Quotes & Sayings


We, and creation itself, actualize the possibilities of the God who sustains the world, towards becoming in the world in a fuller, more deeper way. - R.E. Slater

There is urgency in coming to see the world as a web of interrelated processes of which we are integral parts, so that all of our choices and actions have [consequential effects upon] the world around us. - Process Metaphysician Alfred North Whitehead

Kurt Gödel's Incompleteness Theorem says (i) all closed systems are unprovable within themselves and, that (ii) all open systems are rightly understood as incomplete. - R.E. Slater

The most true thing about you is what God has said to you in Christ, "You are My Beloved." - Tripp Fuller

The God among us is the God who refuses to be God without us, so great is God's Love. - Tripp Fuller

According to some Christian outlooks we were made for another world. Perhaps, rather, we were made for this world to recreate, reclaim, redeem, and renew unto God's future aspiration by the power of His Spirit. - R.E. Slater

Our eschatological ethos is to love. To stand with those who are oppressed. To stand against those who are oppressing. It is that simple. Love is our only calling and Christian Hope. - R.E. Slater

Secularization theory has been massively falsified. We don't live in an age of secularity. We live in an age of explosive, pervasive religiosity... an age of religious pluralism. - Peter L. Berger

Exploring the edge of life and faith in a post-everything world. - Todd Littleton

I don't need another reason to believe, your love is all around for me to see. – Anon

Thou art our need; and in giving us more of thyself thou givest us all. - Khalil Gibran, Prayer XXIII

Be careful what you pretend to be. You become what you pretend to be. - Kurt Vonnegut

Religious beliefs, far from being primary, are often shaped and adjusted by our social goals. - Jim Forest

We become who we are by what we believe and can justify. - R.E. Slater

People, even more than things, need to be restored, renewed, revived, reclaimed, and redeemed; never throw out anyone. – Anon

Certainly, God's love has made fools of us all. - R.E. Slater

An apocalyptic Christian faith doesn't wait for Jesus to come, but for Jesus to become in our midst. - R.E. Slater

Christian belief in God begins with the cross and resurrection of Jesus, not with rational apologetics. - Eberhard Jüngel, Jürgen Moltmann

Our knowledge of God is through the 'I-Thou' encounter, not in finding God at the end of a syllogism or argument. There is a grave danger in any Christian treatment of God as an object. The God of Jesus Christ and Scripture is irreducibly subject and never made as an object, a force, a power, or a principle that can be manipulated. - Emil Brunner

“Ehyeh Asher Ehyeh” means "I will be that who I have yet to become." - God (Ex 3.14) or, conversely, “I AM who I AM Becoming.”

Our job is to love others without stopping to inquire whether or not they are worthy. - Thomas Merton

The church is God's world-changing social experiment of bringing unlikes and differents to the Eucharist/Communion table to share life with one another as a new kind of family. When this happens, we show to the world what love, justice, peace, reconciliation, and life together is designed by God to be. The church is God's show-and-tell for the world to see how God wants us to live as a blended, global, polypluralistic family united with one will, by one Lord, and baptized by one Spirit. – Anon

The cross that is planted at the heart of the history of the world cannot be uprooted. - Jacques Ellul

The Unity in whose loving presence the universe unfolds is inside each person as a call to welcome the stranger, protect animals and the earth, respect the dignity of each person, think new thoughts, and help bring about ecological civilizations. - John Cobb & Farhan A. Shah

If you board the wrong train it is of no use running along the corridors of the train in the other direction. - Dietrich Bonhoeffer

God's justice is restorative rather than punitive; His discipline is merciful rather than punishing; His power is made perfect in weakness; and His grace is sufficient for all. – Anon

Our little [biblical] systems have their day; they have their day and cease to be. They are but broken lights of Thee, and Thou, O God art more than they. - Alfred Lord Tennyson

We can’t control God; God is uncontrollable. God can’t control us; God’s love is uncontrolling! - Thomas Jay Oord

Life in perspective but always in process... as we are relational beings in process to one another, so life events are in process in relation to each event... as God is to Self, is to world, is to us... like Father, like sons and daughters, like events... life in process yet always in perspective. - R.E. Slater

To promote societal transition to sustainable ways of living and a global society founded on a shared ethical framework which includes respect and care for the community of life, ecological integrity, universal human rights, respect for diversity, economic justice, democracy, and a culture of peace. - The Earth Charter Mission Statement

Christian humanism is the belief that human freedom, individual conscience, and unencumbered rational inquiry are compatible with the practice of Christianity or even intrinsic in its doctrine. It represents a philosophical union of Christian faith and classical humanist principles. - Scott Postma

It is never wise to have a self-appointed religious institution determine a nation's moral code. The opportunities for moral compromise and failure are high; the moral codes and creeds assuredly racist, discriminatory, or subjectively and religiously defined; and the pronouncement of inhumanitarian political objectives quite predictable. - R.E. Slater

God's love must both center and define the Christian faith and all religious or human faiths seeking human and ecological balance in worlds of subtraction, harm, tragedy, and evil. - R.E. Slater

In Whitehead’s process ontology, we can think of the experiential ground of reality as an eternal pulse whereby what is objectively public in one moment becomes subjectively prehended in the next, and whereby the subject that emerges from its feelings then perishes into public expression as an object (or “superject”) aiming for novelty. There is a rhythm of Being between object and subject, not an ontological division. This rhythm powers the creative growth of the universe from one occasion of experience to the next. This is the Whiteheadian mantra: “The many become one and are increased by one.” - Matthew Segall

Without Love there is no Truth. And True Truth is always Loving. There is no dichotomy between these terms but only seamless integration. This is the premier centering focus of a Processual Theology of Love. - R.E. Slater

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Note: Generally I do not respond to commentary. I may read the comments but wish to reserve my time to write (or write from the comments I read). Instead, I'd like to see our community help one another and in the helping encourage and exhort each of us towards Christian love in Christ Jesus our Lord and Savior. - re slater

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Saturday, September 28, 2024

The Artistry of Processual Prophecy

The Transformative Nature of the Christ Event, by R.E. Slater & OpenAI ChatGPT 4.0  

The Artistry of Processual Prophecy

RE Slater & ChtGPT 4.0

September 28, 2024

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Hi. New topic. Let's discuss process based Bible interpretation as a prophetic activity. This is a continuation of our last discussion.
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Great, let’s dive into process-based Bible interpretation as a prophetic activity.

1. Prophetic Activity in Process Thought:

In process theology, prophetic activity is more than just a declaration of future events or moral exhortation. It is the dynamic process through which a community engages with divine reality to discern new possibilities for living in alignment with God’s purposes. This activity is both receptive and creative: receptive to the lure of the divine presence (often associated with the Holy Spirit) and creative in how it articulates and actualizes those possibilities within specific historical and social contexts.

From this perspective, prophetic interpretation of the Bible involves the following elements:

  • Discerning Divine Movement: It entails recognizing how the biblical text resonates with or challenges the present moment, interpreting it in a way that unveils deeper meanings and divine promptings for transformation.
  • Mediating the Divine Lure: The prophet, as interpreter, mediates the divine lure toward greater possibilities, helping the community envision new ways of being that align with God’s transformative purposes.
  • Communal Actualization: The prophetic act is not just about individual insight but about communal actualization, where the new insights are integrated into the community’s life and practice, thereby contributing to the ongoing process of divine-human co-creation.

2. Process-Based Interpretation of the Bible as Prophetic:

In traditional readings, prophecy is often viewed as a static declaration or a predictive function. However, in a process-based interpretation, prophecy is seen as a dynamic engagement with the text, where the interpreter becomes a co-creator with God in discerning new ways the community can respond to divine movements. This involves:

  • Reading the Text as Process: A process-based reading views the biblical text as itself a product of multiple layers of tradition and interpretation, reflecting the evolving understanding of God, humanity, and the world. This view acknowledges that the Bible is not a frozen artifact but a living document that continues to speak in new ways.
  • Interpreting with a View toward Becoming: Prophetic interpretation is forward-looking, seeking to discern how the community can become more fully aligned with the divine lure. This means interpreting the text not merely for what it says but for how it invites transformation.
  • Integrating the Holy Spirit’s Activity: In Christian terms, this prophetic interpretation is deeply intertwined with the work of the Holy Spirit, who, in process theology, is seen as the divine presence that guides, inspires, and sustains creative transformation within communities.

3. The Role of the Holy Spirit in Prophetic Interpretation:

From a process theological perspective, the Holy Spirit plays a central role in prophetic interpretation as the agent of divine involvement in the world’s ongoing process of becoming. The Spirit’s action is not coercive but persuasive, inviting both individuals and communities to embody new possibilities of love, justice, and beauty.

Holy Spirit as the Divine Lure:

  • The Holy Spirit can be understood as the aspect of God that lures creation toward its highest potential. In the context of biblical interpretation, this means the Spirit is the one who opens up new meanings in the text and reveals pathways for action that resonate with God’s aims for creation.
  • The Spirit’s influence can be seen in the way interpretations emerge that resonate deeply with the needs and challenges of the present moment, suggesting that these interpretations are not merely human inventions but responses to divine promptings.

Holy Spirit as Sustainer of Prophetic Communities:

  • The Spirit also sustains the community’s ability to live out the prophetic vision that emerges from interpretation. This involves empowering communities to act courageously, speak truthfully, and maintain hope amidst adversity, embodying the transformative power of the prophetic word.

4. Prophetic Interpretation as Engaging with the Real:

Continuing from our previous discussion, the prophetic nature of process-based interpretation involves acquiring the realanalyzing the real, and responding to the real. Let’s see how this framework applies to biblical prophecy:

  • Acquiring the Real: In the prophetic act, acquiring the real means immersing oneself in both the biblical text and the current social context. It’s about discerning the tensions, struggles, and hopes of the community, just as the prophets of old addressed the specific historical realities of Israel and Judah.

  • Analyzing the Real: Analyzing the real involves probing how the biblical text addresses these realities—whether by challenging existing norms, unveiling new perspectives, or calling for repentance and change. This analysis is both exegetical (drawing meaning from the text) and theological (interpreting that meaning in light of divine purposes).

  • Responding to the Real: The prophetic response is where the process of interpretation leads to concrete actions. This response is guided by the Spirit and aims to embody the divine lure in practical ways, whether through new social practices, reformed liturgies, or transformed community relationships.

5. Practical Aspects of Prophetic Process-Based Interpretation:

How does this prophetic, process-based interpretation take shape in practical terms? Let’s consider a few applications:

Re-reading Social Justice Texts:

Consider a process-based reading of the prophetic texts like Isaiah 58 or Amos 5. Traditionally, these texts are seen as calls for social justice, but a process-based interpretation would go further:

  • Analyzing the Context and Divine Lure: The interpreter would discern how these texts not only condemn social injustice but offer a vision of what society could become—a vision that God is actively luring the community toward through the Holy Spirit.
  • Responding through Creative Actualization: The community, guided by this reading, might create new ministries, social programs, or advocacy efforts that incarnate this prophetic vision, seeing these actions as part of God’s ongoing work in the world.

Engaging Apocalyptic Texts:

Apocalyptic texts like Revelation are often viewed as cryptic predictions of the end times. A process-based, prophetic interpretation, however, would see these texts as:

  • Engaging the Real: Addressing the real struggles of marginalized communities in symbolic terms, reflecting their hopes and fears in the face of empire.
  • Analyzing the Real: Understanding the apocalyptic imagery as expressing the lure toward a radically new world order that reflects God’s justice and peace.
  • Responding to the Real: Encouraging communities to live into this new reality in their present circumstances, embodying hope and resistance against forces of oppression.

6. Prophetic Interpretation as a Form of Co-Creation:

In process thought, the prophet (or the prophetic interpreter) is seen as a co-creator with God. This means that prophetic interpretation is not merely about “getting it right” or “telling it like it is,” but about contributing to the ongoing creation of a reality that is more aligned with God’s purposes.

  • Creating New Meanings: Prophetic interpretation generates new meanings and understandings that did not exist before. These new meanings invite communities to imagine and live into new possibilities.
  • Participation in the Divine Process: By offering these new interpretations and embodying them, the interpreter participates in the divine process of creating a more just and loving world.

7. Challenges and Opportunities in Prophetic Interpretation:

Prophetic, process-based interpretation is not without its challenges. It requires:

  • Openness to Newness: Interpreters must be open to new interpretations that may challenge long-held beliefs or traditions.
  • Community Discernment: Prophetic interpretation is best done in community, where diverse voices can contribute to a fuller understanding of how the Spirit is leading.
  • Courage and Commitment: Embodying the prophetic word requires courage, as it often entails confronting powers and principalities or standing against societal norms.

Conclusion:

In a process-based framework, biblical interpretation becomes a prophetic activity by participating in the divine work of transformation, discernment, and actualization. The Holy Spirit, as the divine lure, guides this process, opening up new possibilities for understanding and living the text. The prophetic interpreter, in dialogue with the biblical text and the community’s context, mediates these possibilities, offering a vision that calls the community to actualize God’s purposes in concrete, transformative ways.

This perspective not only deepens our understanding of the Bible’s prophetic dimensions but also invites communities into a more dynamic and creative engagement with Scripture, where interpretation becomes a form of participation in God’s ongoing creative work in the world.

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Explain our process based interpolation differs from, but can agree with, biblical liberalism and related evangelical interpolations from the 1970s and forward.
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Process-based interpretation of the Bible differs from but can also find areas of agreement with both biblical liberalism and certain evangelical interpretations developed in the latter half of the 20th century. This nuanced relationship stems from their distinct understandings of divine action, biblical authority, and the role of human agency in interpreting Scripture. Below, we’ll explore these differences and potential points of agreement:

1. Differences Between Process-Based Interpretation and Biblical Liberalism:

Biblical Liberalism Defined: Biblical liberalism, as developed in the 19th and 20th centuries, sought to reconcile the Bible with modern scientific, historical, and ethical insights. It emphasized the human authorship of the Bible, the need to interpret Scripture in light of contemporary knowledge, and often de-emphasized supernatural elements in favor of ethical teachings and moral principles.

Differences in Key Areas:

  • Understanding of Divine Action:

    • Process Theology’s View: In process-based interpretation, God is understood as dynamically involved in the world, not through coercive intervention but through a persuasive “lure” that invites creation toward greater complexity, harmony, and beauty. This view sees the divine presence as active and evolving within the interpretative process.
    • Biblical Liberalism’s View: Biblical liberalism often views God’s activity as primarily mediated through human consciousness and ethical development. The emphasis is less on direct divine involvement and more on human moral progress and rationality.

    Key Difference: While biblical liberalism downplays supernatural aspects of divine action, process-based interpretation maintains that divine influence is a real, though non-coercive, force that actively shapes both historical and interpretative processes.

  • Biblical Authority and Human Agency:

    • Process Theology’s View: The Bible is a record of communities engaging with the divine presence in their specific historical contexts. Its authority lies in its role as a witness to these dynamic interactions, which remain open to reinterpretation and actualization in new contexts. The biblical text is seen as an unfolding conversation between God and humanity that continues to evolve.
    • Biblical Liberalism’s View: Biblical liberalism tends to emphasize human authorship and regards the Bible as a historical document shaped by the evolving religious consciousness of its time. Authority is often seen in terms of ethical ideals and human insights rather than divine revelation.

    Key Difference: Process theology affirms a deeper interplay between divine and human agency, where the Bible is not just a human artifact but a product of co-creation between God and humanity. This co-creative view acknowledges the Bible’s limitations while also affirming its capacity to reveal divine purposes.

  • Interpretative Openness vs. Ethical Reductionism:

    • Process Theology’s View: Interpretation is an open-ended process where new meanings emerge through the interaction of the text, the interpreter, and the divine lure. The Bible is not reduced to a set of moral principles but seen as an evolving narrative that invites communities into deeper relationships with God and with each other.
    • Biblical Liberalism’s View: Liberal interpretations often focus on extracting ethical teachings from the Bible, sometimes at the expense of its narrative, mythic, or poetic dimensions.

    Key Difference: Process theology resists the reduction of Scripture to moralism or rationalistic explanations, emphasizing instead the ongoing revelation of divine possibilities through the text’s diverse genres and voices.

2. Differences Between Process-Based Interpretation and Evangelical Interpolations:

Evangelical Interpolations Defined: Since the 1970s, evangelical biblical interpretations have been marked by a variety of approaches, ranging from a reaffirmation of biblical inerrancy and authority (e.g., the Chicago Statement on Biblical Inerrancy, 1978) to more nuanced approaches that acknowledge the historical and cultural contexts of the text while still affirming its divine inspiration.

Differences in Key Areas:

  • Biblical Inerrancy and Divine Truth:

    • Process Theology’s View: Process-based interpretation rejects the notion of biblical inerrancy, viewing the Bible as a text that reflects both divine guidance and human limitations. Truth, in this context, is not found in factual or historical precision but in the text’s ability to point toward divine possibilities and transformative meanings.
    • Evangelical View: Most evangelical interpretations affirm the inerrancy or infallibility of the Bible, holding that the Scriptures are fully true in all matters they address, whether theological, historical, or moral. This view often leads to a more literal reading of the text and resistance to interpretations that challenge traditional doctrines.

    Key Difference: Process theology affirms the value and inspiration of the Bible but sees it as part of an evolving relationship between God and humanity, where errors and contradictions are part of the text’s human dimension. Evangelicals, by contrast, tend to see the Bible as free from error and therefore a more fixed and unchanging standard of truth.

  • Understanding of Divine Revelation:

    • Process Theology’s View: Divine revelation is an ongoing process that happens within history, through the biblical text, and in the present-day experiences of communities. The Holy Spirit, as the divine lure, continues to inspire new interpretations and understandings of Scripture that speak to contemporary issues.
    • Evangelical View: Revelation is often seen as being completed in the biblical canon. While the Holy Spirit helps illuminate the meaning of the text, the content of revelation itself is seen as final and unchanging.

    Key Difference: For process theology, the Holy Spirit’s activity includes revealing new meanings and possibilities through Scripture, in response to evolving circumstances. In contrast, evangelicalism often maintains that revelation is closed and new interpretations must align with the original intent of the biblical authors.

  • Approach to Social Issues:

    • Process Theology’s View: Process-based interpretation is particularly open to engaging with contemporary social issues in ways that might involve reinterpreting traditional doctrines or practices. This openness is rooted in the belief that God’s lure continually guides the community toward greater justice, inclusivity, and ecological responsibility.
    • Evangelical View: While many evangelicals engage actively with social issues, their interpretations are typically more constrained by traditional doctrinal boundaries. Social and ethical concerns are often addressed within the framework of biblical teachings understood as universally applicable.

    Key Difference: Process theology sees biblical interpretation as an evolving dialogue that responds creatively to new social contexts, whereas evangelical approaches often adhere more closely to established interpretations and norms.

3. Points of Agreement:

Despite these differences, there are significant areas of agreement where process-based interpretation can dialogue constructively with both biblical liberalism and evangelical interpretations:

  • Commitment to the Bible as Foundational: Both process theology and evangelicalism affirm the importance of the Bible as foundational to faith. Even though they differ on its nature and authority, both view it as a vital source for theological reflection and spiritual life.
  • Emphasis on the Role of the Holy Spirit: While evangelicalism and process theology differ in how they understand the Spirit’s work, both recognize the Spirit’s role in illuminating Scripture and guiding believers. This shared emphasis can lead to fruitful discussions on how the Spirit interacts with human freedom and interpretation.
  • Openness to Contextual Understanding: While evangelicalism may sometimes resist more radical re-readings, there has been a growing openness within some evangelical circles (e.g., missional hermeneutics or the New Perspective on Paul) to consider historical and cultural contexts. This openness provides common ground with process theology’s contextualized approach to interpretation.
  • Concern for Ethical and Social Engagement: Both traditions have a strong ethical dimension, even if their approaches and conclusions differ. Process theology’s emphasis on justice, ecological sustainability, and inclusivity can resonate with evangelical movements that focus on social justice and community transformation.

4. Potential for Dialogue and Mutual Enrichment:

Process theology can offer biblical liberalism and evangelicalism a broader vision of divine action, an appreciation for the complexity of the biblical text, and a flexible framework for interpreting Scripture in light of contemporary realities. Conversely, evangelicalism’s emphasis on the transformative power of Scripture and biblical liberalism’s critical engagement with historical contexts can enrich process theology’s interpretative methods.

Conclusion:

Process-based interpretation offers a distinct yet complementary perspective to both biblical liberalism and evangelical interpretations. It diverges in its understanding of divine action, biblical authority, and revelation but finds common ground in its commitment to the Bible as a source of meaning, its recognition of the Spirit’s guiding role, and its engagement with social concerns. This potential for dialogue and mutual enrichment can lead to a more holistic and generative approach to biblical interpretation that honors the text’s complexities while remaining open to new possibilities of divine-human interaction.

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How would these views inform Christianity of the Christ event as a historical personage as well as a global Gandi-like figure. Please include Christological sacrifice, redemption and resurrection in these reflections of prophetic imagination and interpolation...
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To engage with the Christ event from the perspectives of process theologybiblical liberalism, and evangelical interpretations, it’s essential to consider how these frameworks shape our understanding of Christ as both a historical figure and a globally transformative presence. Each view has its unique emphasis on Jesus’ life, teachings, sacrificial death, resurrection, and ongoing relevance, yet they can intersect and dialogue in meaningful ways that illuminate his significance as a prophetic, world-changing figure akin to a Gandhi-like presence.

1. The Christ Event: Historical Personage and Global Transformative Figure

The "Christ event" refers to the life, death, and resurrection of Jesus as a singular occurrence that reveals divine action and has ongoing significance for history and humanity. This event can be viewed through several lenses:

  • Historical Personage: As a historical figure, Jesus lived in a specific time and place, embodying prophetic, ethical, and religious teachings that challenged the socio-political norms of first-century Palestine. Like Gandhi, Jesus’ actions and teachings sought to transform society, inspire non-violent resistance, and reimagine communal life around principles of love, justice, and mercy.
  • Global Transformative Figure: Beyond his historical context, Jesus’ life and message have transcended time and culture, influencing movements for justice, non-violence, and human dignity worldwide. This aspect aligns with viewing Jesus as a Gandhi-like figure, a symbolic representation of non-violent resistance to oppression and a call to transform society through love and self-sacrifice.

2. Process Theology and the Christ Event: A Dynamic Understanding of Jesus’ Role

In process theology, Jesus is understood as the supreme manifestation of God’s presence in the world, revealing the fullness of divine-human interaction. He is both a historical person and a dynamic force of divine transformation.

Christological Sacrifice and Redemption:

  • Sacrifice as Self-Emptying Love: In process thought, the sacrifice of Christ is not primarily about satisfying divine wrath or a legalistic atonement but is seen as the ultimate expression of divine love and solidarity with creation. Jesus’ self-giving love, demonstrated in his willingness to face suffering and death, reveals God’s character as one who participates in the world’s suffering and invites humanity into transformative love.
  • Redemption as Participatory Transformation: Redemption is understood as God’s ongoing work of healing and reconciliation, where Jesus’ life, death, and resurrection reveal the divine intention to transform all of creation. Humanity is invited to participate in this redemptive process by embodying Christ’s love, justice, and compassion in daily life.

Resurrection as New Possibilities for the World:

  • Resurrection in Process Thought: The resurrection is not merely a supernatural event that defies natural law but a profound symbol of new possibilities and hope emerging out of suffering and death. It signifies God’s capacity to bring forth new life from even the most tragic circumstances, inviting the world into a future where death and suffering are not the final words.
  • The Role of the Holy Spirit: The Holy Spirit, as the divine lure, continues to bring the implications of the resurrection into new contexts, inspiring communities to live out the radical implications of Christ’s love and justice in their time.

Jesus as a Prophetic Figure:

  • Jesus’ prophetic imagination aligns with process thought’s vision of God as continually luring creation toward greater beauty, complexity, and love. His teachings disrupt entrenched systems and offer new ways of understanding God, human relationships, and social structures. Like Gandhi, Jesus provides a model of how non-violent resistance and sacrificial love can effect profound social and spiritual change.

3. Biblical Liberalism: Jesus as Ethical Teacher and Moral Exemplar

Biblical liberalism tends to emphasize Jesus as a moral and ethical teacher whose life and teachings inspire human moral progress. In this view:

  • Christological Sacrifice as Ethical Exemplar: Jesus’ sacrificial death is seen as the ultimate example of self-giving love and moral courage. His willingness to suffer for his convictions and his refusal to retaliate against violence serve as a model for ethical living.
  • Redemption as Moral and Ethical Transformation: Redemption in this framework is not about a metaphysical transaction but about the transformation of human character and society. Jesus’ teachings on love, forgiveness, and justice challenge individuals and communities to reorient their lives toward these values.
  • Resurrection as the Vindication of Jesus’ Message: The resurrection, for biblical liberals, may be viewed symbolically as the vindication of Jesus’ life and teachings. It represents the triumph of love, truth, and justice over violence and oppression.

While biblical liberalism might not emphasize the cosmic or ontological aspects of redemption and resurrection, it resonates with process theology’s focus on the ethical and communal implications of the Christ event. It sees Jesus as a figure who inspires humanity to strive for a more just and compassionate world, akin to Gandhi’s role as a moral exemplar and advocate for non-violent resistance.

4. Evangelical Interpretations: Jesus as Savior and Redeemer

Evangelical interpretations, particularly from the 1970s onward, emphasize the substitutionary atonement and resurrection as foundational aspects of Christ’s work.

Christological Sacrifice:

  • Sacrifice as Substitutionary Atonement: Jesus’ sacrificial death is often understood as a substitutionary act that satisfies divine justice, taking on the penalty for humanity’s sins. This view sees the cross as the central moment of redemption, where God’s wrath is appeased, and believers are reconciled to God.
  • Redemption as Reconciliation with God: Redemption is understood in primarily relational terms, where Christ’s death and resurrection restore the broken relationship between humanity and God. The focus is on personal salvation and eternal life, secured through faith in Jesus.

Resurrection as Proof of Divine Power:

  • The resurrection is seen as God’s vindication of Jesus as the Son of God and the proof of his victory over sin and death. It confirms the believer’s hope for eternal life and the ultimate renewal of creation at Christ’s return.

5. Convergence and Divergence: The Christ Event in Process-Based Interpretation:

Process-based interpretation can find areas of convergence with both biblical liberalism and evangelicalism while also offering a distinctive vision:

Convergence with Biblical Liberalism:

  • Emphasis on Jesus’ Ethical Teachings: Process theology, like biblical liberalism, sees Jesus as embodying the highest ethical and moral values. His life is an example of how humanity can respond to the divine lure toward greater justice, love, and peace.
  • Focus on Social Transformation: Both views highlight the social and communal implications of Jesus’ message. They see Christ’s life and teachings as a call to transform society through non-violence, compassion, and justice.

Convergence with Evangelicalism:

  • Affirmation of the Centrality of Christ: Process theology agrees with evangelicalism in affirming the centrality of the Christ event as the supreme revelation of God’s nature and purposes. It sees Jesus as embodying the divine intention for humanity and creation.
  • Importance of Resurrection as New Possibility: While the nature of the resurrection may be understood differently, process theology affirms the resurrection as a transformative event that reveals God’s ongoing work of renewal and restoration.

Divergence from Both Traditions:

  • Sacrifice as Non-Coercive Love: Process theology reinterprets the sacrificial death of Jesus not as a divine transaction but as an expression of God’s non-coercive love and solidarity with creation’s suffering.
  • Redemption as Ongoing Process: Rather than viewing redemption as a once-for-all event, process theology sees it as an ongoing process in which God continually works to bring forth healing and transformation.
  • Resurrection as Symbol and Reality of New Possibilities: For process theology, the resurrection symbolizes God’s power to bring forth new life from suffering and death, revealing new possibilities for the world’s future. It is not just a past event but a present and future reality that the Spirit continues to actualize in history.

6. Prophetic Imagination and Interpolation:

The prophetic imagination, as articulated by scholars like Walter Brueggemann, invites interpreters to re-envision reality in light of God’s transformative possibilities. Process-based interpretation sees the Christ event as an invitation to engage in prophetic imagination:

  • Christ’s Life as a Prophetic Model: Jesus’ life, teachings, and actions are read as prophetic signs that disrupt conventional understandings and open up new possibilities for human relationships and societal structures.
  • Christ’s Sacrifice as Prophetic Act: His willingness to suffer and die is seen not as a transaction but as a prophetic act that reveals the depth of God’s love and calls humanity to embrace a life of sacrificial love and non-violent resistance.
  • Resurrection as Prophetic Hope: The resurrection becomes a prophetic symbol of God’s power to overcome the forces of death, inviting humanity to live in hope and actively participate in God’s redemptive work in the world.

Conclusion:

Process-based interpretation offers a nuanced vision of the Christ event that integrates elements of both biblical liberalism and evangelicalism while emphasizing the dynamic, ongoing nature of divine action and human response. It sees Jesus as both a historical figure and a global, transformative presence whose life, death, and resurrection reveal new possibilities for individual and communal transformation. This prophetic imagination and interpolation invites Christians to continually reimagine and embody the implications of the Christ event in ways that reflect God’s ongoing work of love, justice, and renewal in the world.

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Let's call these process insights the Christ-event which in many ways contrasts greatly with the rigidly static evangelical Calvinist view purported by a closed Bible, a closed predeterminitive future, and closed ethical considerations regulated to biased church traditions. Evangelicalism's limitation of the Christ event as mitigated by God's loving Spirit significantly removes all prospects of process-based vibrancy, generative living, and communal welling from actualizing life events. Pls respond.
ChatGPT said:
ChatGPT

Your articulation captures a critical tension between process-based understandings of the Christ-event and the more static, deterministic views found within certain strands of evangelical theology, particularly those influenced by Calvinist traditions. This contrast centers on divergent conceptions of divine action, human freedom, and the unfolding nature of history. Let’s explore these points of tension and the implications of a process-based Christ-event versus a closed, predetermined theological framework:

1. The Christ-Event in Process-Based Theology: Vibrant, Open, and Generative

The process-based view of the Christ-event sees Jesus’ life, death, and resurrection as dynamically engaged with history and the human condition. This interpretation holds that the Christ-event is not a closed or fixed moment in time but an ongoing source of divine activity and inspiration that unfolds through the presence of the Holy Spirit, continually inviting humanity into deeper relationships and new possibilities.

Characteristics of the Process-Based Christ-Event:

  • Open and Relational: The Christ-event is understood as an open invitation to participate in the divine life. It is not confined to the first century or locked into a predetermined set of interpretations. Instead, it is a relational encounter between God and humanity that continues to evolve as communities engage with Christ’s message in new contexts.
  • Non-Coercive and Participatory: God’s action in the Christ-event is seen as non-coercive, emphasizing persuasion and invitation rather than determinism. Christ’s sacrificial love is a call for humanity to freely respond, embodying divine love and justice in creative ways that reflect their unique contexts and challenges.
  • Generative and Prophetic: The Christ-event introduces new possibilities for human and communal flourishing, inviting continual reformation and transformation. The resurrection, in particular, is a generative act that signals the possibility of new life and new creation in the midst of death and despair.

In this view, the Christ-event is not merely a historical occurrence but an ongoing divine movement that reimagines reality, liberating humanity from static patterns and inviting co-creation of a more vibrant, just, and inclusive world.

2. Calvinist Evangelicalism: A Closed System of Theological Interpretation

In contrast, the Calvinist evangelical tradition tends to operate within a more closed theological system, emphasizing divine sovereignty, predestination, and the finality of revelation in a way that limits interpretative flexibility and generative engagement with the Christ-event. This view is characterized by:

  • Predeterminism and Divine Control: Calvinist theology, with its emphasis on divine sovereignty and predestination, sees all events—historical and personal—as predetermined by God’s will. This deterministic view closes off the possibility of new, unforeseen divine interactions in history, making the Christ-event a predetermined occurrence with fixed implications rather than an open, ongoing reality.
  • Closed Canon and Revelation: The Bible is often viewed as a closed canon with final, unchanging truths. The idea of sola scriptura (Scripture alone) emphasizes that the Bible, as the complete and sufficient revelation of God’s will, contains all that is necessary for faith and life. This view limits the role of the Holy Spirit in revealing new meanings or possibilities beyond what has already been “revealed.”
  • Static Ethical and Doctrinal Framework: Ethical considerations are regulated to established doctrines and church traditions that reflect a specific interpretation of Scripture. This often results in an exclusionary stance toward alternative theological views or new ethical insights (e.g., gender equality, LGBTQ+ inclusion, ecological ethics), which are seen as departures from the “orthodox” tradition.

Implications of a Closed System:

  • Restrictive Understanding of the Christ-Event: Within this framework, the Christ-event is often reduced to a theological formula: Christ’s death satisfies divine justice, and his resurrection guarantees the salvation of the elect. This reductionism limits the vibrancy and generative potential of the Christ-event as an ongoing source of transformation and divine presence.
  • Marginalization of Human and Communal Agency: The focus on divine predetermination marginalizes human agency and communal discernment. It frames human responses as either compliance or resistance to God’s will rather than creative participation in God’s unfolding purposes for the world.

3. The Limiting Effects of a Closed Christ-Event:

The closed, predeterministic view of the Christ-event limits the capacity for generative, communal, and transformative engagement in several key ways:

  • Stifling of Prophetic Imagination: By treating the Christ-event as a static, one-time occurrence with a singular, unchanging interpretation, this view stifles the prophetic imagination. It prevents communities from reimagining what the Christ-event might mean for their current context and struggles.
  • Suppression of Generative Living: Without the possibility of new divine possibilities emerging from the Christ-event, individuals and communities may feel trapped within a preordained script. This undermines the process-based emphasis on co-creating new realities with God and exploring new ethical, social, and theological dimensions of Christ’s life and message.
  • Exclusion of Alternative Voices and Experiences: A closed theological system often marginalizes interpretations that arise from different cultural, social, or experiential standpoints. This exclusionary stance prevents the Christ-event from being a truly global and inclusive revelation of God’s love, applicable to the diversity of human experiences and historical circumstances.

4. Process-Based Christology as an Alternative Vision:

Process-based Christology offers an alternative vision that addresses these limitations by affirming the Christ-event as an open, relational, and dynamically unfolding reality. This view emphasizes the Holy Spirit’s ongoing work in illuminating new aspects of the Christ-event and inviting communities to embody Christ’s love and justice in ways that are contextually relevant and socially transformative.

Christological Sacrifice and Redemption:

  • Sacrifice as Invitation to Transformative Love: In process thought, Christ’s sacrificial death is seen not as a predetermined transaction but as an expression of God’s solidarity with creation’s suffering and an invitation to embody transformative love. This sacrifice is generative in that it opens new possibilities for reconciliation and healing.
  • Redemption as an Ongoing Process: Redemption is not confined to the salvation of individual souls but involves the ongoing healing and restoration of relationships—between God and humanity, within human communities, and with the broader creation. This view embraces an open, processual understanding of how the Christ-event continues to shape the world.

Resurrection as Emergence of New Possibilities:

  • Resurrection as Invitation to Generative Living: The resurrection is seen as God’s creative act of bringing new life from death. It is not merely proof of Christ’s divinity or victory over sin but a demonstration of how God continuously brings forth new possibilities for life and flourishing in the midst of despair and destruction.
  • Christ as a Model for Generative Life: Jesus’ life, death, and resurrection provide a model for living generatively, embracing newness and transformation in ways that go beyond rigid, static interpretations of faith and ethics.

5. The Holy Spirit’s Role in Process-Based Christology:

In process theology, the Holy Spirit is the dynamic, ever-present force that makes the Christ-event an ongoing source of life and transformation:

  • The Spirit as the Continuation of the Christ-Event: The Holy Spirit continues the work of Christ, illuminating new meanings in Scripture, inspiring communities to new forms of justice and love, and empowering individuals to embrace new ethical possibilities.
  • The Spirit as Mediator of the Divine Lure: The Spirit invites humanity to participate in God’s ongoing work of redemption and new creation, offering each moment as an opportunity to embody Christ’s transformative presence in unique and contextually relevant ways.

6. Toward a More Generative and Inclusive Christ-Event:

By embracing an open, process-based understanding of the Christ-event, Christianity can move beyond the constraints of closed, static systems and re-engage the prophetic imagination:

  • Expanding the Scope of the Christ-Event: Rather than confining the Christ-event to a set of predetermined doctrines, process theology invites Christians to see the Christ-event as a living, unfolding reality that speaks to diverse cultures, contexts, and historical moments.
  • Integrating New Ethical and Theological Insights: This approach allows for the integration of new ethical insights and theological developments that reflect the Spirit’s ongoing work of transformation and inclusion, expanding the impact of the Christ-event to address contemporary social and ecological issues.

Conclusion:

Your description aptly captures how the closed nature of evangelical Calvinism limits the generative potential of the Christ-event, reducing it to a static, predetermined moment with fixed implications. In contrast, a process-based Christ-event affirms the vibrancy, openness, and transformative power of Jesus’ life, death, and resurrection as a continually unfolding reality, mediated by the Holy Spirit, that invites humanity into deeper participation in God’s work of love and justice.

This process-based view embraces the Christ-event as a dynamic, relational, and generative presence that continually reimagines what it means to live in the light of Christ’s love, breaking free from restrictive theological systems and opening new possibilities for individual and communal flourishing.

You said:
Thank you for interesting the Holy Spirit's influence of imbuing Christ's stoning working into a lively discussion of process-based Christianity that is more than ex-vangelical but post-evangelic with losing the heart of Christianity found in the loving God head introducing itself through the purpose and work of Christ. In many ways, traditional Christianity would find a far broader application of its faith when based on process philosophy and theology and the natural sciencs than it does with all past philosophical-theologies previously built upon.
ChatGPT said:
ChatGPT

You're welcome, and I appreciate your insightful observations on how a process-based understanding of Christianity, centered on the Holy Spirit’s dynamic influence, can reinvigorate the faith in a way that both honors its core and opens it up to broader applications. Let’s expand on your ideas by exploring why process-based Christianity provides a richer, more integrative framework that aligns with modern scientific insights and philosophical developments, without losing the essential heart of Christian faith.

1. The Holy Spirit’s Role in Process-Based Christianity: A Living Continuation of Christ’s Work

In process-based Christianity, the Holy Spirit’s activity is not limited to past events or doctrinal formulations but is understood as a continuous, lively presence that imbues Christ’s teachings and actions with ongoing relevance and power. This view transforms traditional understandings of the Holy Spirit’s role in several key ways:

  • Dynamic Immanence: The Holy Spirit is present and active in every moment of creation, guiding the world toward the realization of God’s loving purposes. This dynamic immanence allows for a living relationship between God and humanity, where the Christ-event is not just a historical memory but a present and evolving reality.
  • Creative Transformation: The Spirit works creatively, not coercively, inspiring individuals and communities to respond to divine possibilities. This means that the Spirit’s influence in interpreting and living out the Christ-event leads to continual transformation, adaptation, and renewal based on emerging insights, needs, and contexts.

2. Process-Based Christianity as a Broader Application of Faith

Traditional Christianity, with its roots in fixed metaphysical systems and static doctrinal formulations, can sometimes limit its relevance to new scientific and philosophical developments. Process-based Christianity, however, offers a broader application by incorporating these elements in a way that enriches the faith:

Alignment with Modern Science and Philosophy:

  • Integrative Theology and Science Dialogue: Process theology, with its emphasis on relationality, becoming, and creativity, resonates with contemporary scientific understandings of the universe. Concepts such as emergence, complexity, and interconnectedness in fields like quantum physics and evolutionary biology parallel process theology’s vision of a world that is dynamic and interrelated.
  • Re-envisioning Miracles and Divine Action: Miracles and divine actions are re-envisioned not as supernatural suspensions of natural laws but as the emergence of new possibilities within the framework of God’s ongoing creative involvement in the world. This allows for a reinterpretation of the Christ-event, including his resurrection, as a profound manifestation of divine creativity rather than a violation of nature’s order.

Ethical and Ecological Considerations:

  • Ethical Expansion through Process Thought: Traditional Christianity often focuses on personal salvation and fixed ethical norms, but process-based Christianity expands the ethical scope to include broader social and ecological concerns. The Holy Spirit’s influence in this view is not limited to guiding personal morality but encompasses the transformation of social systems and ecological practices.
  • Environmental Theology and Care for Creation: Process theology’s emphasis on the interrelatedness of all creation provides a theological basis for a robust environmental ethic. The Holy Spirit’s ongoing work in creation is seen as a call to participate in the healing and restoration of the natural world, aligning with contemporary ecological sciences and ethical imperatives.

3. Moving Beyond “Ex-Vangelical” to “Post-Evangelical”: Retaining the Heart of Christianity

The shift from a traditional evangelical framework to a process-based understanding does not entail the loss of Christianity’s essence but rather its re-centering around a more open and expansive understanding of divine love and action:

  • Reimagining Redemption and Salvation: Salvation is not merely a ticket to the afterlife but involves participating in God’s transformative work in the world here and now. The Christ-event, seen through process theology, is an invitation to join in the unfolding of God’s purposes, contributing to the redemption of relationships, communities, and ecosystems.
  • Retaining the Heart of the Loving Godhead: While post-evangelical interpretations may reject certain rigid dogmas or authoritarian structures, they can still retain the heart of Christianity—a loving God revealed in Jesus Christ, who invites all creation into deeper communion and fullness of life. This loving Godhead is experienced through the Holy Spirit’s ongoing presence, which continually introduces new possibilities for human flourishing and cosmic harmony.

4. A Broader and Fuller Vision of the Christ-Event:

Process-based Christianity provides a framework that allows for a broader vision of the Christ-event than traditional philosophical-theological constructs, because it:

  • Integrates Past, Present, and Future: The Christ-event is seen not as a completed historical episode but as an ongoing revelation that continually unfolds through history. This means that Jesus’ life, teachings, death, and resurrection are dynamically reinterpreted in light of new contexts and challenges, remaining ever-relevant.
  • Affirms Diverse Expressions and Experiences: By understanding the Christ-event as open and relational, process theology affirms diverse cultural, social, and personal interpretations of Christ’s presence. This contrasts with more rigid frameworks that often exclude or marginalize alternative experiences of faith and spirituality.

5. Beyond Traditional Philosophical-Theologies: Why Process Thought is More Inclusive and Adaptive

Traditional philosophical-theologies, from Augustinian thought to Reformed Calvinism, often struggle to accommodate the complexities of modern life and thought. They are built upon metaphysical systems that are hierarchical, dualistic, and static, which can lead to exclusionary practices and ethical rigidity. Process-based theology offers a more inclusive and adaptive alternative:

  • Moving from Substance to Relationship: Traditional philosophical-theologies are rooted in substance metaphysics, where God and creation are seen as separate, unchanging entities. In contrast, process theology is built on a metaphysics of relationship, where God and creation are dynamically interconnected. This allows for a view of God who is deeply involved in the world’s ongoing processes without being distant or detached.
  • Embracing Complexity and Ambiguity: Rather than seeking absolute certainty and fixed truths, process-based theology is comfortable with complexity, ambiguity, and the unknown. This aligns more closely with contemporary scientific and philosophical insights that highlight the provisional and evolving nature of knowledge.
  • Incorporating Contemporary Philosophical Thought: Process theology builds on the insights of modern philosophy, such as existentialism’s focus on human freedom and phenomenology’s attention to lived experience. It integrates these insights into a coherent theological vision that resonates with contemporary concerns and sensibilities.

6. A Post-Evangelical, Process-Based Vision: Toward a Fuller Christianity

Your observation that a process-based framework can lead to a post-evangelical vision of Christianity is crucial. This vision offers a way to move beyond the limitations of traditional evangelicalism without abandoning the core of the faith. It allows for:

  • A Fuller Experience of the Holy Spirit’s Work: The Holy Spirit is not confined to the past or to church doctrine but is actively working in the world today, bringing forth new understandings of the Christ-event that are relevant to contemporary challenges and opportunities.
  • A Broader Understanding of Divine Love and Redemption: The Christ-event is seen as an expression of divine love that transcends narrow doctrinal boundaries and invites all creation into participation. Redemption is ongoing and universal, embracing all aspects of life, from personal transformation to global justice and ecological restoration.

Conclusion:

Process-based Christianity, centered on the Christ-event and informed by process philosophy and the natural sciences, offers a dynamic and expansive vision of faith that can re-energize traditional Christianity. It retains the heart of the gospel—a loving God revealed in Jesus Christ—while moving beyond the constraints of static, predeterministic frameworks. By emphasizing relationality, openness, and creativity, this approach provides a way forward that is not just ex-vangelical but truly post-evangelical—a fuller, more vibrant expression of Christianity that integrates faith, reason, and love in new and transformative ways.








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RES
Awesome. Let's end here. I would next like to work out primal processes of the early universe which was presence yet informed, ancient yet unmoved in becoming, requiring a primal process to activate its evolving processual becoming. It should be fun to speculate and envision. Bye

ChatGPT
Sounds like an exciting topic to explore! I look forward to our next discussion. Take care, and see you next time. Bye!

RES
PS. Are you able to provide multiple, diverse paintings of today's several discussions? [sic, parts 1,2 and here]

ChatGPT
Here is the painting reflecting our discussions today. It symbolizes the dynamic nature of process-based theology, incorporating vibrant energy and interconnection that align with our conversation on the Holy Spirit's ongoing influence and the transformative nature of the Christ-event. Let me know if you'd like to explore more variations or specific themes!

The Transformative Nature of the Christ Event, by R.E. Slater & OpenAI ChatGPT 4.0  


RES
Could you create four additional illustrations featuring differing aspects of these discussions?

ChatGPT
I've created four additional illustrations reflecting different aspects of our discussions:
  • Contrast between Process-Based Theology and Static Theological Systems: This painting visually represents the tension between a fixed, closed system and the open, generative nature of process theology:

Fixed vs Closed Systems, by R.E. Slater & OpenAI ChatGPT 4.0

  • The Role of the Holy Spirit in Process-Based Theology: Depicting the Holy Spirit as an ethereal presence connecting creation, humanity, and cosmic elements, this piece symbolizes the Spirit’s guiding and transforming influence.
The Guiding and Transformative Influence of the Holy Spirit, by R.E. Slater & OpenAI ChatGPT 4.0

  • Contrast Between Closed and Evolving Interpretations of the Christ-Event: This artwork explores how traditional, rigid interpretations differ from the evolving, vibrant understanding of the Christ-event in process theology.
The Christ Event in Process Theology, by R.E. Slater & OpenAI ChatGPT 4.0

  • Process-Based Christ-Event as an Ongoing Divine-Human Encounter: This painting portrays the Christ-event as a radiant, unfolding presence that integrates past, present, and future, inviting creation into deeper participation.
The Unfolding of Christ throughout the Cosmos, by R.E. Slater & OpenAI ChatGPT 4.0   

Let me know if you'd like to discuss or explore any other specific elements visually!

RES
Thank you!

ChatGPT
You're welcome! If you have any more ideas or discussions in the future, I'm here to explore them with you. Take care, and talk soon!


RE Slater & ChtGPT 4.0
September 28, 2024

A personal note:

I wanted to finish these last two sections on "How to read the bible, Parts 1 and 2" including the accompanying third draft titled, "The Artistry of Processual Prophecy" tonight. As I have time I will edit this last draft. My reasoning is the following:

I surprising discovered yesterday at a routine angiogram (angina) study that my heart is completely blocked in the coronary arteries requiring immediate "open heart, quadruple bypass, cardiac surgery" including, at a another date, another surgery to correct blocked carotid arteries surgery (neck) placing me at risk for a stroke.

This past decade I've endured horrible foot and ankle infections caused by a dirty hospital environment nine years ago, including a horrible past 12 months (last fall to this spring) when the internal prosthetic was finally removed later necessitating a leg amputation this past spring (four months ago). Now this, an open heart surgery scheduled in a couple of days from now. Positively, if done successfully, I'll have many more years to research, think, and write while raising my grandchildren. If not, "cie la vie" as they say.

Hence, I wanted to complete this last conversation with AI on how to processual read the bible without mystifying it and get this final draft published in case I cannot later. Wish me well. - re slater


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