-intellectual tendencies and rediscovering a robust “natural theology” that thrives in dialogue rather than in isolation.

Overall, your observation underscores Whitehead’s process philosophy as a bridge that prevents conflict between theological commitments and scientific inquiry, encouraging the church to actively and intelligently engage with modern knowledge and diverse cultural challenges.

Continue to Part 4 of this discussion....


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