Quotes & Sayings


We, and creation itself, actualize the possibilities of the God who sustains the world, towards becoming in the world in a fuller, more deeper way. - R.E. Slater

There is urgency in coming to see the world as a web of interrelated processes of which we are integral parts, so that all of our choices and actions have [consequential effects upon] the world around us. - Process Metaphysician Alfred North Whitehead

Kurt Gödel's Incompleteness Theorem says (i) all closed systems are unprovable within themselves and, that (ii) all open systems are rightly understood as incomplete. - R.E. Slater

The most true thing about you is what God has said to you in Christ, "You are My Beloved." - Tripp Fuller

The God among us is the God who refuses to be God without us, so great is God's Love. - Tripp Fuller

According to some Christian outlooks we were made for another world. Perhaps, rather, we were made for this world to recreate, reclaim, redeem, and renew unto God's future aspiration by the power of His Spirit. - R.E. Slater

Our eschatological ethos is to love. To stand with those who are oppressed. To stand against those who are oppressing. It is that simple. Love is our only calling and Christian Hope. - R.E. Slater

Secularization theory has been massively falsified. We don't live in an age of secularity. We live in an age of explosive, pervasive religiosity... an age of religious pluralism. - Peter L. Berger

Exploring the edge of life and faith in a post-everything world. - Todd Littleton

I don't need another reason to believe, your love is all around for me to see. – Anon

Thou art our need; and in giving us more of thyself thou givest us all. - Khalil Gibran, Prayer XXIII

Be careful what you pretend to be. You become what you pretend to be. - Kurt Vonnegut

Religious beliefs, far from being primary, are often shaped and adjusted by our social goals. - Jim Forest

We become who we are by what we believe and can justify. - R.E. Slater

People, even more than things, need to be restored, renewed, revived, reclaimed, and redeemed; never throw out anyone. – Anon

Certainly, God's love has made fools of us all. - R.E. Slater

An apocalyptic Christian faith doesn't wait for Jesus to come, but for Jesus to become in our midst. - R.E. Slater

Christian belief in God begins with the cross and resurrection of Jesus, not with rational apologetics. - Eberhard Jüngel, Jürgen Moltmann

Our knowledge of God is through the 'I-Thou' encounter, not in finding God at the end of a syllogism or argument. There is a grave danger in any Christian treatment of God as an object. The God of Jesus Christ and Scripture is irreducibly subject and never made as an object, a force, a power, or a principle that can be manipulated. - Emil Brunner

“Ehyeh Asher Ehyeh” means "I will be that who I have yet to become." - God (Ex 3.14) or, conversely, “I AM who I AM Becoming.”

Our job is to love others without stopping to inquire whether or not they are worthy. - Thomas Merton

The church is God's world-changing social experiment of bringing unlikes and differents to the Eucharist/Communion table to share life with one another as a new kind of family. When this happens, we show to the world what love, justice, peace, reconciliation, and life together is designed by God to be. The church is God's show-and-tell for the world to see how God wants us to live as a blended, global, polypluralistic family united with one will, by one Lord, and baptized by one Spirit. – Anon

The cross that is planted at the heart of the history of the world cannot be uprooted. - Jacques Ellul

The Unity in whose loving presence the universe unfolds is inside each person as a call to welcome the stranger, protect animals and the earth, respect the dignity of each person, think new thoughts, and help bring about ecological civilizations. - John Cobb & Farhan A. Shah

If you board the wrong train it is of no use running along the corridors of the train in the other direction. - Dietrich Bonhoeffer

God's justice is restorative rather than punitive; His discipline is merciful rather than punishing; His power is made perfect in weakness; and His grace is sufficient for all. – Anon

Our little [biblical] systems have their day; they have their day and cease to be. They are but broken lights of Thee, and Thou, O God art more than they. - Alfred Lord Tennyson

We can’t control God; God is uncontrollable. God can’t control us; God’s love is uncontrolling! - Thomas Jay Oord

Life in perspective but always in process... as we are relational beings in process to one another, so life events are in process in relation to each event... as God is to Self, is to world, is to us... like Father, like sons and daughters, like events... life in process yet always in perspective. - R.E. Slater

To promote societal transition to sustainable ways of living and a global society founded on a shared ethical framework which includes respect and care for the community of life, ecological integrity, universal human rights, respect for diversity, economic justice, democracy, and a culture of peace. - The Earth Charter Mission Statement

Christian humanism is the belief that human freedom, individual conscience, and unencumbered rational inquiry are compatible with the practice of Christianity or even intrinsic in its doctrine. It represents a philosophical union of Christian faith and classical humanist principles. - Scott Postma

It is never wise to have a self-appointed religious institution determine a nation's moral code. The opportunities for moral compromise and failure are high; the moral codes and creeds assuredly racist, discriminatory, or subjectively and religiously defined; and the pronouncement of inhumanitarian political objectives quite predictable. - R.E. Slater

God's love must both center and define the Christian faith and all religious or human faiths seeking human and ecological balance in worlds of subtraction, harm, tragedy, and evil. - R.E. Slater

In Whitehead’s process ontology, we can think of the experiential ground of reality as an eternal pulse whereby what is objectively public in one moment becomes subjectively prehended in the next, and whereby the subject that emerges from its feelings then perishes into public expression as an object (or “superject”) aiming for novelty. There is a rhythm of Being between object and subject, not an ontological division. This rhythm powers the creative growth of the universe from one occasion of experience to the next. This is the Whiteheadian mantra: “The many become one and are increased by one.” - Matthew Segall

Without Love there is no Truth. And True Truth is always Loving. There is no dichotomy between these terms but only seamless integration. This is the premier centering focus of a Processual Theology of Love. - R.E. Slater

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Note: Generally I do not respond to commentary. I may read the comments but wish to reserve my time to write (or write from the comments I read). Instead, I'd like to see our community help one another and in the helping encourage and exhort each of us towards Christian love in Christ Jesus our Lord and Savior. - re slater

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Saturday, September 10, 2022

Brian McLaren - A Series on "Do I Stay Christian?" for Small Groups


Brian McLaren - A Series on "Do I Stay
Christian?" for Small Groups

amazon link



"Do I Stay Christian?" - a reading group with Brian McLaren

Brian D. McLaren giving an invite to reading his new book with him in an upcoming Homebrewed Christianity online reading group. Sign-up now and get a three-part video guide to the book & plan to spend four weeks with us going through the book. http://doistaychristian.com

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Begin Again Podcast: Brian McLaren, Author of Do I Stay Christian?
Streamed live on Apr 5, 2022

Brian McLaren (http://brianmclaren.net) is the author of an upcoming book entitled, "Do I Stay Christian?" The book is broken up into three parts: No, Yes and How. It gives an honest look at the reasons why someone might want to leave Christianity, reasons why someone might want to stay, and some perspectives on how someone might choose to stay. So here is an interview about "Do I Stay Christian?" Enjoy! John Chaffee (http://johnchaffee.com) is a NJ native with 20 years of professional ministry background and two masters degrees turned professor/writer/holy fool. You can join his weekly email list by signing up at his website.


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Do I Stay Christian?: A Guide for the Doubters,
the Disappointed, and the Disillusioned Hardcover

by Brian D. McLaren (Author)


I remember the first time I considered the possibility that I might not stay Christian. I was somewhere around twelve years old, and I realized that my church (which I had been taught was the best, most "biblical" version of Christianity on earth) did not accept the theory of evolution. Since evolution made obvious sense to me -- especially after reading several literal six-day creation books that my parents gave me -- I thought, "OK. A few more years and I'll turn 18 and I'll be done with this religion for good."

Two things got in the way of my exit from church. First, a fellow a few years older than me invited me to a Bible study group where I met young Christians who thought that Christians could believe in evolution, read philosophy, and . Second, I had a powerful spiritual experience that made it harder for me to leave.

But even so, my spiritual life has been restless. I have struggled with Christian identity constantly. Perhaps people could sense this, which would explain why so many people have "come out" to me over the years as thinking about leaving Christian identity. Significant numbers of them have been clergy; when they work "behind the curtain," they see things that make it harder and harder to stay.

In 2021, my book "Faith After Doubt" came out. I synthesized the work of a number of researchers and theorists to present a four-stage model of spiritual growth: Simplicity (dualistic, oriented around authority figures), Complexity (pragmatic, oriented around accumulating knowledge and skills), Perplexity (skeptical, relativistic, oriented around critical thinking regarding one's own in-group), and Harmony (integrating previous stages in a compassionate understanding of human development). As I developed that four-stage model, I realized that most of the people who were leaving Christianity were entering Stage Three and Stage Four (Perplexity and Harmony). I hoped I could help them by addressing their situation in Do I Stay Christian?

Tripp Fuller and I have designed this four-week course to help you engage with the book in community with other participants. There will be a recorded presentation that we encourage you to watch before each Live Session. Your questions will frame the Live Sessions. You'll also have the opportunity to engage with other students on the Facebook group for this course. All the materials will be available online for at least a year, so if you miss a session, you can catch up asynchronously.

I know we'll have some fun along the way. (How can you not have fun when you're working with Tripp Fuller?) But I also know that struggles of religious identity are sensitive and touch the deepest part of us, so we'll proceed with all due seriousness and tenderness too, along with honesty and grace. I look forward to our conversations.
PS...

Do I Stay Christian? Resources for you and your small group

You may be interested in this excerpt from the book in the Daily Meditation from the Center for Action and Contemplation, of which I am honored to be a part:


You’ll also find a three-part video guide to the book and an invitation to be part of a four-week online class and community HERE:


This online course and community are a partnership with the amazing Tripp Fuller of Homebrewed Christianity … one of the really significant theological resources on the interwebs today.

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Homebrewed Class Outline
with Tripp Fuller & Brian McLaren

Our goal for this class is interactive engagement. We are excited to spend our four live sessions entirely shaped by the questions you send in as you read Do I Stay Christian. In order to make that time as enriching as possible, we developed two parts to class (other than the book of course).

1. Video Guide to Do I Stay Christian?

Brian and Tripp have already recorded and posted a three video series that walks through the book on the class resource page. Whenever you join this class, we invite you to use them as you read. You can watch them on your own, use them in a book/church group, or discuss them in the class Facebook group. We hope they provoke conversation and generate some important questions for the other main element of the class...

2. Live Sunday Sessions

Each Sunday night, we will have a live stream centering on and shaped by your questions. Participants will have multiple ways and opportunities to send in questions for the discussions. We are hoping the timing will work for both individuals and book/church groups. Whether or not you join live, the audio and video of each session will be available on the resource page.

  • 9/11 - SESSION 1Why?: The Crisis of Christian Identity
  • 9/18 - SESSION 2No!: Ten reasons not to stay Christian (or to think twice at least)
  • 9/25 - SESSION 3Yes: Ten reasons and ways to stay Christian (with your eyes wide open)
  • 10/2 - SESSION 4How?: Flipping the Question to How Am I Going to Live? (or What Kind of Human Do I Want to Be?)


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Meet the Hosts of Why Stay Christian?

BRIAN MCLAREN
Author & Public Theologian
Brian D. McLaren is an author, speaker, activist, and public theologian. A former college English teacher and pastor, he is a passionate advocate for “a new kind of Christianity” – just, generous, and working with people of all faiths for the common good. He is a faculty member of The Living School and podcaster with Learning How to See, which are part of the Center for Action and Contemplation. He is also an Auburn Senior Fellow and works closely with the Wild Goose Festival, the Fair Food ProgramVote Common Good, and Progressive Christianity. His recent projects include an illustrated children’s book (for all ages) called Cory and the Seventh Story and The Galapagos Islands: A Spiritual Journey, and Faith After Doubt. His newest book is Do I Stay Christian? and we are going to read it together.

 

TRIPP FULLER
University of Edinburgh
Dr. Fuller is a Postdoctoral Research Fellow in Theology & Science at the University of Edinburgh. He recently released Divine Self-Investment: a Constructive Open and Relational Christology, the first book in the Studies in Open and Relational Theology series. For over 14 years Tripp has been doing the Homebrewed Christianity podcast (think on-demand internet radio) where he interviews different scholars about their work so you can get nerdy in traffic, on the treadmill, or doing the dishes. Last year it had over 4 million downloads. It also inspired a book series with Fortress Press called the Homebrewed Christianity Guides to... topics like God, Jesus, Spirit, Church History, etc. Tripp is a very committed and (some of his friends think overly ) engaged Lakers fan and takes Star Wars and Lord of the Rings very seriously.


Brian's Podcast - "Learning How to See"

https://cac.org/podcast/learning-how-to-see/

Brian just launched the third season of his podcast Learning How to See. This season is informed by Do I Stay Christian?, and will challenge listeners to relearn how they see Christianity by embracing exploration over-explanation and dialogue over dogma. 



Do I Stay Christian? a conversation with Brian McLaren about his new book
Streamed live on May 24, 2022

Brian McLaren joins Tripp to discuss his new book & the upcoming online reading group for "Do I Stay Christian?" You can get access to a 3 session video guide to the book when you join the class now.


Invite to "Do I Stay Christian?" with Brian McLaren
May 27, 2022




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Next Homebrewed Class - Why Stay Christian?


Why Stay Christian? with John Cobb
Apr 26, 2022

Dr. Cobb taught theology at the Claremont School of Theology from 1958 to 1990. In 2014 he became the first theologian elected to the prestigious American Academy of Arts and Sciences for his interdisciplinary work in ecology, economics, and biology. He has published over 30 books including the first full-length text in eco-philosophy. I am thrilled to have John Cobb joining me for a 6-week class introducing Process Theology. This open online class is donation-based (including 0), so feel the lure and come nerd out with my favorite living theologian. http://www.ChristianityInProcess.com


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ADDITIONAL VIDEOS



 ReThinking Christianity | S2E9 | Brian McLaren: Do I Stay Christian?
May 18, 2022

On Todays Episode I sit down with Brian McLaren to talk about his new upcoming titled called "Do I Stay Christian?" It was a great conversation all around a question that many people find themselves asking.



Monday, November 15, 2021

Authoritarianism has entered the Church; but not in a good way...


Former United States president Donald Trump's photo op at St. John's Church has been
described as following the "playbook of authoritarian-leaning leaders the world over".


Constitution of the United States - The First Amendment

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.


Authoritarianism has entered the Church; but not in a good way...
by R.E. Slater

This morning's news of Michael Flynn's extremist speech last night at a radical right rally in San Antonio, Texas, is cause for concern to all Christians and Churches teaching an openness of dialogue, irenic critique of beliefs amid doctrinal tenents, and welcoming of all religions different from themselves as is proper in an expanding, polyplural, civil democracy of the 21st Century.

However, under the recent Trumpian era of gaslighting fundamental and conservative evangelical Christian churches, white religious nationalism (aka, white supremacy) has gained a new traction in American churches once content in arguing doctrine with one another rather than attacking the democratic institutions of the United States of America as expressed in the Constitution's First Amendment Rights.

The church in the past twenty years has changed. And not in a good way. For those interested in see how these changes have taken place I have put together a complete podcast series of 14 discussions held by Tripp Fuller with Diana Butler Bass and Brian McLaren this past Fall. All these speakers (and friends), like myself, were at one time part of the fundamental / conservative evangelical church, but have now transition to a wake-up call in Jesus to step away from any self-referential belief systems into a more expansive, and tolerant, progressive Christian frame of mind where beliefs and dogmas might be discussed more patiently with one another.

R.E. Slater
November 15, 2021


News References
November 14, 2021


MarketWatch -




One may also add multiple examples in European history
of both Catholic and Protestant authoritarianism



Religion and Authoritarianism

Most measures of religiosity, such as church attendance and affiliation, are positively correlated with the authoritarian personality cluster, which includes submission to authority, conventionality, and intolerance of out-groups. The correlation is especially strong between religious fundamentalism (defined as belief in an "inerrant set of religious teachings") and authoritarianism, both of which are characterized by low openness to experience, high rigidity, and low cognitive complexity. In particular, authoritarianism "is positively associated with a religion that is conventional, unquestioned, and unreflective".

Background

United States president Donald Trump's photo op at St. John's Church has been described as following the "playbook of authoritarian-leaning leaders the world over".

Hundreds of scientific articles have been published investigating the connections between religion and authoritarianism. There is a distinction between psychology, which treats authoritarianism as innate to the personality, and sociology, which considers authoritarianism a result of one's environment and posits that it may be influenced by factors such as religion.

A longitudinal study of Americans born in the 1920s found that this effect held for traditional church-centered religion but not for those that are seeking non-institutional spirituality. The latter mode of religion is "characterized by an openness to new experiences and by creativity and experimentation, characteristics that are antithetical to the conventionality that adheres in authoritarianism".

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Christianity 20 Years after 9/11/2001
by R.E. Slater

I've been finding Tripp's 14 or so podcasts on white authoritarian religious groups very relevant. These past recent years has shown to America the highly uncivil rhetoric and radical nationalism which has swept up the greater part of evangelicalism. If you, like myself, are finding yourself at a greater and greater distance from your church, family and friends, this is why.

Theo-Politicism has swept into the church and neatly divided 30% of us from our present fellowships. In these podcasts Diana has been tasked with reporting from the Pew Surveys and PRRI surveys issued recently during the discussions (the ones I listed not long ago that are always available to the public)....

Diana's religious focus is on reporting on the history of the contemporary Christian church as a religious sociologist who participates with these surveys on a regular basis and has written many books and blog articles over the years based upon her findings. You may also walk with her weekly on her website, "The Cottage".

R.E. Slater
November 15, 2021


You may subscribe free of charge -
https://dianabutlerbass.substack.com/


also check youtube for more of diana's podcasts -
https://www.youtube.com/results...

and of course anything tripp fuller -
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=tripp+fuller

Homebrewed Christianity -
https://www.youtube.com/results...


mine own site -
https://relevancy22.blogspot.com/



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Tripp Fuller Live Streaming W/ Diana Butler Bass
Jun 16, 2021




Invite to "Oh God, What Now?"
with Brian McLaren & Diana Butler Bass
Aug 25, 2021




Session 1
20 Years of Religious Decline
Aug 31, 2021




Session 2
The Rise of Authoritarianism
Sep 7, 2021




Q&A - Session 2
with Brian McLaren & Tripp Fuller
Sep 8, 2021




Session 3
Repentance and Resistance
Sep 14, 2021




Q&A - Session 3
with Diana Butler Bass & Tripp Fuller
Sep 16, 2021





Diana Butler Bass' Session 4 discussion | artwork by Steve Thomason



Session 4
Theology and Spirituality in a Time of Rupture
Sep 21, 2021




Q&A - Session 4
with Diana Butler Bass & Tripp Fuller
Sep 23, 2021




Session 5
Inter-Religious Learning w/ Brian McLaren
Sep 28, 2021




Q&A - Session 5
with Brian McLaren & Tripp Fuller
Sep 30, 2021




TheoCon Presentation by Brian McLaren
the Parable of the Kayakers
Jul 12, 2020


More TheoCon here - Https://Theologycon.Com



Session 6
Should I Stay or Should I Go?
with Diana Bass, Brian McLaren, and Tripp Fuller
Oct 5, 2021




Moral Injury & the War on Terror
with Army Chaplain Dr. Josh Morris
Sep 9, 2021





Monday, October 25, 2021

Christianity 20 Years After 9/11 - Session 6




"Spiritual Awakenings begin with God's LOVE above all else.
This interiority speaks to an internal awakening of the soul first
before an exterior awakening of the Church second." - re slater

"Relationships are always first and foremost in a Christian revival.
If true, it will always affect our religious communal presence in politics.
It will place a strain upon our version of human justice with God's own
version of social justice. There will always arise a tension to do the right
for humanity over-and-above the church's own dogmas." - re slater


Christianity 20 Years After 9/11 - Session 6







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Session 6
Should I Stay or Should I Go?
with Diana Bass, Brian McLaren, and Tripp Fuller
Oct 5, 2021




Moral Injury & the War on Terror
with Army Chaplain Dr. Josh Morris
Sep 9, 2021




Christianity 20 Years After 9/11 - Session 5




"Spiritual Awakenings begin with God's LOVE above all else.
This interiority speaks to an internal awakening of the soul first
before an exterior awakening of the Church second." - re slater

"Relationships are always first and foremost in a Christian revival.
If true, it will always affect our religious communal presence in politics.
It will place a strain upon our version of human justice with God's own
version of social justice. There will always arise a tension to do the right
for humanity over-and-above the church's own dogmas." - re slater


Christianity 20 Years After 9/11 - Session 5

8/09 - PREQUEL: What to Expect








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Session 5
Inter-Religious Learning w/ Brian McLaren
Sep 28, 2021




Q&A - Session 5
with Brian McLaren & Tripp Fuller
Sep 30, 2021




TheoCon Presentation by Brian McLaren
the Parable of the Kayakers
Jul 12, 2020


More TheoCon here - Https://Theologycon.Com



Christianity 20 Years After 9/11 - Session 4




"Spiritual Awakenings begin with God's LOVE above all else.
This interiority speaks to an internal awakening of the soul first
before an exterior awakening of the Church second." - re slater

"Relationships are always first and foremost in a Christian revival.
If true, it will always affect our religious communal presence in politics.
It will place a strain upon our version of human justice with God's own
version of social justice. There will always arise a tension to do the right
for humanity over-and-above the church's own dogmas." - re slater


Christianity 20 Years After 9/11 - Session 4

8/09 - PREQUEL: What to Expect








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Diana Butler Bass' Session 4 discussion | artwork by Steve Thomason



Session 4
Theology and Spirituality in a Time of Rupture
Sep 21, 2021




Q&A - Session 4
with Diana Butler Bass & Tripp Fuller
Sep 23, 2021





Christianity 20 Years After 9/11 - Session 3




"Spiritual Awakenings begin with God's LOVE above all else.
This interiority speaks to an internal awakening of the soul first
before an exterior awakening of the Church second." - re slater

"Relationships are always first and foremost in a Christian revival.
If true, it will always affect our religious communal presence in politics.
It will place a strain upon our version of human justice with God's own
version of social justice. There will always arise a tension to do the right
for humanity over-and-above the church's own dogmas." - re slater


Christianity 20 Years After 9/11 - Session 3

8/09 - PREQUEL: What to Expect








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Session 3
Repentance and Resistance
Sep 14, 2021




Q&A - Session 3
with Diana Butler Bass & Tripp Fuller
Sep 16, 2021





Christianity 20 Years After 9/11 - Session 2




"Spiritual Awakenings begin with God's LOVE above all else.
This interiority speaks to an internal awakening of the soul first
before an exterior awakening of the Church second." - re slater

"Relationships are always first and foremost in a Christian revival.
If true, it will always affect our religious communal presence in politics.
It will place a strain upon our version of human justice with God's own
version of social justice. There will always arise a tension to do the right
for humanity over-and-above the church's own dogmas." - re slater


Christianity 20 Years After 9/11 - Session 2

8/09 - PREQUEL: What to Expect









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Session 2
The Rise of Authoritarianism
Sep 7, 2021




Q&A - Session 2
with Brian McLaren & Tripp Fuller
Sep 8, 2021