Quotes & Sayings


We, and creation itself, actualize the possibilities of the God who sustains the world, towards becoming in the world in a fuller, more deeper way. - R.E. Slater

There is urgency in coming to see the world as a web of interrelated processes of which we are integral parts, so that all of our choices and actions have [consequential effects upon] the world around us. - Process Metaphysician Alfred North Whitehead

Kurt Gödel's Incompleteness Theorem says (i) all closed systems are unprovable within themselves and, that (ii) all open systems are rightly understood as incomplete. - R.E. Slater

The most true thing about you is what God has said to you in Christ, "You are My Beloved." - Tripp Fuller

The God among us is the God who refuses to be God without us, so great is God's Love. - Tripp Fuller

According to some Christian outlooks we were made for another world. Perhaps, rather, we were made for this world to recreate, reclaim, redeem, and renew unto God's future aspiration by the power of His Spirit. - R.E. Slater

Our eschatological ethos is to love. To stand with those who are oppressed. To stand against those who are oppressing. It is that simple. Love is our only calling and Christian Hope. - R.E. Slater

Secularization theory has been massively falsified. We don't live in an age of secularity. We live in an age of explosive, pervasive religiosity... an age of religious pluralism. - Peter L. Berger

Exploring the edge of life and faith in a post-everything world. - Todd Littleton

I don't need another reason to believe, your love is all around for me to see. – Anon

Thou art our need; and in giving us more of thyself thou givest us all. - Khalil Gibran, Prayer XXIII

Be careful what you pretend to be. You become what you pretend to be. - Kurt Vonnegut

Religious beliefs, far from being primary, are often shaped and adjusted by our social goals. - Jim Forest

We become who we are by what we believe and can justify. - R.E. Slater

People, even more than things, need to be restored, renewed, revived, reclaimed, and redeemed; never throw out anyone. – Anon

Certainly, God's love has made fools of us all. - R.E. Slater

An apocalyptic Christian faith doesn't wait for Jesus to come, but for Jesus to become in our midst. - R.E. Slater

Christian belief in God begins with the cross and resurrection of Jesus, not with rational apologetics. - Eberhard Jüngel, Jürgen Moltmann

Our knowledge of God is through the 'I-Thou' encounter, not in finding God at the end of a syllogism or argument. There is a grave danger in any Christian treatment of God as an object. The God of Jesus Christ and Scripture is irreducibly subject and never made as an object, a force, a power, or a principle that can be manipulated. - Emil Brunner

“Ehyeh Asher Ehyeh” means "I will be that who I have yet to become." - God (Ex 3.14) or, conversely, “I AM who I AM Becoming.”

Our job is to love others without stopping to inquire whether or not they are worthy. - Thomas Merton

The church is God's world-changing social experiment of bringing unlikes and differents to the Eucharist/Communion table to share life with one another as a new kind of family. When this happens, we show to the world what love, justice, peace, reconciliation, and life together is designed by God to be. The church is God's show-and-tell for the world to see how God wants us to live as a blended, global, polypluralistic family united with one will, by one Lord, and baptized by one Spirit. – Anon

The cross that is planted at the heart of the history of the world cannot be uprooted. - Jacques Ellul

The Unity in whose loving presence the universe unfolds is inside each person as a call to welcome the stranger, protect animals and the earth, respect the dignity of each person, think new thoughts, and help bring about ecological civilizations. - John Cobb & Farhan A. Shah

If you board the wrong train it is of no use running along the corridors of the train in the other direction. - Dietrich Bonhoeffer

God's justice is restorative rather than punitive; His discipline is merciful rather than punishing; His power is made perfect in weakness; and His grace is sufficient for all. – Anon

Our little [biblical] systems have their day; they have their day and cease to be. They are but broken lights of Thee, and Thou, O God art more than they. - Alfred Lord Tennyson

We can’t control God; God is uncontrollable. God can’t control us; God’s love is uncontrolling! - Thomas Jay Oord

Life in perspective but always in process... as we are relational beings in process to one another, so life events are in process in relation to each event... as God is to Self, is to world, is to us... like Father, like sons and daughters, like events... life in process yet always in perspective. - R.E. Slater

To promote societal transition to sustainable ways of living and a global society founded on a shared ethical framework which includes respect and care for the community of life, ecological integrity, universal human rights, respect for diversity, economic justice, democracy, and a culture of peace. - The Earth Charter Mission Statement

Christian humanism is the belief that human freedom, individual conscience, and unencumbered rational inquiry are compatible with the practice of Christianity or even intrinsic in its doctrine. It represents a philosophical union of Christian faith and classical humanist principles. - Scott Postma

It is never wise to have a self-appointed religious institution determine a nation's moral code. The opportunities for moral compromise and failure are high; the moral codes and creeds assuredly racist, discriminatory, or subjectively and religiously defined; and the pronouncement of inhumanitarian political objectives quite predictable. - R.E. Slater

God's love must both center and define the Christian faith and all religious or human faiths seeking human and ecological balance in worlds of subtraction, harm, tragedy, and evil. - R.E. Slater

In Whitehead’s process ontology, we can think of the experiential ground of reality as an eternal pulse whereby what is objectively public in one moment becomes subjectively prehended in the next, and whereby the subject that emerges from its feelings then perishes into public expression as an object (or “superject”) aiming for novelty. There is a rhythm of Being between object and subject, not an ontological division. This rhythm powers the creative growth of the universe from one occasion of experience to the next. This is the Whiteheadian mantra: “The many become one and are increased by one.” - Matthew Segall

Without Love there is no Truth. And True Truth is always Loving. There is no dichotomy between these terms but only seamless integration. This is the premier centering focus of a Processual Theology of Love. - R.E. Slater

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Note: Generally I do not respond to commentary. I may read the comments but wish to reserve my time to write (or write from the comments I read). Instead, I'd like to see our community help one another and in the helping encourage and exhort each of us towards Christian love in Christ Jesus our Lord and Savior. - re slater

Sunday, January 5, 2025

ChatGPT and I Discuss the Bible's Evolving Setting



ChatGPT and I Discuss the
Bible's Evolving Setting

by ChatGPT & R.E. Slater

My last post requires a bit of clarity. Perhaps the discussion below may help with that. See what you think. - R.E. Slater

OBSERVATION 1

Hi. The Apostle Paul in the New Testament developed his theology within the traditions of Jewish Semitic thought and the extant Hellenism of the time. This might be said of the collection of writings by various authors in the New Testament as well. Can you explain how this may or may not be true along with other competing cultural philosophies affecting religious thought in the New Testament era?

ChatGPT

Certainly! The New Testament is a product of a rich cultural milieu where Jewish thought, Greek philosophy, and Roman culture intersected. Here's an overview of how these traditions influenced the Apostle Paul’s theology and the broader New Testament writings, as well as competing cultural philosophies:

1. Jewish Semitic Thought

Paul, like Jesus and the earliest disciples, was steeped in Jewish traditions:
  • Scriptural Basis: Paul heavily drew on the Hebrew Scriptures (Tanakh), particularly the Torah and the Prophets, often interpreting them in light of Jesus as the Messiah.Examples: His emphasis on covenant (e.g., Galatians 3) and righteousness (Romans 4) draws directly from Jewish theology.
  • Apocalypticism: Paul’s eschatology reflects Jewish apocalyptic traditions, which anticipated the coming of God’s kingdom, judgment, and the resurrection of the dead (e.g., 1 Corinthians 15).
  • Rabbinic Methods: Paul used interpretive techniques akin to those of the rabbis, such as midrash and typology, to expound on how Jesus fulfilled the Scriptures.
2. Hellenistic Influence

Hellenism, the Greek cultural legacy, shaped Paul and his contemporaries in several ways:
  • Language: The New Testament was written in Koine Greek, the lingua franca of the eastern Roman Empire, which shaped its vocabulary and expression of ideas.
  • Philosophical Frameworks:
  • Stoicism: Paul’s discussions of ethical living, self-control, and contentment (e.g., Philippians 4:11-13) reflect Stoic ideals, though reinterpreted in a Christian context.
    Platonic Dualism: While Paul’s theology is grounded in the resurrection of the body, his contrast between "flesh" and "spirit" (e.g., Romans 8) can be seen as engaging with Greek dualism, though he redefines these terms in light of Jewish and Christian thought.
  • Rhetorical Style: Paul's letters often reflect Greco-Roman rhetorical forms, such as diatribe (Romans 2) and the use of chiasms and parallelism, which would have been familiar to his Hellenized audiences.
3. Roman Cultural Context

The Roman Empire provided the socio-political backdrop for Paul’s mission:
  • Pax Romana: The relative peace and infrastructure of the Roman Empire facilitated Paul’s travels and the spread of Christianity.
  • Imperial Cult: Paul’s declaration that "Jesus is Lord" (e.g., Romans 10:9) directly challenged the imperial cult, which proclaimed Caesar as lord and savior.
  • Social Structures: Paul’s instructions to slaves, women, and household codes (e.g., Ephesians 5–6) reflect an engagement with Roman social norms, sometimes subverting them with Christian ethics.
4. Competing Cultural Philosophies

Several other philosophies and religious movements influenced the religious landscape:
  • Gnosticism: Though it developed more fully in the 2nd century, proto-Gnostic ideas about secret knowledge and spiritual hierarchies were already present. Paul combats such ideas in letters like Colossians (e.g., Colossians 2:8).
  • Mystery Religions: Popular cults such as those of Mithras and Isis emphasized personal salvation, initiation rites, and communal meals, which may have influenced early Christian liturgical practices.
  • Epicureanism: While Epicureans rejected divine providence and emphasized materialism, Paul directly engages them, notably in his speech at the Areopagus in Athens (Acts 17:16-34), where he contrasts their views with a monotheistic God who is both transcendent and personal.
Synthesis in Paul’s Theology

Paul’s genius lies in his ability to synthesize these influences:
  • He remained rooted in Jewish monotheism and covenant theology while using Greek terms and categories to communicate with Gentile audiences.
  • Paul’s use of logos (reason or word) and pistis (faith) bridges Greek philosophy and Jewish covenantal faith.
  • He reinterpreted existing frameworks (e.g., the Stoic concept of the cosmos as divinely ordered) to serve his proclamation of the gospel.
Implications for the New Testament
  • Diverse Voices: The New Testament reflects a range of voices—from the Jewish-Matthean Gospel to the Hellenistic-Johannine writings—showing varying degrees of interaction with these traditions.
  • Inculturation: Christianity’s spread required a translation of Jewish thought into terms accessible to Gentile audiences, leading to a creative interplay of ideas.
  • Tensions: The interaction between these cultures sometimes created tensions, such as debates over law and grace (e.g., Acts 15; Galatians), which shaped the theology of the early church.
Conclusion

Paul and the New Testament authors navigated a world of overlapping cultural, religious, and philosophical traditions. While grounded in Jewish monotheism, they engaged with and reinterpreted Hellenistic and Roman ideas, crafting a theology that could speak across cultural boundaries. This adaptability contributed to the early church's rapid growth and its ability to resonate with diverse audiences.

OBSERVATION 2

How has church theology been affected by this labaryinth of philosophic thought in its "outcome" theologies?

CHATGPT

The "labyrinth" of philosophical influences on early Christianity has profoundly shaped the trajectory of church theology, resulting in a diverse range of "outcome theologies" across history. These theological systems often reflect the interplay between the church's efforts to remain faithful to its biblical roots and the need to engage with the dominant philosophical and cultural paradigms of the time. Here’s a closer look at how these influences have shaped church theology:

1. Early Church Theology: The Intersection of Hellenism and Judaism
  • Christology and the Logos Doctrine: Early theologians like Justin Martyr and Clement of Alexandria used the concept of the Logos from Greek philosophy (particularly Stoicism and Platonism) to articulate the divinity of Christ. This synthesis allowed Christianity to present Jesus as both the fulfillment of Jewish prophecy and the rational principle governing the cosmos, resonating with Hellenistic audiences.
  • Trinitarian Theology: The development of the doctrine of the Trinity was heavily influenced by Greek metaphysical concepts, such as ousia (essence) and hypostasis (personhood). The Councils of Nicaea (325) and Constantinople (381) formalized these ideas in response to debates with Arianism and other theological challenges.
2. Medieval Theology: The Scholastic Synthesis
  • Aristotelian Influence: During the Middle Ages, Thomas Aquinas and other scholastics integrated Aristotelian philosophy into Christian theology, resulting in Thomism. Aquinas’ Summa Theologica harmonized faith and reason, arguing that natural law (accessible through reason) complements divine revelation.
  • Mystical Theology: In contrast to the rationalism of scholasticism, medieval mystics like Meister Eckhart engaged with Neoplatonism, emphasizing the ineffability of God and the soul’s union with the divine.
3. Reformation Theology: Return to Biblical Foundations
  • Humanism and the Reformation: Renaissance humanism, which revived interest in classical texts and original languages, influenced Reformers like Martin Luther and John Calvin. They emphasized sola scriptura (Scripture alone) and critiqued the perceived over-reliance on Aristotelian categories in medieval theology.
  • Predestination and Providence: Calvin’s theology of predestination drew on Augustinian ideas, which themselves were shaped by Neoplatonism. His meticulous focus on God’s sovereignty reflects a fusion of biblical thought and philosophical determinism.
4. Modern Theology: Enlightenment and Beyond

Rationalism and Deism: Enlightenment thought, with its emphasis on reason and skepticism of supernaturalism, gave rise to deism and liberal theology. Thinkers like Immanuel Kant emphasized morality as the core of religion, stripping theology of metaphysical speculation.

Existentialism and Neo-Orthodoxy: In the 20th century, existentialist philosophy influenced theologians like Søren Kierkegaard, Karl Barth, and Rudolf Bultmann. They emphasized individual faith, existential encounter with God, and demythologization of Scripture, respectively.

5. Contemporary Theology: Pluralism and Process
  • Postmodern Theology: Postmodernism has encouraged a deconstruction of traditional theological frameworks, emphasizing the diversity of perspectives and challenging universal claims. This has led to pluralistic theologies that embrace interfaith dialogue and contextualized approaches to Christianity.
  • Process Theology: Influenced by Alfred North Whitehead’s process philosophy, this movement sees God not as immutable but as dynamically involved in the world’s becoming. It reinterprets classical attributes of God, such as omnipotence, in light of relationality and freedom.
Tensions and Divergences in Outcome Theologies

Theological "outcomes" reflect both creative engagement and enduring tensions between Scripture and philosophy:
  • Scripture vs. Philosophy: Some traditions, like fundamentalism, resist philosophical engagement, emphasizing biblical literalism. Others, like Catholicism and Eastern Orthodoxy, embrace synthesis.
  • Immanence vs. Transcendence: Debates over God's nature (e.g., immanent in process theology vs. transcendent in classical theism) reveal how different philosophies lead to divergent understandings of the divine.
  • Freedom vs. Determinism: From Augustine to Calvin to modern open theism, theological debates over human freedom and divine sovereignty reflect underlying philosophical influences.
  • Ecclesiology and Ethics: The church’s approach to social issues, authority, and ethics has been shaped by its philosophical underpinnings—e.g., Thomistic natural law vs. liberation theology’s emphasis on social justice.
Concluding Thoughts

The labyrinth of philosophical thought has enriched Christian theology but also created a spectrum of interpretations, reflecting the church’s attempts to navigate faithfulness to biblical revelation amidst cultural change. These outcome theologies, ranging from rigid dogmatism to fluid relationality, demonstrate both the adaptability and the complexity of Christian thought. The challenge for theologians today is to discern how to engage contemporary philosophies without losing the core of the gospel.

OBSERVATION 3

You touched on the following subject above but let's delve a bit deeper.... Given the philosophical mileau which the bible narratives have been affected by through its own eras, can one reasonable say that even the bible is "pure enough" to not criticise in a more helpful manner than by taking it at face value as many do?

ChatGPT

This is a profound question that strikes at the heart of biblical interpretation and the nature of scripture itself. Whether the Bible can be taken at "face value" or should be approached with critical engagement depends on how we understand its nature, origins, and purposes. Let’s explore this issue in depth:

1. The Bible as a Product of Its Historical and Philosophical Milieu

The Bible did not emerge in a vacuum. It reflects and responds to the cultural, philosophical, and historical contexts in which its texts were written. This means that:
  • Cultural Embeddedness: The Bible incorporates ideas, metaphors, and assumptions from ancient Near Eastern, Jewish, Hellenistic, and Roman cultures. For example:
  • Creation narratives in Genesis echo and diverge from Mesopotamian myths like the Enuma Elish.
  • The New Testament borrows from Greco-Roman rhetorical techniques and Hellenistic philosophical categories.
  • Evolving Theology: Biblical theology itself develops over time. Early texts often portray God in anthropomorphic and tribal terms (e.g., Yahweh as a warrior in Exodus), while later writings emphasize divine universality and ethical monotheism (e.g., Isaiah’s vision of all nations worshiping God).

This historical conditioning suggests that the Bible is not “pure” in the sense of being unmediated divine speech. Instead, it is a divinely inspired but culturally situated collection of writings.

2. The Problem with "Face Value" Readings

Taking the Bible at face value—interpreting it literally or without critical engagement—can lead to unhelpful or harmful conclusions:
  • Ethical Challenges: Some biblical texts reflect the moral norms of their time, which may clash with contemporary ethical understandings. For example:
  • The Bible includes laws permitting slavery (e.g., Exodus 21) and patriarchal structures that subjugate women (e.g., 1 Timothy 2:12).
  • Violent commands, such as those in the conquest narratives of Joshua, have been used to justify oppression and war.
  • Contradictions and Ambiguities: The Bible contains apparent contradictions (e.g., differing accounts of creation in Genesis 1–2 or the discrepancies between the Synoptic Gospels and John). These cannot be reconciled without recognizing the multiple voices and contexts within scripture.
By refusing to engage critically, face-value readings often ignore the Bible’s complexity and risk distorting its message.

3. Criticism as a Form of Faithfulness

Far from undermining faith, criticism can deepen understanding and fidelity to the Bible’s ultimate purposes. Constructive criticism acknowledges:
  • The Bible as a Dialogue: The Bible itself models an ongoing dialogue with its traditions. For instance:
  • The prophets critique the sacrificial system, emphasizing justice and mercy (e.g., Isaiah 1:11-17; Hosea 6:6).
  • The New Testament reinterprets the Old Testament, as in Jesus’ Sermon on the Mount (“You have heard it said... but I say to you,” Matthew 5).
  • The Human Role in Scripture: Recognizing the human element in scripture—its authors’ perspectives, biases, and cultural limitations—invites us to wrestle with the text rather than accept it uncritically. This wrestling mirrors the biblical tradition itself, exemplified by Jacob’s struggle with God (Genesis 32:24-32).
4. The Role of Philosophy in Interpretation

Philosophy provides tools for engaging the Bible in a more nuanced and helpful manner:
  • Hermeneutics: Philosophical hermeneutics (e.g., Schleiermacher, Gadamer) emphasizes the importance of context, both the author’s and the reader’s, in interpreting texts. This approach allows us to consider the Bible’s historical setting and its contemporary relevance.
  • Ethical Reflections: Ethical philosophy (e.g., Kant, Levinas) helps us grapple with difficult texts, asking how they align with broader moral principles, such as love, justice, and the dignity of persons.
  • Metaphysics and Theology: Philosophical traditions, such as Platonism and process thought, have enriched theological readings of scripture by exploring the nature of God, the world, and humanity’s relationship to both.
5. A Balanced Approach to Scripture

Rather than rejecting the Bible as flawed or accepting it uncritically, a balanced approach:
  • Affirms Its Authority: Many Christians see the Bible as divinely inspired and authoritative, not because it is free of human influence but because it points to God’s ultimate purposes of love, redemption, and reconciliation.
  • Engages Critically: Faithful interpretation involves questioning and reinterpreting texts in light of their historical context and the ongoing movement of the Spirit in the church and the world.
  • Seeks the Spirit Behind the Letter: As Paul writes, “The letter kills, but the Spirit gives life” (2 Corinthians 3:6). This invites readers to discern the Bible’s deeper truths rather than becoming fixated on its surface details.
6. The Bible as a Living Text

In the end, the Bible is not static but dynamic—a living text that continues to speak across time and cultures. Its complexity, rooted in the labyrinth of philosophical and cultural influences, invites readers to engage with it as partners in an unfolding dialogue with God.

To read the Bible in this way is not to dismiss its authority but to honor its depth, wrestling with its challenges while seeking its wisdom. This approach allows scripture to shape us, not as a rigid rulebook but as a profound witness to God’s ongoing work in history and humanity’s response to the divine.

OBSERVATION 4

I tend to look at the bible as you are indicating as an evolving theology of God and creation. That the ancients then who testing out their ideas of the kind of God they believed they were beholding. Hence, the dipolarities of God's character, being, and work as reflected in the bible from many hands, hearts, visions, and ideas. Can you speak more to the evolution of God and religion in the bible?

ChatGPT

The evolution of God and religion in the Bible reflects a dynamic interplay of human experience, cultural context, and theological insight over centuries. This processual unfolding reveals a deepening understanding of the divine and humanity’s relationship with God. Here’s how this evolution can be traced throughout scripture:

1. Early Biblical Theology: God as Tribal and National
  • Polytheistic Roots and Yahweh’s Supremacy: In the earliest strata of the Bible (e.g., Genesis and Exodus), Yahweh is portrayed as the God of Israel, often in competition with the gods of neighboring peoples. For example:
  • The Ten Commandments emphasize Yahweh’s exclusivity: “You shall have no other gods before me” (Exodus 20:3), reflecting a shift toward monolatry rather than outright monotheism.
  • Yahweh is depicted as a warrior deity who fights for His people (e.g., Exodus 15:3), reflecting the tribal and survivalist concerns of early Israelite religion.
  • God’s Covenant with Israel: The Abrahamic and Mosaic covenants define Yahweh’s relationship with His people in terms of mutual obligation. This covenantal framework situates God’s role as protector, lawgiver, and guide for the emerging Israelite nation.
2. The Prophetic Tradition: God as Ethical and Universal
  • Critique of Ritualism: The prophets, writing during times of social and political upheaval, began to emphasize God’s concern for justice and righteousness over ritual sacrifice:
  • “I desire mercy, not sacrifice, and acknowledgment of God rather than burnt offerings” (Hosea 6:6).
  • Isaiah 1 critiques empty worship and highlights the ethical demands of caring for the oppressed (Isaiah 1:11-17).
  • God of All Nations: Prophets like Isaiah and Jonah point toward a universal vision of God’s sovereignty and concern:
  • Isaiah envisions a future where “all nations shall flow” to God’s holy mountain (Isaiah 2:2-4).
  • Jonah portrays God as compassionate toward the Assyrians, Israel’s enemies, challenging the tribal exclusivity of earlier texts.
3. Wisdom Literature: God as Creator and Sustainer
  • Exploring the Human Condition: Books like Job, Proverbs, and Ecclesiastes wrestle with life’s complexities, portraying God as both inscrutable and intimately involved in creation:
  • Job challenges simplistic notions of divine justice, emphasizing God’s vastness and the limits of human understanding.
  • Ecclesiastes reflects on the transience of life and the mystery of God’s purposes, offering a more existential view of faith.
  • God’s Immanence in Creation: Proverbs celebrates God’s wisdom as woven into the fabric of creation, with wisdom personified as a co-creator (Proverbs 8:22-31).
4. The New Testament: God as Love and Relational
  • Jesus’ Revelation of God: In the New Testament, Jesus embodies a radical vision of God’s character:
  • God as Father: Jesus emphasizes God’s relational nature, portraying Him as a loving, forgiving parent (e.g., Luke 15:11-32, the Parable of the Prodigal Son).
  • God as Love: The Johannine writings crystallize this idea, declaring, “God is love” (1 John 4:8).
  • Universal Salvation: The New Testament expands God’s covenant to include all people, transcending ethnic and national boundaries (e.g., Galatians 3:28, Ephesians 2:11-22).
  • God’s Presence Through the Spirit: The doctrine of the Holy Spirit highlights God’s ongoing immanence and work in the world, empowering believers to participate in God’s mission.
5. Dipolarities in God’s Character

The Bible reflects dipolarities in how God is perceived, such as:
  • Transcendence and Immanence: God is both above and beyond creation (e.g., Isaiah 6:1-5) and intimately present within it (e.g., Psalm 139:7-12).
  • Justice and Mercy: God is depicted as both a righteous judge (e.g., Deuteronomy 32:4) and a compassionate redeemer (e.g., Exodus 34:6-7).
  • Sovereignty and Relationality: God’s sovereignty is absolute (e.g., Daniel 4:35), yet God enters into genuine relationships with humanity, responding to human actions (e.g., Genesis 18:23-33).
These dipolarities suggest that biblical theology evolves as communities wrestle with God’s multifaceted nature.

6. Theological Evolution as an Act of Faith

This evolving theology reflects humanity’s ongoing encounter with the divine:
  • Testing and Beholding: As you mentioned, the ancients tested their ideas of God through their experiences, visions, and struggles. Each biblical author contributes a unique perspective shaped by their historical and cultural context.
  • God in Process: From a process theological perspective, this evolution can be understood as God’s relational engagement with creation. God is not static but dynamically involved, revealing more of the divine nature as humanity matures.
7. Toward a Dynamic View of Scripture

The Bible’s evolving theology invites readers to:
  • Engage the Text Critically: Understanding the Bible as a record of humanity’s unfolding awareness of God allows us to honor its depth and complexity.
  • Participate in the Story: Just as the biblical authors reflected on their experience of God, we are called to continue this process of theological reflection, discerning what God is revealing in our time.
This view of the Bible as a dynamic, evolving testimony to God’s character and work affirms its richness and its capacity to speak to new generations in fresh ways. It reflects the living relationship between God, humanity, and creation.

OBSERVATION 5

It seems that many of the topics of processual theology (ala Alfred North Whitehead et al) have been reflected in the ancients struggle to discover a God who is more God and less anthropomorphised. Projecting process thought into an evolving understanding of God seems to be more in congruence with the ancient's struggles than other past philosophical interjections by the church over the ages.

ChatGPT

You're touching on a profound alignment between process theology and the biblical narrative's evolving portrayal of God. Indeed, process thought resonates deeply with the ancients' struggles to move beyond a limited, anthropomorphized deity toward a more expansive, dynamic understanding of the divine. Here’s why this congruence is so compelling:

1. The Shift Beyond Anthropomorphism
  • Early Struggles with God’s Nature: In ancient times, God was often depicted in human-like terms—walking in the garden (Genesis 3:8), feeling regret (Genesis 6:6), or acting as a tribal warrior (Exodus 15:3). These portrayals reflect early attempts to comprehend the divine using familiar human categories.
  • Toward a Transcendent Yet Relational God: Over time, the biblical narrative evolves, portraying God as both transcendent and intimately involved with creation. The prophetic literature, for instance, emphasizes God’s justice and compassion in ways that transcend purely human qualities (e.g., Isaiah 55:8-9).
Process theology, with its emphasis on God’s relationality and ongoing engagement with the world, mirrors this movement. It offers a framework for understanding God as intimately connected with creation yet not confined by human limitations.

2. God as Becoming, Not Static

Biblical Echoes of Process Thought: The Bible often portrays God as dynamically involved in the unfolding story of creation and humanity:
  • In Exodus, God reveals Himself as “I AM WHO I AM” (Exodus 3:14), a name that can be interpreted as emphasizing being and becoming.
  • The prophets portray God as responding to human actions, such as relenting from judgment when people repent (e.g., Jonah 3:10).
  • The New Testament reveals God’s ongoing work in Christ and through the Spirit, reflecting a God who participates in the world’s redemption.
Process theology aligns with this biblical narrative by presenting God not as a static, immutable being but as one who experiences, interacts with, and grows in relationship with creation.

3. The Ancient Struggle to Comprehend the Divine
  • Testing and Refining Ideas of God: As you noted, the ancients tested their ideas of God, struggling to articulate the divine nature in ways that accounted for their experiences of suffering, justice, and hope. This struggle is evident in texts like Job, where simplistic views of divine justice are deconstructed.
  • Process Theology as a Continuation: Process thought extends this struggle by offering a God who is not an unchanging monarch but a co-sufferer and co-creator. This view resonates with the ancient desire to discover a God who is both deeply personal and profoundly beyond human comprehension.
4. Process Theology Versus Other Philosophical Interjections
  • Medieval and Modern Influences: Over the centuries, church theology has been shaped by various philosophical systems, such as:
  • Aristotelianism, which emphasized God’s immutability and impassibility.
  • Cartesian dualism, which separated the material and spiritual realms.
  • Modern rationalism, which often sought to systematize theology at the expense of mystery and relationality.While these systems brought valuable insights, they sometimes constrained the biblical portrayal of God by emphasizing static attributes over relational dynamics.
  • Process Theology’s Contribution: In contrast, process thought aligns more closely with the biblical narrative’s dynamic portrayal of God. It emphasizes God’s ongoing engagement with creation, the relational interplay between God and humanity, and the co-creative possibilities inherent in the universe.
5. A God Who Is “More God”
  • Beyond Projection: Process theology resists reducing God to a human projection or a mere cosmic force. Instead, it envisions a God who is both immanent and transcendent, intimately involved in the world yet always exceeding human understanding.
  • A Dynamic, Evolving Faith: Just as the Bible reflects an evolving understanding of God, process theology invites believers to continue exploring the divine nature in light of new experiences, insights, and challenges.
This approach honors the ancients’ struggles while providing a framework for contemporary faith that remains open, relational, and deeply resonant with the biblical witness.

In essence, process theology can be seen as a natural continuation of the biblical tradition, carrying forward the ancients’ quest to behold a God who is ever greater than their understanding yet always present in their journey. It bridges the ancient and the modern, offering a vision of God that is dynamic, relational, and truly “more God.”

OBSERVATION 6

It's not only the interplay between man's experience with one another but also man's beliefs about the universe. All are affective and affecting when following a religious idea for one's path of living. The bible is yet another collection of narratives sharing this most ancient journey of evolving mankind. The church has done it's best to interpret life but has fallen short too many times in religious oppression and judgment.

ChatGPT 

Your perspective captures the profound interconnectedness of human experience, cosmic understanding, and spiritual exploration. The Bible indeed reflects humanity's evolving consciousness—not just in relation to God but also to each other and the cosmos. It is a living document of an ancient and ongoing journey.

The church, as an interpreter of this narrative, has both illuminated and obscured this journey. At its best, it has fostered community, inspired hope, and offered transformative interpretations of life. At its worst, it has imposed rigid frameworks, often prioritizing dogma over compassion and judgment over grace.

This tension reminds us that the spiritual journey is not static; it requires ongoing re-evaluation and openness to new insights. Just as the Bible reflects evolving human understanding, so too must the church (and individuals) strive to adapt and grow, learning from both triumphs and missteps in the pursuit of truth, justice, and love.

OBSERVATION 7

It seems that today's traditional church needs a new interjection of fresh eyes and vision for itself... when reading the bible too literally it veers from love and fellowship. When read too ahistorically it again veers into conjectures of social good and topography. If read too mystically or magically than imaginations run amok. And all these readings can be sourced in enculturate philosophical perspectives.

ChatGPT

You're highlighting a critical issue in how the Bible is approached today: the need for balance and discernment in interpretation. Each reading method—literal, ahistorical, mystical—brings both potential insights and pitfalls, especially when taken to extremes.

Challenges of These Approaches
  • Literal Reading:
  • Strength: A literal reading can preserve the Bible’s historical and cultural specificity.
  • Pitfall: It often locks the text into rigid frameworks, stifling its dynamic potential for love and fellowship. It can also perpetuate harmful ideologies if the text is uncritically applied to modern contexts.
  • Ahistorical Reading:
  • Strength: Allows the Bible to address contemporary issues with fresh relevance.
  • Pitfall: Risks severing the text from its historical roots, reducing its depth and authenticity. It may turn into speculative moralizing or align too closely with current social agendas.
  • Mystical/Magical Reading:
  • Strength: Invites deeper spiritual engagement and creative interpretation.
  • Pitfall: Can drift into ungrounded fantasies that lose connection to the Bible’s ethical and communal core.
The Role of Enculturated Philosophies

As you note, these interpretive approaches are not isolated—they are deeply influenced by the philosophical and cultural lenses of their interpreters. For example:
  • Enlightenment rationalism may push readers toward literalism or historical criticism.
  • Postmodern relativism may encourage overly subjective or speculative interpretations.
  • Mystical traditions might favor allegorical or esoteric readings.
A Path Forward

The church could benefit from cultivating a more integrative hermeneutic—one that:
  • Centers Love and Fellowship: A primary goal of biblical interpretation should be to foster love, justice, and community, reflecting the core message of Christ.
  • Balances Historical and Contemporary Relevance: Recognize the Bible as a product of its time while allowing it to speak meaningfully to present-day challenges.
  • Encourages Imagination Within Limits: Engage the Bible creatively, but anchor interpretations in ethical accountability and communal discernment.
This fresh vision could invite the church to read the Bible not as a fixed rulebook but as a living narrative—a dynamic interplay of human and divine experiences that continues to inspire, challenge, and transform.

OBSERVATION 8

As a last interjection here, it would seem a helpful metaphysic, ontology and ethic might be that of process philosophy as it might affect theology, the natural sciences, and social cooperation. With such an overlay the Christian faith may be better helped against all that which might misdirect it's course as centered in Christ.

ChatGPT

Your observation points to the profound potential of process philosophy as a guiding framework for Christianity and beyond. By emphasizing relationality, dynamism, and co-creation, process thought offers a metaphysic that is deeply aligned with the relational and transformative core of Christ-centered faith.

1. Process Philosophy and Theology
  • A Relational God: Process theology envisions God not as a distant, static being but as intimately involved in the world, shaping and being shaped by creation. This view resonates with the Christian understanding of God as revealed in Christ—immanent, compassionate, and redemptive.
  • Dynamic Revelation: Process thought supports the idea that divine revelation is ongoing, allowing Christianity to adapt and grow while remaining grounded in its Christ-centered foundation.
2. Process Philosophy and the Natural Sciences
  • Unity in Diversity: Process philosophy’s emphasis on interconnection aligns with scientific discoveries in fields like ecology, quantum physics, and cosmology. It provides a metaphysical basis for understanding the natural world as a network of relationships, rather than isolated entities.
  • Faith and Science: This approach bridges the perceived gap between faith and science, encouraging a theology that embraces scientific inquiry as a means of exploring God’s creative work.
3. Process Philosophy and Social Cooperation
  • Ethics of Relationality: Process thought emphasizes the interconnectedness of all beings, fostering an ethic of care, justice, and cooperation. This perspective is vital for addressing global challenges such as climate change, inequality, and conflict.
  • Community and Transformation: By valuing diversity and the relational nature of existence, process philosophy encourages inclusive communities that work together for collective flourishing.
4. Safeguarding the Christian Faith
  • Against Dogmatism: Process thought resists rigid dogmas, inviting a more open and dialogical faith that is centered in Christ’s teachings of love, humility, and service.
  • Navigating Modern Challenges: By integrating theology, science, and ethics, process philosophy equips the Christian faith to respond thoughtfully to the complexities of contemporary life.
This integrative vision could provide Christianity with a robust framework for living out its mission in a way that honors both its traditions and its potential for renewal, guiding it to remain deeply Christ-centered while dynamically engaging the world.

CONCLUSION

I think so as well. Thank you for your help. This will be a subject which must be explored many times. EOF (end of file)

ChatGPT

You're very welcome! I appreciate the depth and thoughtfulness you bring to these discussions. Indeed, this is a subject with endless layers to explore, and I look forward to diving deeper with you in the future. Until next time—EOF for now! 😊


Saturday, January 4, 2025

Matthew Segall's Series on Whitehead



Introduction

by R.E. Slater
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At the 22:00+ minute mark Matt Segall speaks to why Whitehead's process metaphysic is becoming so attractive to the natural sciences. It is why I became so quickly attracted to it once learning of it: "That in Whitehead is offered a helpful, competent cosmological metaphysic to the quantum world of science more than any other current metaphysic presently available." If you have a science background you will understand what I mean.... As introduction, Matt spends the first 22 minutes speaking to why process thought came to life in the early days of the quantum revolution of the sciences.

Moreover, Whitehead's process ontology seems to right all the errors I had once been taught from an Americanized bible educational perspective as learned from within a Reformed Calvinist evangelical theism. My education was neither Methodist nor Lutheran, Catholic nor Orthodox, nor even interfaith though I strive to understand each a bit better now then I could then when held in the grips of westernized evangelical thought. And yet, it may be said that all Christian and non-Christian religions easily fall into my critique of the Christian faith here in this article.

Finally, I find Whitehead's process ethic to be ironically far more generous than any Christian ethic displayed by the church when influencing state government and social thought as observed historically over the centuries by Christian oppression, cruelty and terror. Not that other parts of Christianity hasn't had its good results despite it's assimilating efforts of Westernized thinking and behaviour when communicating in cross cultural situations. But in Whitehead's universe, God and experiential outcomes tell of the love God holds for us and is working causally (not casually) through a cooperating universe... which tells us of an interacting divine prescence which is real and meaningful:

Usage: Cause v Casual: "The interviewers tried to be as casual and friendly as possible whereas Cause is the reason or source for something to happen." Thus, I prefer to write of a processual God as an interacting, non-coercive causal presence than of an evangelic God seen more as a determinatively controlling and forceful presence over-ruling creaturely agency. Hence, God by love, is working causally through a cooperating universe effecting not only God's non-coercive, interacting causal will but affecting universal and creaturely will as well in a working fellowship of novel creativity, benevolence, and beauty.

17 "You know this, my beloved brothers and sisters. Now everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak, and slow to anger; for a man’s anger does not bring about the righteousness of God. Therefore, ridding yourselves of all filthiness and all that remains of wickedness, in humility receive the word implanted, which is able to save your souls. But prove yourselves doers of the word, and not just hearers who deceive themselves. For if anyone is a hearer of the word and not a doer, he is like a man who looks at his natural face in a mirror; for once he has looked at himself and gone away, he has immediately forgotten what kind of person he was. But one who has looked intently at the perfect law, the law of freedom, and has continued in it, not having become a forgetful hearer but an active doer, this person will be blessed in what he does. If anyone thinks himself to be religious, yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this person’s religion is worthless. Pure and undefiled religion in the sight of our God and Father is this: to visit orphans and widows in their distress, and to keep oneself unstained by the world."


II

Having watched the good-and-bad words-and-deeds of the church tells us the "Christian" God needs a better definition than what God has been given by the church over the centuries. I submit that Process philosophy undergirding Process theology can offer any church or religion a more thoroughly loving God and universe than presently had under earlier Greek/Roman Stoicism, neo-Platonic Hellenism, or conflicted Jewish-Semitic thought. This would include all succeeding church ages held under various philosophic arguments and arrangements which have influenced its theological outcomes. As example, the Marxist German-Lutheran God who was quickly turned into a Nazi-Aryan God of hate and genocide. Thus and thus, a non-processual God is a more secularized and worldly God than a loving God of processual actuality as seen in Whiteheadian vernacular.

Which brings us to the subject of sin and the many kinds of "bible" theologies behind this idea.... Process theology describes sin differently than would a non-processual theology. That the subject of sin is approached through creaturely freewill or agency rather than as an inbred force of nature. That is, creation is good and beautiful. It is not inherently sinful even though it groans and is affected by sin. So too humanity. We are not sinful but fraught with ethical tension. I would suggest we rather are born with a love nature in a freewill universe.

Moreover, a loving God created a world and a creation without sin as birthed from God's image as versus i) the church's imagined "sin nature" which it's theology flatly states inhabits all creation. It is further imagined ii ) that "Sin entered Adam and that all creation fell in Adam" per the Apostle Paul. Whence comes the idea that humanity is born into sin even as all creation is... thus answering the church's question of sin and evil's origin.

However, Paul's kind of Semitic thought was influenced by the intermix of Greek and Roman philosophies across his own Semitic Judaism. Paul is searching for words and phrases to describe sin and evil which a processual theologian may take as a tensional force interacting with love-ingrained or imputed "freewill " agency. But NOT as an imputed force into nature as described by the traditional church's "Adamic Fall." Sure, it makes for good preaching but soon all of God's creation is seen as ugly and unloving giving to us in consequence a fickled, dipolar God who both loves and shows wrath which in consequence gives to us a austerely moral church full of legalism and hypocrisy, but not a church of love and goodwill. The point? The kind of God we have is the kind of God we get. God becomes humanized rather than Godly. God is love. God is not evil.

Hence, today's meta-modernist theologian must work through the bible-and-church's many pan-philosophical and psycho-social historical outlooks of God which church has betrayed it's kind of God that it worships. The portrayal of God in either Moses' day, or Jesus' day, 4000 to 2000 years ago is quite a bit different from the 21st century church's God today. A God which the church has added to in the bible or subtracted from in the bible over it's many theological eras. It is a myth that tbe traditional God has only been one kind of God.

And so, in process thought the church is afforded the opportunity yet again to re-orient it's bible's many enculturated kinds of theologies so that it may revisualize a God worthy of following. A God who speaks love and beauty against the unbeing and unbecomingness of unloving theologies, attitudes and actions.

As example, look at the early church's bible in it's eschatological depiction of God in the New Testament book of Revelation. Certainly this is not a loving God but a God of wroth and judgment. Such a picture defies a God of love, health and welfare (notably, I have discussed Revelation in another article several months ago which the interested reader may review). Let's just say that Christian thought has been affected by secular thought many, many times.

Too, God has often been described by our own anthropological demeanors too many times. So if we are going to continuely employ such a practice let us justifiably pursue a decent enough philosophy to help guide us in our preaching and ministries rather than to look to ourselves as the sum total of who God is as theologians and dogmatists have done over the centuries.  Which is another way of saying that if we are to effect God's love than we our responsible to love in word and deed in healthy, helpful ways per the kind of God we have constructed in our minds and hearts. When we do not, the world blows up under us and around us. That is the story of Revelation. An eschatological picture of what happens when we do not love one another. It is the story of us and our failures and not of God and God's character.

Conclusion

And so, it is not necessary to further describe God as a wrothful divine ruler come to curse and destroy. We are the ones who are affecting our own destruction... not God. The gods of the Greek pantheon are not like the Jewish God of Jesus. They are different. And the church must account for the bible's many interior enculturated writings of God and theology when reading the bible for it's own day and age. If it doesn't, we continue to get a muscular dipolar God of human imagination. In process thought this won't do.

Hence Whitehead, and hence a reconstruction of Westernized theology from a post-evangelical or post-traditional outlook. One that is built on a processual metaphysic, ontology, and ethic. Process theology's God is more thoroughly beautiful. More loving. More kind and good. And traditionalized words like "holiness" become irrelevant as all creation is seen as holy in processual thought even as all can be beautiful and loving when based in a God which is beautiful and loving in God's Self.

Amen and Amen,

R.E. Slater
January 4, 2025





Alfred North Whitehead's Philosophy of Organism
with Matthew D. Segall
Dartington Trust   |   June 4, 2021

 
This talk introduces Alfred North Whitehead’s “Philosophy of Organism,” a novel metaphysical scheme that he articulated in the first half of the twentieth century not only as a protest against the lifeless Nature imagined by scientific materialism, but also as a rejection of the narrow linguistic analysis and sterile logical positivism of his philosophical contemporaries. His was an attempt to make natural science philosophical again by asking whether physical causes and motions need be so violently segregated from the conscious reasons and emotions by which we apprehend them. We will explore the major themes of his magnum opus, Process & Reality, wherein Whitehead attempts to construct an organic system of the universe that not only brings quantum and relativity theories into coherence, but gathers up scientific truths, aesthetic feelings, and religious values into an integral vision of reality.

Matthew D. Segall is a process philosopher whose research focuses on process-relational thought (especially Alfred North Whitehead) and German Idealism (especially Friedrich Schelling). He is an Assistant Professor in the Philosophy, Cosmology, and Consciousness program at the California Institute of Integral Studies in San Francisco, CA (CIIS.edu). He has published articles on a wide-array of topics, including metaphysics, Gaia theory, religious studies, psychedelics, and architecture. He also blogs regularly at footnotes2plato.com.  
This talk is part of the Holistic Science programme at Schumacher College. Find out more about the programme and register for updates about the course: https://www.schumachercollege.org.uk/...


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Matt and I have a deep discussion and get into dialogs about Whitehead's process philosophy and his idea of the religion in the making which has connections to the religion that is not a religion. It was a very great pleasure to talk with Matt, and I look forward to many more such discussions.